The Angus Halogen Vape by YLL Vape

[YLLVAPE OFFICAL]

@YLLVAPE OFFICAL I think there is one more thing to be cleared,since there is speculation. Has your design beeing influeced by the Apollo 2 Halogen Portable ? I cannot help but notice how similar the constrution of the top panel and some other parts are. Please dont consider this an attack on your product, it is totally fine to be inspired by others,but credit i due IMO,so i am asking if it is the case !
Other than that good luck with your product, other people have had a rough start and managed to bounce out of it !|

Convection , conduction, radiation are three heating way our team knows that can be used on herb vaporizer. but, its not outstanding to make normal ceramic or coil heating element. so we aimed to the bulb, something like the air fryer , radiation warmer we use in China in winter a lot. and no luck, Still not have the chance to get the Apollo yet. we were thinking of induction heating as well. but it needs longer time to develop it. and we are working on it actually. Hopefully we will have a pen style induction convection vaporizer next year. ( it can be 100% glass airpath in this way). For the structure, we did learn from the mighty. They set a very good example.

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

Convection , conduction, radiation are three heating way our team knows that can be used on herb vaporizer. but, its not outstanding to make normal ceramic or coil heating element. so we aimed to the bulb, something like the air fryer , radiation warmer we use in China in winter a lot. and no luck, Still not have the chance to get the Apollo yet. we were thinking of induction heating as well. but it needs longer time to develop it. and we are working on it actually. Hopefully we will have a pen style induction convection vaporizer next year. ( it can be 100% glass airpath in this way). For the structure, we did learn from the mighty. They set a very good example.

Hello ! I meant the Apollo 2 Halogen vaporizer that is no longer in production, not the Dynavap IH. It has 2 x 18650 batteries,similar battery cap,halogen heating element,boost mode ,similar top panel and wooden body,but if you dont know it,then you answered my question. Thanks for the input.

 

[davesmith]

Well done @YLLVAPE OFFICAL for coming back. Your product has the potential to be a very successful vaporiser i think that is clear. Good luck creating a better CU and thank you for your participation here.

 

[YLLVAPE OFFICAL]

Hello ! I meant the Apollo 2 Halogen vaporizer that is no longer in production, not the Dynavap IH. It has 2 x 18650 batteries,similar battery cap,halogen heating element,boost mode ,similar top panel and wooden body,but if you dont know it,then you answered my question. Thanks for the input.

the angus initial design is this, looks pretty awkward. and the boost idea is from the vaporizer user on Instagram (i can not recalled him name). the angus temperature settings were 160. 170, 180,190, 210, but he said some ppl wants darker AVB, needs to go to 230C. meanwhile, Scott said he wants to test higher temperature. thats how the boost mode comes from. Wood vapes are elegant. also for the limitation of the structure , it needs PCBA installed and solid wood. this battery cap solution is better and the first choice.

https://imgur.com/a/gSQCdWm

 

[GoldenBud]

Convection , conduction, radiation are three heating way our team knows that can be used on herb vaporizer. but, its not outstanding to make normal ceramic or coil heating element. so we aimed to the bulb, something like the air fryer , radiation warmer we use in China in winter a lot. and no luck, Still not have the chance to get the Apollo yet. we were thinking of induction heating as well. but it needs longer time to develop it. and we are working on it actually. Hopefully we will have a pen style induction convection vaporizer next year. ( it can be 100% glass airpath in this way). For the structure, we did learn from the mighty. They set a very good example.

the vape you made, Angus, is almost 100% convection.. in the radiation equations I can't find a value of velocity/flow, of the material...radiation is more like a "passive" and slow way to heat stuff.... the hot air, in this case, is what caused also the problem with the melted CU. just release an Angus 2 version and find some material that won't melt, it's fine, you already did great job by making a bulb portable that isn't breakable, do the next part, good luck!

 

[KeroZen]

@YLLVAPE OFFICAL glad to see that you are still around and taking these issues seriously. This is the kind of attitude that we greatly respect!

If your supplier can't produce an adequate surface treatment for your PEEK parts, you could still have them machined down to a proper finish in a second pass maybe? I know it would raise your production costs, but it might be a solution to consider.

I don't know enough about your particular issue and challenges to give you any meaningful advice though, but if you managed to use PEEK elsewhere in your vape already, there must be a way to use it in the CU too, maybe just as an insert or something.

Anyway, thank you for being open and trying to be as transparent as you can, it's appreciated. Your vape is not for me mostly due to the presence of silicone in various places, which I can't stand, but that's an issue for me alone and my taste buds. But otherwise the whole design looks well thought and interesting. If you keep improving it like you seem intent on doing, it might be successful!

 

[oddjobold]

@YLLVAPE OFFICAL will existing customers be getting the new CU for free?

I currently have an order for an Angus that's not shipped yet. Wondering if I should cancel.

 

[YLLVAPE OFFICAL]

@YLLVAPE OFFICAL will existing customers be getting the new CU for free?

I currently have an order for an Angus that's not shipped yet. Wondering if I should cancel.

i will contact the retailers for this once the new ones are available. it will not take long time.

 

[felvapes]

i will contact the retailers for this once the new ones are available. it will not take long time.

So you are adamant on using PPSU ?
I hope you do reconsider this

 

[YLLVAPE OFFICAL]

For the CE mark, i am sorry that it is not meet the standard printing. We change the font size to have more space for the layout, but the CE certificate is real. Will avoid this in the future. For the new cooling unit, we are working on the new CU, and i will keep you guys updates.

So you are adamant on using PPSU ?
I hope you do reconsider this

Yes, i will try new ones.

 

[felvapes]

For the CE mark, i am sorry that it is not meet the standard printing. We change the font size to have more space for the layout, but the CE certificate is real. Will avoid this in the future. For the new cooling unit, we are working on the new CU, and i will keep you guys updates.

Yes, i will try new ones.

Great news

 

[YLLVAPE OFFICAL]

Great news

i will also work on the glass tube one as you mentioned

 

[seedy53]

i will also work on the glass tube one as you mentioned

i wish users could replace their bulbs themselves, instead of sending to retailer for repair. that's one reason i will not buy it. this has always been my biggest issue.

 

[oddjobold]

i will contact the retailers for this once the new ones are available. it will not take long time.

@YLLVAPE OFFICAL. Shit happens. This is a new product and it won't be the first to have a hiccup at launch.

As long as your putting it right thats okay by me.

 

[Thick Vape]

probably has been asked often but is it possible to replace the balls with rubies?
I have some 4mm lying around that would love to get heated I think.

 

[Bruskee]

I used one that comes included in a transport case that I bought at Vapefully, I leave you the link in case you can recognize it

VapeTube V2

✅The VapeTube V2 is the second edition of the stylish and discreet case for your VapCap vaporizer, which also features herb storage compartment and a magnet for cooling the vaporizer cap. 💨 take advantage of the VapeFully vaporizer shop offer 💨

vapefully.com

Thank you sir!

 

[Breaking Bud]

@bm96
I remember the same thing happening on my Tera V3 with the white discoloration around the bowl.

I try to play it safe with ISO and plastic as I always use 99% ISO. With my initial cleaning, the plastic parts had maybe 30 seconds max exposure before I rinsed and dried them but I'll dilute my ISO a bit next time. I haven't even looked at my cooling unit since I first cleaned it but I'll inspect for discoloration this evening.

@Zuhdj @floribud
I can get mine to shut off as well when "setting" it down but I need to use more force then I would ever normally use and it has to be set down vertically. If I apply the same level of force on its side it stays on. My guess is that the spring loaded battery terminals are disengaging when it's "slammed" down.

I used 70% ISO and I soaked all parts overnight with no issues thus far.

 

[RogueGuy]

Been following the thread but not sure whether the "set down-shut off" issue has been addressed? Mine has started to do it.

Otherwise I'm still really enjoying this vape and glad to see that the maker is back and welcome material improvements to the CU

 

[Shit Snacks]

i will also work on the glass tube one as you mentioned

That is great to hear! Yeah just needs to be like the WPA, but without the metal in the middle, instead a silicone sleeve to hold the stem, so it can then slide in to the chamber, held in place by the chamber o-ring... Stem looks like this with glass honeycomb screen:

for WPA (ideally a separate one for 18 and a separate one for 14 instead of multi adapter) and can make another one that is a spiked bent glass cooling stem for dry use as well... Thanks for participating again here!

 

[Breaking Bud]

Hello, guys.

I am sorry for Angus issues, and hold up your time on this. I will be always responsible for my work and products without any doubts. The angus definetly needs a better cooling unit.

Our team takes melting and discoloration issues very seriously. We see the potency on Angus and would like to do whatever we can do to fix it to make better Angus.

The device with melting plastic issue is on the way, and we will check out how it happens on earth. I am sorry that i did not response in time, I was planning to give a good answer when the new cooling unit sample is ready and get that device next week. Meantime we are working on the new cooling unit ( replace this part into metal material), It will be also easy to clean without tweezer tool for dis assembling. Will test each part temperature of cooling unit at highest temperature for the new one, and i will show you our testing here. and send the new cooling unit to customers who has issue with the CU to test. and based on feedback, we will see if its good to update for Angus.

https://imgur.com/a/CHwJMHG

I can see everyone has high value expectation on Angus. YLLVAPE wants to make an unique and great vaporizer in the market. we will not disappoint you. Give us some time.

Let me know your question or concern here, and I will be here to answer.

I think that's a fair answer, everyone.

I am enjoying the vape very much thus far. I do suggest that YLL should definitively offer a free CU replacement with shipping included to anyone who requests one. Everyone can now appreciate your transparency and as such, you've acknowleged in subsequent posts that the CU unit needs to be modified to metal. So it's a no brainer that you should offer a no strings attached replacement when available. Also, you answered and apologized for the CE symbol issue so we all have to decide that we're okay with your comments.

Personally, I think you've made a really solid device with some flaws as most first versions have. Safety obviously must be fully addressed and confirmed. I'm enjoying mine a lot, especially with the WPA. Just continue now to be completely open and stand by your product so consumers are satisfied. I'm sure you'd agree that it's better to take a hopefully fairly modest financial hit in the beginning so that you can rightfully profit over the long term.

Regardless, thank you for your transparency. It's not easy to deal with a lot of scrutiny. Though it is a healthy and beneficial process for all involved when done respectfully, with civility, at all times.

 

[Abele Rizieri Ferrari]

That is great to hear! Yeah just needs to be like the WPA, but without the metal in the middle, instead a silicone sleeve to hold the stem, so it can then slide in to the chamber, held in place by the chamber o-ring... Stem looks like this with glass honeycomb screen:

for WPA (ideally a separate one for 18 and a separate one for 14 instead of multi adapter) and can make another one that is a spiked bent glass cooling stem for dry use as well... Thanks for participating again here!

Does the stem slide all the way to the bottom of the bowl? Essentially downsizing and glass plating the herb chamber?

 

[Shit Snacks]

Does the stem slide all the way to the bottom of the bowl? Essentially downsizing and glass plating the herb chamber?

Correct that would be the goal!

You could do another variation, where the glass stem sits atop the chamber, but I think it would be harder to cut out the silicone from the vapor path that way...? And yeah I would love to do glass stem loads for the chamber instead of having to use the steel

 

[Abele Rizieri Ferrari]

Correct that would be the goal!

You could do another variation, where the glass stem sits atop the chamber, but I think it would be harder to cut out the silicone from the vapor path that way...? And yeah I would love to do glass stem loads for the chamber instead of having to use the steel

My experience with glass stem loading (all the way to the bottom) was disappointing unfortunately, I think the narrower setup hinders some of the qualities I like about Angus. Also the AVB was very uneven (had some really dark spots). This did cut my experience short though and I saw Rogue I think? who seemed to have good results in a similar setup, so what the heck I'll give it another go in a bit lol maybe my fine BCG plate can help prevent the tunneling.

But yeah that alternative you mention, that keeps the integrity of the chamber in tact, would probably have my preference. It allows for that loose pack to let the warmth run through. But like you said it would be harder to nail with bypassing the oring, and doesn't help those sensitive to the ss.

 

[jasp3r]

My experience with glass stem loading (all the way to the bottom) was disappointing unfortunately, I think the narrower setup hinders some of the qualities I like about Angus. Also the AVB was very uneven (had some really dark spots). This did cut my experience short though and I saw Rogue I think? who seemed to have good results in a similar setup, so what the heck I'll give it another go in a bit lol maybe my fine BCG plate can help prevent the tunneling.

But yeah that alternative you mention, that keeps the integrity of the chamber in tact, would probably have my preference. It allows for that loose pack to let the warmth run through. But like you said it would be harder to nail with bypassing the oring, and doesn't help those sensitive to the ss.

Try a coarser grinder if it’s tunneling, or hand grinding a nug

 

[Shit Snacks]

My experience with glass stem loading (all the way to the bottom) was disappointing unfortunately, I think the narrower setup hinders some of the qualities I like about Angus. Also the AVB was very uneven (had some really dark spots). This did cut my experience short though and I saw Rogue I think? who seemed to have good results in a similar setup, so what the heck I'll give it another go in a bit lol maybe my fine BCG plate can help prevent the tunneling.

Yeah so I think it would be much better with a glass stem that is designed to fit properly, because based on Rogue and others, the only stems that can fit are even narrower now, and require extra o-ring to seal... Ideally the stem would be as perfect sized as possible so you wouldn't lose too much though it would definitely be smaller than loading in the chamber (like Fierce) but you could also have longer narrower chamber, though yeah with that type of setup it depends how you grind how well the extraction would be on different temps, closer to the load could extract darker than closer to the glass honeycomb screen... This is just my idea to make it into something I would be more into using, I have not been able to test it, since I have no glass stem that fits properly inside.

But yeah that alternative you mention, that keeps the integrity of the chamber in tact, would probably have my preference. It allows for that loose pack to let the warmth run through. But like you said it would be harder to nail with bypassing the oring, and doesn't help those sensitive to the ss.

You should still be able to do a loose pack in a stem, yeah coarser medium grind would be better, you wouldn't want a tight pack like a solo for more conduction...? Yeah I don't know if it's sensitivity to the steel, or this alloy, but I think all glass chamber is always a nice thing, but yeah if you want to be able to use capsules or the full chamber size, there should be an option that connects with all glass path to the top without keeping the o-ring in the path, I honestly I think any cooling unit or WPA should find a way to seal with that o-ring so you are not keeping the o-ring as part of your chamber, I think that is a design flaw personally)