Camouflet Convector

Custom Flower Hardware

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You are incorrect with the wand. You can't heat just the 1/4 top of the cap with an ih. You start seeing vapor produced before you get to 14 blinks Via conductive heat. The new spin is the air comes straight through the cap to the load which is a straight blast through the ceramic which tastes good don't get me wrong but let's stop saying convection only device, its just wrong.
 
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Is your abv coming out even?
Yes it does but take several cycles to get fully extracted. Especially if you like a darker roast.
You are incorrect with the wand. You can't heat just the 1/4 top of the cap with an ih. You start seeing vapor produced before you get to 14 blinks Via conductive heat. The new spin is the air comes straight through the cap to the load which is a straight blast through the ceramic which tastes good don't get me wrong but let's stop saying convection only device, its just wrong.
i dont think so as its functioning as described. As soon as the activation light turns on you are deep enough. It was also mentioned that the device is best heated upright. this keeps the heat in the tip till you draw. This is a little odd and does take inverting the wand over the cap while holding the device upright. (Insert cap on button/screen side of wand then flip)And yes you can see some vapor escaping but this is also true w dynavaps. I been using that as indicator that im close to temp. Are you using a wand or another heater? The activation on your device may be deeper.
I also came in expecting thick dense hits. This device isnt that. This device is best suited to a flavor chaser who enjoys a session vape w a bit of a routine. I think thats what im enjoying most. Its a little more involved but its kinda nice to fine tune a hit
 
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Custom Flower Hardware

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I used the wand. You just made my point for me by saying you see vapor escaping when heating. Also if lts true of being able to heat the top quarter of the cap only, not the load part at the same time, then the cap itself should be able ro be ihd by the wand no? Try it maybe I'm wrong but the cap can't activate the wand
by itself, it needs the loads metal also. Conductvective correct?
 
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Xclerk

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Im not saying there's no conduction. But as soon as you draw the heat is very quickly taken from the cap a diffused through the bowl. Maybe my wand activates slightly higher. Im trying to upload a pic now of how deep i hold mine to activate. Please don't take my response as me being defensive. Its hard to tell cadence from text. I just love new devices. Don't get me wrong there's lots of room for improvement on the device and i see both sides. not sure if the expensive ceramic inserts were needed on a device just entering the market and probably could have been submitted to keep the price down for early adopters. I do think the cap needs a touch more height to separate the bowl further and maybe a touch more mass for slightly longer hits between heat ups. I think the inserts need work but honestly leave the stem making to the existing makers and keep developing this tip. there's potential here. it has no place in line w the Anvil, thermal extractor, fmj/armorcap. I think a new line forms here.

Another easy way to tell is to heat the device, then blow out through it instead of inhaling. If vapor comes out then it's being heated via conduction.
I just tried this. Just a tiny wisp initally. Again not saying no conduction. There will always be some.
 
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Custom Flower Hardware

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It rips. Sorry for my rashness brother. What they should do is make the cap longer by a few mm. It is more of a convection hit because the holes are in front of the load. Im sure that we'll see variations from other companies now that they see the results of top cap holes. The TA was first, then, the rest. I would not pay 149 for this though. Doesn't warrant that price but hey, my opinion is my opinion.
 

Xclerk

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It rips. Sorry for my rashness brother. What they should do is make the cap longer by a few mm. It is more of a convection hit because the holes are in front of the load. Im sure that we'll see variations from other companies now that they see the results of top cap holes. The TA was first, then, the rest. I would not pay 149 for this though. Doesn't warrant that price by hey, my opinion is my opinion.
i totally agree. Longer would def be better. Great vid. My wand def activates a little shallower. @Camouflet gotta get to work lengthening the cap and on some inserts for the wand too. theres definitely room for refinements And changes but it has promise.
 
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Xclerk

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I like it now. You can get a Supreme type hit outta that tip but there is a fine line to the technique. It's gonna be cool to see all the fcers modding this. The PhattPiggie stem is a real killer with the tip.

I just ran mine through some water too. I dig. That piggie stem is one of my favorites hes done
 

Camouflet

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Just got one with the single hole ceramic. I’ll see what I can report back after it arrives. Curious to set it up on my Orb V2 and get my torch level just right. @Camouflet i have several induction heaters, namely those @Pipes offers and I’m wondering if the activation switch which sits at the bottom of the IH chamber is an issue as compared to using an Ispire. I know I would need to invert the IH if the device is situated atop my water piece but is this a process that will lead to the more conduction heavy hits and/or will it be difficult to avoid combustion with a switch device that relies on pressure on the device cap after being inserted. If it is an issue, no worries. Just trying to avoid combusting and the dreaded cleaning that follows… Thanks in advance!
The Convector should engage with all induction heaters. But not all induction heaters behave the same. The coil depth will vary from IH to IH, so a glass spacer may be helpful in some cases. The Pipes IHs work well as is but they have quite a deep coil which will heat more of the chamber/bowl area = more conduction. Activating the switch shouldn’t be an issue. From our findings with Pipes Portside Mini line, Max heating times with the Convector is apprx 6-7 seconds. For best results, it’s recommended to heat the Convector right-side up with the cap facing up and induction heater upside down, or horizontally. We’d recommend heating the Convector first and then inserting it into the glass piece of your choice as @ShayWhiteGrow demonstrates in his videos above. You can heat the Convector when it's resting in a glass joint but it will require more attention (mainly not tipping or breaking the glass), some may prefer this method.

The build on this thing is eh. The Machining on the tube is not a polished product. The inner tube has bore marks. The metal is cheap, only way to put it. Then the screens? Cmon mannnn?? The same screen as the mv1, gh, and angus. Lil pos solid metal screen that has micro holes, not talking about the cap where the heat is stored, just the regular screen. Constant clog screens, CCS, is what I call them. So now I'm gonna put it together and test run it. But no way I would pay any more then a dyna M. $50 maybe, $149??? Out your minds, way off the quality of an omni for the same price! The dyna is so much of a polished and clean metal look and feel to it compared to this thing. I assume it'll work, but again the metal is thin so the ih will conduct heat though it unless you use the magic spot on the upside down wand? I might just ih the cap and plug the unit onto the cap. Might be a Lil dangerous seeing the cap is small and light so well see, I'll wear my goggles and report back. The guy the said the market is too crowded now? He's right for this unit. I'll report back with the usage details. I'm keeping and open mind, maybe it'll work, maybe not, but I for sure punched an extra TA screen I had to fit and replace the hot death metal gh screen to get real airflow.
We appreciate your constructive criticism, can’t have the good without the bad. We would like to improve material finishes and address any concerns. For our launch strategy we wanted to take a different approach. No pre-sales, no waiting, lightning fast shipping and quick turn around time re-future product adjustments. We always recommend trying the Convector (and any other device for that matter) before sharing initial thoughts and feedback.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the Convector pricing. @Farid ’s earlier post re launch pricing hit the nail on the head. We’ve taken an ultra conservative approach allowing for adjustments as we grow and progress. One of our main goals is to offer the best performing products in the space at the best pricing possible. With growth, Camouflet’s pricing will improve.
Edit: guess what? For what you charge the unit needs to come fully assembled not this way you send it without instructions. Plus from what it looks like I hope these orings are high temp because the one closest to the cap is gonna get a nice ih cooking every time.
We will take this into consideration moving forward. Our thought process was that members would want to clean the Convector components once received (disassembled in ISO bath). Also, with the multiple ceramic tube SKU options, it eases some of the burden of shipping and fulfillment logistics sending the various packages without the tube assembled in the stem. We’re open to suggestions and willing to update final assembly packaging. Yes, the o-rings are high temp resistant Viton FKM.
Edit: can't heat the cap alone not enough metal mass for the ih to recognize. That said, the cap gets put on snug like a dyna. It heats exactly like a dyna, no way around it. Conduction, convection mix. The screens in the cap most likely make up the mass of the dyna clicker. Then the tip comes off when you pull the cap off, not ideal.
Yes, the cap alone will engage and activate the wand coil on a slight angle. This will allow for the shallowest insertion depth possible. If the chamber is disconnecting from the stem when removing the cap, this would indicate that the cap has been pressed on too tight. The cap only needs to be pressed on gently to connect and seal on the chamber with the cap fins.

I guess I should have waited....
You made a wise decision, Camouflet will always keep first adopters who've shown us support, blindly albeit, highly regarded as VIP.

Ok first impressions are different than what i expected but not necessarily bad. It took bowl to figure out the heating. But heating on the wand is exactly as described. 14 pulses for the first hit. You get a terpy light hit. On the second 9 second heat up youll feel the draw restriction change as the vapor thickens up. When heating w the wand, i did notice that it should only be inserted as deep as it needs to activate. The entire cap need not be heated. Just around the first 1/4 inch or so. Any more and you begin to heat the bud itself and im not sure thats the intended purpose. I should also mention the tip does not hold heat long and will really only generate one draw. so its more a heat then hit then repeat device. The heat up and cool down are very fast. I do think the tip could use a little more mass and maybe taller and a few more rows of disk. Also as others stated the ceramic inserts and o rings need work on the design. The o rings should have a groove to keep them situated and the orings may need to be resized. Overall feel lIke the name is dead on. When used as described you get a very nice convection hit and its pretty tasty. I will say it will take several hits and heats to clear a bowl. As there is very very little conduction. I went in expecting supreme/ anvil and to honest that was a unfair expectation especially w its name. This device wont give you one hit extractions or dense hits. But it does do what it states. I should also mention i didnt want to darken my cap so i havent tested a torch yet. Id imagine a small amaoi torch or similar is plenty. i can see device having a place in the market. I really think the comparisons are taking away from the beauty of this device
Great feedback on your first impressions. Perfect description of how to heat the Convector with the wand. Try tilting the Convector/cap position on a slight angle when inserted into the wand for heating. Input re ceramic tubes and o-ring noted, we will work on improvements.
 
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Camouflet

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You are incorrect with the wand. You can't heat just the 1/4 top of the cap with an ih. You start seeing vapor produced before you get to 14 blinks Via conductive heat. The new spin is the air comes straight through the cap to the load which is a straight blast through the ceramic which tastes good don't get me wrong but let's stop saying convection only device, its just wrong.
The Convector is best described as convection focused. Conduction can be brought down to a minimum with the right heating and chamber filling techniques. The wisps of vapor seen when heating are produced from herb material touching the walls of the chamber. These temps are not getting hot enough to cause full conduction and will not bake the load throughout. Anything in the induction field will be heated. The cap will develop small residual buildup after repeated use and this will also contribute to the light visible wisps when heating.

The Convector delivers a unique delicious convection focused vapor signature that enthusiasts & collectors alike will enjoy.

I will say of using the wand. Do not insert deeper than it takes to activate. Maybe an insert would help. The photo of the insert @DeezVaprz showed perfectly the amount of the tip that should be heated.
i totally agree. Longer would def be better. Great vid. My wand def activates a little shallower. @Camouflet gotta get to work lengthening the cap and on some inserts for the wand too. theres definitely room for refinements And changes but it has promise.
We’ve tested the wand glass inserts and they work but they're not optimal. Using the glass insert does not allow the Convector to be inserted on an angle, this forces the Convector to be placed deeper into the coil which will heat the chamber area. The closed-end glass insert option for the wand works best but it affects flavor. The inserts do allow for hands free operation which is a nice feature. We can add the glass insert SKU to the Camouflet website.

We have a couple different cap designs in the works. R&D led us to the current cap design and measurements for best all around performance suitable for initial product launch.

I like it now. You can get a Supreme type hit outta that tip but there is a fine line to the technique. It's gonna be cool to see all the fcers modding this.
That’s great, this quick turn around on sentiments towards the Convector after trying the device is very encouraging and shows us that the Convector performance speaks for itself. Yes, it will be fun for collectors to mix and match components optimizing their preferences. We’re stoked to see all the configurations that members come up with!

Tips:

- IMPORTANT! Wand IH - The Convector cap will engage the coil/heat when inserted on a slight angle. You can test this out and familiarize yourself with heating techniques by placing the cap on a toothpick and tilting the wand until you find the right angle. This will allow for the shallowest insertion depth possible, heating just the tip of the cap where the heating plates are located. We want to engage the wand and other IHs with the cap, not the chamber.
-Induction heaters work best when fully charged.
-To avoid any potential charring, load chamber ⅔ or ¾ full, leaving a bit of headroom. Apply slightly longer heating times.
-Pairing with glass: Stand alone stem without inner tube works best for max airflow, still works well with tubes inserted.

It’s an honor to be compared to such highly regarded devices, but we’d like to keep this thread Convector focused. Now that more members have received their Convector, we welcome and encourage starting a separate device comparison thread.
 

yeswecann

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The Convector should engage with all induction heaters. But not all induction heaters behave the same. The coil depth will vary from IH to IH, so a glass spacer may be helpful in some cases. The Pipes IHs work well as is but they have quite a deep coil which will heat more of the chamber/bowl area = more conduction. Activating the switch shouldn’t be an issue. From our findings with Pipes Portside Mini line, Max heating times with the Convector is apprx 6-7 seconds. For best results, it’s recommended to heat the Convector right-side up with the cap facing up and induction heater upside down, or horizontally. We’d recommend heating the Convector first and then inserting it into the glass piece of your choice as @ShayWhiteGrow demonstrates in his videos above. You can heat the Convector when it's resting in a glass joint but it will require more attention (mainly not tipping or breaking the glass), some may prefer this method.


We appreciate your constructive criticism, can’t have the good without the bad. We would like to improve material finishes and address any concerns. For our launch strategy we wanted to take a different approach. No pre-sales, no waiting, lightning fast shipping and quick turn around time re-future product adjustments. We always recommend trying the Convector (and any other device for that matter) before sharing initial thoughts and feedback.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the Convector pricing. @Farid ’s earlier post re launch pricing hit the nail on the head. We’ve taken an ultra conservative approach allowing for adjustments as we grow and progress. One of our main goals is to offer the best performing products in the space at the best pricing possible. With growth, Camouflet’s pricing will improve.

We will take this into consideration moving forward. Our thought process was that members would want to clean the Convector components once received (disassembled in ISO bath). Also, with the multiple ceramic tube SKU options, it eases some of the burden of shipping and fulfillment logistics sending the various packages without the tube assembled in the stem. We’re open to suggestions and willing to update final assembly packaging. Yes, the o-rings are high temp resistant Viton FKM.

Yes, the cap alone will engage and activate the wand coil on a slight angle. This will allow for the shallowest insertion depth possible. If the chamber is disconnecting from the stem when removing the cap, this would indicate that the cap has been pressed on too tight. The cap only needs to be pressed on gently to connect and seal on the chamber with the cap fins.


You made a wise decision, Camouflet will always keep first adopters who've shown us support, blindly albeit, highly regarded as VIP.


Great feedback on your first impressions. Perfect description of how to heat the Convector with the wand. Try tilting the Convector/cap position on a slight angle when inserted into the wand for heating. Input re ceramic tubes and o-ring noted, we will work on improvements.
  1. How's the airflow compared to Dynavap (full covered carb)?
  2. Why is the Tip+Cap the same price as the metal stem full version
  3. Is there a compatible WPA?
 
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Any movement on the postage price? $50.00 AUD to get something this small when sent with USPS is pretty insane.
 
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Perfect_Speed4069

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Lightning fast shippping
Best of luck with the launch, but please be careful about overclaiming at this stage. I placed an (international) order on the evening of 17th and according to tracking, the package hasn't been dispatched by the morning of 21st. You're allowed to have a weekend, and I don't expect miracles, but lightning fast is not the phrase I'd choose.
 

tinctorus

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The Convector is a similar “one-hitter” style, battery-free device, but it sets itself apart with its unique features:
  • Convection-focused heater with unmatched heating and cool-down times
  • Wide open airflow
  • Ceramic airpath, great for cooling and flavor
Ultimately, we’re going to be partial towards our device, so the comparisons are best left to members of the community to report.

Chamber/Bowl size measurements:
Chamber Inner Diameter: 9.2mm
Chamber Depth: 11mm
Chamber Volume: 731 cubic mm

Chamber holds apprx. 0.1 - 0.2g, *Loosely fill the chamber with no tamping to allow convection to work best.

Pictured below is ABV after 3x draws with the wand induction heater, weighing 0.1g post extraction. Cold start, first draw was heated for 14x yellow light blinks in the wand. Second draw was heated for 9x blinks, and third draw was heated for 9x blinks.

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By design, the Convector is a non-heat-regulated device, heating methods, and duration are up to the user. Our convection design allows for a wide range of heating profiles to be applied with good results. We do plan to introduce some of our own guidance but also would like to see what the community comes up with.
The heating plate material was selected for its efficiency with induction heating. One of our main goals was to keep the cap thermal mass to a minimum, allowing for lightning-fast heat-up times. There is the potential to use Titanium in parts of the device, we hope to do so in the future!

Adding additional mass to the cap would alter the heating profile, straying away from convection delivery. We have future cap designs in the works that may encompass a larger mass for more thermal retention and a different delivery profile.

We find all the convector components are easily cleaned with an ISO soak, followed by a hot water bath.



Yes, we agree, we need to get some usage content into the wild! We will have some of our own content posted soon and hopefully, some early adopters will provide 3rd party content for us all to enjoy. Thanks for the encouragement and guidance on what you want to see from us.
I just ordered one to try out, the stem looked interesting to me, those are ceramic thermocouple protection tubes your using for the cooling tube right?

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seriousTone

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Best of luck with the launch, but please be careful about overclaiming at this stage. I placed an (international) order on the evening of 17th and according to tracking, the package hasn't been dispatched by the morning of 21st. You're allowed to have a weekend, and I don't expect miracles, but lightning fast is not the phrase I'd choose.
Monday was a holiday here is usa.
 

Camouflet

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@Camouflet, very informative write ups - I'm excitedly receiving my convector tomorrow and am just wondering:

Can you heat with a torch the top flat face of the tip (with the airflow holes in it) directly or is it more advisable to heat around the top most edge as you did in your video?
We haven't tried this heating method yet but it should work in theory. Please be cautious of placing the flame too close to the cap and don't inhale while heating. Inhaling while heating the top of the cap will most likely scorch the load and behave like a regular combustion pipe. We know it's debatable, but we are cautious of advising this method due to the potential of residual butane. We will test out this method today and report back, we look forward to hearing your results as well.

  1. How's the airflow compared to Dynavap (full covered carb)?
  2. Why is the Tip+Cap the same price as the metal stem full version
  3. Is there a compatible WPA?
1.The Convector offers an open airflow experience, more restriction is implemented with the addition of the ceramic tubes/mass in the air path.
2.We're not exactly sure what you're referring to, on the Camouflet website the Convector options should be the following:
$149.00 USD Convector Kit with Single Bore Ceramic Tube
$159.00 USD Convector Kit with Quad Bore Ceramic Tube
$179.00 USD Convector Kit with Both Ceramic Tubes
Don't forget the "EarlyAccess" 40% off discount code.
Accessory SKUs are listed on their own page. Please message us if you need more assistance with selecting items for your order.
3.The Convector Stem has a 10mm male native tapper on the mouthpiece end. Compatible with 10mm female joints and we have additional accessories in the works.

Any movement on the postage price? $50.00 AUD to get something this small when sent with USPS is pretty insane.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Hmm, this does seem much higher than it should be. There should be multiple International shipping options provided at checkout, we'll look into this asap and msg you to figure out logistics.

Best of luck with the launch, but please be careful about overclaiming at this stage. I placed an (international) order on the evening of 17th and according to tracking, the package hasn't been dispatched by the morning of 21st. You're allowed to have a weekend, and I don't expect miracles, but lightning fast is not the phrase I'd choose.
Thanks! We agree, we're always of the mindset to "under promise and over-deliver". To clarify, we should've stated "domestic" lightning fast shipping times, apologies for any misunderstanding. All orders (domestic & international) will ship out within 24-48hrs, orders placed on Fridays will go out the following Monday, unless there's a holiday. Yesterday, Monday Feb 21st, was a holiday in the US. Couriers usually pick up our "ready to ship" orders from the warehouse between 10am-1pm EST. Please see our shipping policy page for more details, we will update this info as needed.

I just ordered one to try out, the stem looked interesting to me, those are ceramic thermocouple protection tubes your using for the cooling tube right?

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That's great! Thanks to you and everyone else who's placed an order to date, we're thankful for all the support thus far.

Our ceramic tubes are custom made for the Convector and produced in the USA. High purity ceramic with high thermal conductivity to absorb heat and cool down vapor.

This small detail just shows that these fellows are a part of the community!
Thanks for the kind words, we do our best to be as forward thinking as possible, but we're not perfect. We respect the community and we're eternally grateful to be able to contribute meaningful products and experiences.

"Details make perfection, and perfection is not a detail."
 
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Don’t attack products or companies. You can post your opinion, and you can criticize, but posts written to offend are not allowed. Warning point issued.
You made a wise decision, Camouflet will always keep first adopters who've shown us support, blindly albeit, highly regarded as VIP.
WTF is the VIP, and who gives a f@ck about this shitty vip status from another dynavap copycat. Enough with VIPs and business class status vapers
 

Perfect_Speed4069

I am the beetle in a box that only you can see
Monday was a holiday here is usa.
Right oh. In the UK/China it's common to have banners at checkout reminding people of upcoming public holidays and impact on shipping (they even appear on illicit DW dispensary sites). Thanks for the explanation. It was eventually picked up by USPS at 1256 on Tuesday.
 
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seriousTone

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Yikes sorry about the long post, but as this is new!

I was very exciting as I awaited the delivery of the convector today. Admittedly, the half week after ordering I had a time or two where I almost regretted my purchase - but I do that with a lot of things.

My first thoughts from opening the package; every piece was in a nice separate little bag, nicely packaged, each ceramic tube with its own set of o rings. I didn't mind everything separated because I washed it all in iso.

Bamboo case is a nice little touch and the convector fits very nicely inside and the lid pushes on with perfect friction. I will most likely use the convector in my dynastash though because I have it and it's just more convenient to have the herb right there.

I love the fact that the airpath is ceramic over steel; I love the feel and look of these tubes, especially the quad bore. To hear that they're made in the US is a nice bonus.

The o rings were toughest to get on the tube, but after a few times I'm sure they loosen up a bit - I didn't think it was that difficult to get the tube with o rings into the stem.

The fit between the stem and tip and then the cap are all really nice and smooth.

There is a big difference in feel between both airpaths, the single feels wide open and the quad feels as tight as a dynavap with half the carb blocked - this is how I usually hit my dynavap so this is nice to not have to worry about anymore.


Unlike in my video, I put one o ring about a quarter of the way down on one side of the ceramic tube - then stick the bare side of the ceramic tube through the stem from the tip end. Once it's in, I took something and pushed the ceramic tube that is inside the stem down until some of it was sticking out of the mouthpiece end. That's when I slide the second o ring on, then push it back up into the stem so the o ring sits flush inside the mouthpiece.


This (rough and quickly made!) video was my very first initial using of the convector, I went with the quad bore and already think it'll be my go to. All impressions are from this single use so far.

I only filmed the first few hits because I was having trouble keeping my eye on whether it was in focus, where the flame was and not burning my fingers - which is what kept happening. The first couple of hits were tasty but no vapor, the third hit at 12s pre-heat was where I got a perfect satisfying hit - not too thick nor thin.

I used this thing like I do my grasshopper, temp stepped up with progressively longer pre-heats but it is not necessary to heat
the thing twice for the same amount of time, I don't think.

I took a total of 9 hits from .8 grams of material and counted how many seconds I flamed the tip.

4s and 7s - tasty no vapor
11s, 12s, 12s - perfect not too thick or thin hits
13s - nothing really.
15s - nothing
18s a decent hit.

This is where I dumped the load in the video. It was not even but I'm positive it was just my technique; most of the hits I was not holding the flame in the right position.

I think a .1 gram load can be comfortably (for me) cleared in 3-4 hits.

I put the herb back in and took a last hit to try and even things out and heated the tip for 25s...I had turned the flame up to account for
low butane levels but it was a bad idea as I combusted.

Overall I'm super pumped with this device after the very first use even. If you absolutely have to have a click then unfortunately this isn't for you. You're going to have to keep count when heating with a torch until you don't have to keep count anymore I guess ha.
 

Zuhdj

Charles Mingus
Got mine today! I've done probably 8 bowls so far with a Firefox torch. This is truly the way to go. I've had the tip of the innner bright blue flame aimed at the top of the top of the vape. So half the flame is going over the intake area. It heats in under 10 second. I use the color of the flame to judge the temp. It'll change from blue to orange to yellow. Once it's totally yellow it's nearing or at combustion temps so I stop once the flame is a bright orange that's almost yellow and get a really nice tasty fairly dark roast by the time there's no more vapor. It's a fine line but I did do a single one hit extraction with some cbd.

It's well made. I couldn't figure out how to get the o-rings into the tube, onto the tube was the easy part. They seemed like half a mm too wide on the od. I just raw dogged it no ceramic and it was legendary. Not something I'd call wide open as I think the anvil and the balls beat it, but it's certainly more open than a dyna on my stem. The flavor of that first hit was freaking delectable with no vapor then it was followed by a couple more satisfying lol hits. It's very satisfying to use. It's very nice vapor. I like the build. I like the idea

I have a couple ideas to say/mirror from y'all.

Mesh screens
Inter tube orings
Probably double the amount of things in the cap
Have some space between the top layer of holes and the air intakes
 
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