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Abele Rizieri Ferrari said:
got rid of it as well in the first week. With the spiral I got buildup seeping into my mouth or glass way quicker than after I removed it.
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I'm amazed at the flavour, heated half way down oven, sans spiral filter. Top notch.

I really do firmly believe on John's assertions about the herb being mostly isolated/protected from heat until air is drawn over it.

I recall someone testing it with some sort of device. After the heat up click the herb chamber was well below a temp that would extract terps and most cannibinoids.

I hate that the Anvil gets compared to the Dynavap. It's in a a different galaxy. Like comparing a space shuttle with a ford focus.
 
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Okay I have a basic question: I usually finish the bowl in 2 long draws. The second draw always tastes a bit more burnt than the first. When I empty the bowl, I notice that on the top of the bowl the ABV color is way more light (light brown) than the ABV on the bottom of the bowl (dark brown).

Is this due to the second draw on the same heating? Or could it be because I draw too fast? I have the regular and the XL bowl and I usually cannot finish it in one draw. If I order the small bowl, and finish it at once, I won't experience burnt ABV at the bottom?
 
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condition said:
Okay I have a basic question: I usually finish the bowl in 2 long draws. The second draw always tastes a bit more burnt than the first. When I empty the bowl, I notice that on the top of the bowl the ABV color is way more light (light brown) than the ABV on the bottom of the bowl (dark brown).

Is this due to the second draw on the same heating? Or could it be because I draw too fast? I have the regular and the XL bowl and I usually cannot finish it in one draw. If I order the small bowl, and finish it at once, I won't experience burnt ABV at the bottom?
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Hiya, I find that a very loose packed bowl (like 0.05g in the regular bowl) keep the roast even. I haven't the XL bowl to try it on that one though. Not the best solution because it limits the load size. I rarely use the half bowl now, it makes more sense to me to use the full bowl to keep the pack loose. I loose pack all my convection vaporisers, seems to work well for even roast.
As it happens, for a long while now, 0.05g has been my max dose anyway so the Anvil full bowl works well for me. If I'm mixing in some CBD flower, loads of 0.1g go in the Dynavap and loads >0.1g go in the Elev8r.
Sorry, forgot to mention, I use a slow draw.
 
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Mushroomturtle said:
Hiya, I find that a very loose packed bowl (like 0.05g in the regular bowl) keep the roast even. I haven't the XL bowl to try it on that one though. Not the best solution because it limits the load size. I rarely use the half bowl now, it makes more sense to me to use the full bowl to keep the pack loose. I loose pack all my convection vaporisers, seems to work well for even roast.
As it happens, for a long while now, 0.05g has been my max dose anyway so the Anvil full bowl works well for me. If I'm mixing in some CBD flower, loads of 0.1g go in the Dynavap and loads >0.1g go in the Elev8r.
Sorry, forgot to mention, I use a slow draw.
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Thank you. Do you finish your loosely packed bowl in one slow draw, or you need a second draw as it still produces vapor?
 
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condition said:
Okay I have a basic question: I usually finish the bowl in 2 long draws. The second draw always tastes a bit more burnt than the first. When I empty the bowl, I notice that on the top of the bowl the ABV color is way more light (light brown) than the ABV on the bottom of the bowl (dark brown).

Is this due to the second draw on the same heating? Or could it be because I draw too fast? I have the regular and the XL bowl and I usually cannot finish it in one draw. If I order the small bowl, and finish it at once, I won't experience burnt ABV at the bottom?
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You use it natively? Smaller load would make it easier to finish. I think the top is less dark because convection is going on and the warm air enters through the air holes which are at the bottom. The second draw will draw more warm air over already partly extracted bud, so you lose the best flavor. I don't know if it has to do with heat as well. Fwiw for native hits I only really like my half bowl.
 
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Abele Rizieri Ferrari said:
You use it natively? Smaller load would make it easier to finish. I think the top is less dark because convection is going on and the warm air enters through the air holes which are at the bottom. The second draw will draw more warm air over already partly extracted bud, so you lose the best flavor. I don't know if it has to do with heat as well. Fwiw for native hits I only really like my half bowl.
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Thanks, I regret not ordering the half bowl. Since I received the WPA I mostly use it on a J-Hook, not natively, and I have noticed that I have to take the second draw slowly and not aggressive otherwise it will get partly combusted
 
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condition said:
Thanks, I regret not ordering the half bowl. Since I received the WPA I mostly use it on a J-Hook, not natively, and I have noticed that I have to take the second draw slowly and not aggressive otherwise it will get partly combusted
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Yeah I haven't used it (the wpa setup) with a j hook yet but expect one early next week. I use through water and extract most in one draw, take a second smaller one that is less flavorful (but not like close to combustion or anything). Previously when I used it (the stem setup) with j hook I did notice the degradation of flavor to near combustion taste, and the slight charring on the bottom of the bowl. Ever since is started conditioning my weed with hydrostone and booster pack it has a nice level of moist that prevents any of those issues.
 
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condition said:
Okay I have a basic question: I usually finish the bowl in 2 long draws. The second draw always tastes a bit more burnt than the first. When I empty the bowl, I notice that on the top of the bowl the ABV color is way more light (light brown) than the ABV on the bottom of the bowl (dark brown).

Is this due to the second draw on the same heating? Or could it be because I draw too fast? I have the regular and the XL bowl and I usually cannot finish it in one draw. If I order the small bowl, and finish it at once, I won't experience burnt ABV at the bottom?
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I find that if I've ground up too fine and over packed it, I get these results. I can clear the .2g almost entirely in one go as long as it's not over packed.
 
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John recommends a loose pack - at HQ we like to equate our bowl filling to roasting veggies on an oven pan, you want as much on as possible so you don't need to dirty another pan but you can't overcrowd it or it will cook unevenly

Edit from John: If you are combusting continuously move the flame to the stainless steel section of the CopperCore Oven (if you haven't already) and ensure that your herb is dry but not super dry.

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Thank you for your replies. I use a humidity control tool, boveda. I experience very satisfying vapor in the first draw and less satisfying in the second with a slightly burned taste. My lungs make it difficult to finish the regular bowl at once so I need a second. I will try now John's advice to point the flame to the steel part between upper and medium ring.

Edit, so anything above 2nd ring does not work, it clicks way too soon.
If I point the flame between the 2nd and the 1st ring and wait for the second click I have satisfactory vapor and taste in the 1st draw especially. The ABV however is uneven, not that it bothers me a lot but I want to get deep into it, LOL. So first is a pic of when I unscrew the bowl with the light brown ABV visible on top and some TRI shown and the 2nd pic from when I empty the bowl from right to left.
If you finish your bowls in two draws or more, do you notice same uneven ABV?

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I think my AVB look the same whether I cash my bowl in 1 or multiple draws.
I have a slight difference in color between the top and bottom like you but really not that much.
By the pics I would join other comments and think you're packing your bowl to much/to tight. Try a loser pack. Even feeling half of your bowl loosely and see if that changes.
 
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@condition Yeah like I said I also have that and my layperson explanation is that it is caused by the airholes taking in the hottest air, which is common to convection heating ime. I think the hydrostone will solve your issue, especially if you don't store your bud that long, it takes long to get at the right moisture level. A hydrostone fixes that.
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I think my AVB look the same whether I cash my bowl in 1 or multiple draws.
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Same
 
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condition said:
Thank you for your replies. I use a humidity control tool, boveda. I experience very satisfying vapor in the first draw and less satisfying in the second with a slightly burned taste. My lungs make it difficult to finish the regular bowl at once so I need a second. I will try now John's advice to point the flame to the steel part between upper and medium ring.

Edit, so anything above 2nd ring does not work, it clicks way too soon.
If I point the flame between the 2nd and the 1st ring and wait for the second click I have satisfactory vapor and taste in the 1st draw especially. The ABV however is uneven, not that it bothers me a lot but I want to get deep into it, LOL. So first is a pic of when I unscrew the bowl with the light brown ABV visible on top and some TRI shown and the 2nd pic from when I empty the bowl from right to left.
If you finish your bowls in two draws or more, do you notice same uneven ABV?

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It's hard to be sure but from the amount of avb in the photo it looks to me like too much was loaded in the chamber. It isn't loosely packed.
Edit: I would expect the same results as in the photo if I loaded that amount in the regular chamber.
 
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@condition (and the rest lol) I just weighed and I used .1 in regular bowl. With the stem I get like 5 fat hits. Flavor stays nice with of course some diminishing in the last hits. AVB is even, but somewhat somewhat lighter on the top, tobacco brown.

I just tried this today after the half bowl drew me back to the stem. I'd also tried when I first got it, but that was before I conditioned my herb. Just like @condition mentioned I also got 2 hits and taste was hit or miss.

These hydrostones have made vaping so much more enjoyable because retail points store the bud in the open so unless it's a fresh batch it's gonna be dry. With the conditioning I get my herb on a set level of moisture that gives me the most flavorful and cloudy experience, while also giving the advantage of having the variable of moisture more constant which allows to better dial in your extraction. Discovery of the year for me (that and dropdown adapter to keep my water pieces clean)
 
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I understand, I just weighted my regular bowl also and it is almost exactly .1
This with scooping with the bowl into the grinder without pressing at all. Most probably this was my mistake, I was making a second scoop with the regular bowl followed by pressing/taping a bit. @Abele Rizieri Ferrari do you own the half bowl?
 
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Can anyone comment on the USA air flow adjustment? Is it possible to constrict the air flow down to get tight MTL joint hits like the OG Anvil air adjustment valve, or is it too wide open for this method? Thanks for any insight.
 
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HunkaHunkaBucketFuckit said:
my close friend just passed and loved the anvil whenever we hung out, take some fat rips for my friend tonight Anville

he always said anvil was some alien type shit
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Condolences my man. My friends little brother is in ICU after a horrible motorcycle accident and is unlikely to make it. These next few rips are for your buddy! So sorry ♥️♥️♥️
 
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