Cheap High Quality Bubbler

[Madtater]

I won't be hypocritical about this. I use and enjoy knock off gear, bought from far away, where minimum wage and IP are as irrelevant as non-Communist political parties and freedom of expression.

My first piece of glass was a Mobius clone which cost me £32 inc shipping. The original was upwards of $400. I'm really pleased I bought it.

My next was a cheap alternative to a VapeXhale hydratube, bought after VapeXhale went bust. But I couldn't have afforded one of those, either, plus they didn't sell them in the UK.

Same goes for the Grav clone I got recently that's also not sold in the UK.

Handing over manufacturing details to outfits operating in places where labour costs are less and IP policed less vigorously is a risk, in particular one which has a website/shop.

Perhaps they nicked the design outright. I don't know. Whatever has happened, I'm sorry someone nice has been ripped off.

But I'm also part of the problem, because I don't know how much it'd cost to buy an OG of this, and I have now found an affordable of example of glass I'd not seen before.

My bad, no-one else's

Honestly, with the way the world economy is going, i dont think many people will opt to spend the extra cheddar for authentic gear when they can get a copy for a fraction of the price.

Of course there are people out there that will spend the extra money, but most people like the look and function and do not care about authenticity.

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for so much less in the end?

Dont get me wrong, i would love to get authentic to support the artists, but i just cannot afford it. In today’s time, though, that doesn’t mean i cannot partake in the beauty because there are people who copy out there.

Being copied is the best form of flattery….so they say.

 

[Abele Rizieri Ferrari]

non-Communist

Inaccurate

CCP is only communist in name.

I don't care about or believe in intellectual property or any form of property myself (it is an illusion), but CC is bringing unique pieces. This is a failed attempt by a huge company at copying from a small startup with original shit, resulting in a shoddy ripoff that is an overpriced waste of money imo. It's embarrassing.

 

[iDRINKBLEACH]

Inaccurate

CCP is only communist in name.

I don't care about or believe in intellectual property or any form of property myself (it is an illusion), but CC is bringing unique pieces. This is a failed attempt by a huge company at copying from a small startup with original shit, resulting in a shoddy ripoff that is an overpriced waste of money imo. It's embarrassing.

Thank you bro Yeah I am a small grass roots business/brand. Getting copied by a big company like @Samlglass is like him inviting himself over to dinner to eat off my families plates. Pretty lame.

 

[Shit Snacks]

I won't be hypocritical about this. I use and enjoy knock off gear, bought from far away, where minimum wage and IP are as irrelevant as non-Communist political parties and freedom of expression.

My first piece of glass was a Mobius clone which cost me £32 inc shipping. The original was upwards of $400. I'm really pleased I bought it.

My next was a cheap alternative to a VapeXhale hydratube, bought after VapeXhale went bust. But I couldn't have afforded one of those, either, plus they didn't sell them in the UK.

Same goes for the Grav clone I got recently that's also not sold in the UK.

Handing over manufacturing details to outfits operating in places where labour costs are less and IP policed less vigorously is a risk, in particular one which has a website/shop.

Perhaps they nicked the design outright. I don't know. Whatever has happened, I'm sorry someone nice has been ripped off.

But I'm also part of the problem, because I don't know how much it'd cost to buy an OG of this, and I have now found an affordable of example of glass I'd not seen before.

My bad, no-one else's

Yeah as said above, it's not exactly apples to apples, when you're talking about Mobius US glass that is cloned in China, or vapexhale glass which ultimately was all made in China anyway, similar to the GRAV (we don't know if that is the same factory they got theirs from to resell in the US though it certainly seems like it?) Anyway yes in this case they directly copied the design from a member here, who has become a manufacturer, in fact they were even approached to partner on pieces in the past, so it's especially disgusting for them to just poorly attempt a direct copy of what was made by someone else without even asking or anything...

Honestly, with the way the world economy is going, i dont think many people will opt to spend the extra cheddar for authentic gear when they can get a copy for a fraction of the price.

Of course there are people out there that will spend the extra money, but most people like the look and function and do not care about authenticity.

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for so much less in the end?

Dont get me wrong, i would love to get authentic to support the artists, but i just cannot afford it. In today’s time, though, that doesn’t mean i cannot partake in the beauty because there are people who copy out there.

Being copied is the best form of flattery….so they say.

Yeah, we are in the cheap glass thread, of course most of us agree with getting cheap China glass even if it is a clone of or attempted copy or even inspired by something designed by a US artist... However that is not the case in this situation, cloud connoisseur glass is not high level US heady glass or whatever, it is already very reasonably priced, so again not apples to apples, not exactly a form of flattery, just an embarrassing attempt at lazy design, because they literally came here to ask us what we like and what we are looking for, I messaged with them directly on Reddit, then they just ignore and copy the work being sold by another member... They were even called out previously, then said they would not make it anymore, and yet here they are releasing it after all

 

[Abele Rizieri Ferrari]

@Samlglass is also cloning the modular TAG vape water piece lol, they said so in that Reddit thread

 

[Shit Snacks]

@Samlglass is also cloning the modular TAG vape water piece lol, loser said so in that Reddit thread

Haha I may have told them that I liked it better than their UFO but pretty sure I said to use it as inspiration not direct copy but shouldn't be surprised I think they were already doing it too have to check message

 

[FlyingLow]

I was thinking of sending a message pointing to the one I want and asking for the widest gap version they can find to maybe fit,

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I went through similar angst when trying to accommodate for both Ion Matrix and Atom v2... Eventually, I got rid of those pieces and cycled out of all dewar joints. I REALLY thought I would miss my Matrix, but I truly do not miss it at all!

Today, ALL my dropdowns and adapters are all in a box collecting dust, and I could not be happier about not needing them and never having to clean them again. For me, they just created more work for me (cleaning), and many had such shitty joints that they were not air-tight; for lack of better words, the shitty joints would diminish the thickness of the milkshake I was trying to drink.

Dropdowns and adapters provided me convenience and modularity to use glass that could not otherwise fit a banger or vape. Once I found setups that did not require all the bits and pieces to manage and clean, I never looked back.

...I also hated being in that position where I had to order 2-3 of the same dropdown, hoping that one would be a good fit. I seemed to throw a lot of time and a little bit of money at adapters/drops that could have been directed elsewhere.

 

[Grass Yes]

Dropdowns and adapters provided me convenience and modularity to use glass that could not otherwise fit a banger or vape. Once I found setups that did not require all the bits and pieces to manage and clean, I never looked back.

...I also hated being in that position where I had to order 2-3 of the same dropdown, hoping that one would be a good fit. I seemed to throw a lot of time and a little bit of money at adapters/drops that could have been directed elsewhere.

I love my drop-downs just because different vapes are more comfortable at different heights for me. But I only have a couple and I got mine from Oregon Glass Blower. A lot more than typically spent here but they are perfect.

But I can see how your set up would be ideal. No adapters at all to manage.

 

[Perfect_Speed4069]

What might be the drawbacks to a piece like this? assuming all the joints are nice and tight, and the perc slits fire evenly?

 

[Abele Rizieri Ferrari]

What might be the drawbacks to a piece like this? assuming all the joints are nice and tight, and the perc slits fire evenly?

The spiral shape doesn't make it better but it does make cleaning it a lot worse.

 

[GratefulDread]

Has anyone tried drilling a hole through the glass screen in one of these bowls? I'd rather just use a metal screen.
I have a drill press and a glass cutting bit. Just not sure if the whole thing will break right away.

 

[Grass Yes]

Has anyone tried drilling a hole through the glass screen in one of these bowls? I'd rather just use a metal screen.
I have a drill press and a glass cutting bit. Just not sure if the whole thing will break right away.

I haven't cut mine but I find it works fine with a SS or Ti screen on top of the honeycomb.

 

[Shit Snacks]

What might be the drawbacks to a piece like this? assuming all the joints are nice and tight, and the perc slits fire evenly?

Yes that long spiral pathway is going to be tough to clean and will require a much longer draw, with minimal extra cooling effect (although it is extra dry pathway) perc is it basic little circ perc and it has a decent bent neck mouthpiece so otherwise solid functional piece...

Has anyone tried drilling a hole through the glass screen in one of these bowls? I'd rather just use a metal screen.
I have a drill press and a glass cutting bit. Just not sure if the whole thing will break right away.

Why wouldn't you just buy another one that doesn't have the glass honeycomb screen, you can get different injector bowls that take flat screen or basket screen, but you could also just put a screen on top of the honeycomb... I would presume trying to drill it out would break the entire thing?

 

[RustyOldNail]

have a drill press and a glass cutting bit. Just not sure if the whole thing will break right away.

My bet…. It will break on the very last hole you drill… Swiss cheese .

But if you have a backup, give it a try. Of course you will get more particles in your water rig, with larger holes. I just put a titanium screen over the glass holes.

 

[LesPlenty]

Today, ALL my dropdowns and adapters are all in a box collecting dust

I use them even more now with my baller to help catch scoobies.
Samiglass must have listened as the CC knock off is no longer available.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Haha I may have told them that I liked it better than their UFO but pretty sure I said to use it as inspiration not direct copy but shouldn't be surprised I think they were already doing it too have to check message

They posted a new thread apologizing saying they are going to be more careful, asking customers to stop sending them things to clone lol I did send them pictures for inspiration more so haha now I'm just suggesting that they update the designs to the current pieces they have, like a larger FC-mod? With more perc and mouthpieces

 

[Abele Rizieri Ferrari]

I was looking at jcglass and I believe I haven't seen this before?

https://m.dhgate.com/product/glass-bong-hookah-rig-bubbler-for-smoking/821049382.html

Looks a bit like the vintage glass and CB ones excwpt for length and the perc which is just simple holes in stead of FOL. It's also much more affordable. I've already bought plenty glass recently but it is tempting, enough differentiations from the Gili rebrand I have. The jcglass is generally well regarded as well.

 

[Shit Snacks]

I was looking at jcglass and I believe I haven't seen this before?

https://m.dhgate.com/product/glass-bong-hookah-rig-bubbler-for-smoking/821049382.html

Looks a bit like the vintage glass and CB ones excwpt for length and the perc which is just simple holes in stead of FOL. It's also much more affordable. I've already bought plenty glass recently but it is tempting, enough differentiations from the Gili rebrand I have. The jcglass is generally well regarded as well.

Oh holy shit! They must be listening to some customers, that looks fantastic, damn... So it is basically a fountain honeycomb, like I've seen some of the smaller straight fabs have from China, I'm not sure I like the flared mouthpiece although definitely looks like good air flow though the perc is going to be more restrictive possibly? If it wasn't green and there were coupons I would be more tempted, also I just got an awesome new little heady from Seattle yesterday though... Aahhh but I must sell some more glass

 

[Grass Yes]

I just got an awesome new little heady from Seattle yesterday

 

[Shit Snacks]

I posted more about it in the heady glass thread, although it is quite reasonably priced for what it is honestly could be double, Innerg Glass made these pancake to waffle percs which are basically inline to honeycomb with less diffusion, fantastic function and fits perfectly with my allaccessary 10-14 drop down...

 

[DaVapeGuy]

I posted more about it in the heady glass thread, although it is quite reasonably priced for what it is honestly could be double, Innerg Glass made these pancake to waffle percs which are basically inline to honeycomb with less diffusion, fantastic function and fits perfectly with my allaccessary 10-14 drop down...

That's a dope piece

Did you just buy it direct from him?

 

[Shit Snacks]

That's a dope piece

Did you just buy it direct from him?

Yeah through Instagram, where he posted them, links in the heady glass thread, at least at the time I posted he still had the original tiniest one left (he said he could probably do a larger one 14 mm custom perhaps but also posted that he was going to be focusing on other designs for now)

 

[Grass Yes]

I posted more about it in the heady glass thread, although it is quite reasonably priced for what it is honestly could be double, Innerg Glass made these pancake to waffle percs which are basically inline to honeycomb with less diffusion, fantastic function and fits perfectly with my allaccessary 10-14 drop down...

I thought it might be the Innerg piece. I was waiting for your review before I jump on one. I would not mind if they made an 18 or 14 piece. I haven't had good luck with 10s for flower. Maybe I will talk to them about a custom if you like it.

 

[DaVapeGuy]

I thought it might be the Innerg piece. I was waiting for your review before I jump on one. I would not mind if they made an 18 or 14 piece. I haven't had good luck with 10s for flower. Maybe I will talk to them about a custom if you like it.

Yeah same. The one time I tried 10mm it was a bit too restrictive for me.

I bet his custom work isn't too expensive since he isn't well known?

 

[Shit Snacks]

I thought it might be the Innerg piece. I was waiting for your review before I jump on one. I would not mind if they made an 18 or 14 piece. I haven't had good luck with 10s for flower. Maybe I will talk to them about a custom if you like it.

Pretty sure he cannot do 18, and yeah 14 was a probably in the future, most all his pieces are 10... I didn't really start to get 10s until I started to get these US headies, they are designed for dabs and they are pretty spectacular for that... Can be nice with herbs too though

Like I said if you want this design in particular, it's best to just grab that tiny 10 if it is still available, at least a great way to try it for yourself! Even though it would be better or bigger of course for herbs I think it could still work well as is... Because who knows if / when there will be more of these from him? Smaller does make it cheaper too

Yeah same. The one time I tried 10mm it was a bit too restrictive for me.

Depending on the vape and the setup, they absolutely work with herbs, even heavy hitting high air flow, just need to control with other variables?

I bet his custom work isn't too expensive since he isn't well known?

Well it's based on his labor and complexity, often requires much patience, and if you are requesting a larger piece you have to assume double the price (I'm guessing close to 300 if you are looking for a larger 14 pancake waffler)