florduh
Well-Known Member
@Abele Rizieri Ferrari I gotta tell you, as an American, the idea that civilians can be held responsible and killed due to the actions of their government makes me very uncomfortable.
The Bush régime murdered upwards of a million people during his illegal invasion of Iraq. By President Herzog's logic it would be fair game for any military force sympathetic to Iraq to murder me and my family. Because we didn't overthrow the Bush régime.
I mean, the American Government murdered about 3.5 million people in Vietnam. My government has committed many acts of terror. Sorry, but I don't care for the implication that every civilian living in a country with a shitty government can be murdered with impunity. Collective punishment is a war crime.
Only from a certain point of view. We were conducting siege warfare against the people of Iraq, starving them out with sanctions all through the 90's. When we weren't directly doing airstrikes. And during the first Gulf War our airstrikes targeted civilian infrastructure.
There was also Bill Clinton's attack on the same day Monica Lewinsky was due to testify:
jacobin.com
Of course, I think it's absurd for Bin Laden to hold civilians in New York responsible for these acts. I also think it's absurd to do the same in Gaza; an area where there hasn't been an election since 2006 and 47% of the population is under the age of 14.
The Bush régime murdered upwards of a million people during his illegal invasion of Iraq. By President Herzog's logic it would be fair game for any military force sympathetic to Iraq to murder me and my family. Because we didn't overthrow the Bush régime.
I mean, the American Government murdered about 3.5 million people in Vietnam. My government has committed many acts of terror. Sorry, but I don't care for the implication that every civilian living in a country with a shitty government can be murdered with impunity. Collective punishment is a war crime.
Only from a certain point of view. We were conducting siege warfare against the people of Iraq, starving them out with sanctions all through the 90's. When we weren't directly doing airstrikes. And during the first Gulf War our airstrikes targeted civilian infrastructure.
There was also Bill Clinton's attack on the same day Monica Lewinsky was due to testify:
Bill Clinton’s Act of Terrorism
In 1998, Bill Clinton ordered the bombing of a medicine factory in Sudan. The country has yet to recover.
Of course, I think it's absurd for Bin Laden to hold civilians in New York responsible for these acts. I also think it's absurd to do the same in Gaza; an area where there hasn't been an election since 2006 and 47% of the population is under the age of 14.
