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macbill

macbill

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florduh

florduh

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It looks like this study made the rounds through what passes for the press in this country...

www.npr.org

Young adults are using marijuana and hallucinogens at the highest rates on record

The National Institutes of Health annually surveys substance abuse among young adults in its Monitoring the Future study.
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I notice this study got much less play:

medicalxpress.com

Legalizing marijuana found to decrease use of alcohol, pain meds and cigarettes

A team of researchers at the University of Washington, working with a colleague at Multnomah County Health Department and Oregon Health Authority Public Health Division has found that when a state decriminalizes recreational use of marijuana, the use of alcohol and the abuse of pain medications...
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macbill

macbill

Oh No! Mr macbill!!
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Polarbearboy

Polarbearboy

Tokin' Away Since 1968
Does CBD help with sleep? Yes!


My comment on this article was just accepted, so here it is: "According to numerous studies, nearly 20% of Americans are using cannabis products at least occasionally, for both medical and recreational purposes. Given the ubiquity of pain and the prevalence of insomnia and the well-known impacts of cannabis products to ameliorate these problems, you'd think it would be a major focus of clinical studies. Yet because cannabis and its derivatives are a scheduled drug, its availability to undertake clinical research targeting a myriad of health issues is sharply limited.

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florduh

florduh

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www.jdsupra.com

Can President Biden Legalize Marijuana? | JD Supra

Can the President unilaterally legalize marijuana under federal law? In early November, Congressional researchers concluded that, while President...
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Although the CRS report found that the President cannot deschedule marijuana unilaterally via executive order, the report also found that “he might order executive agencies to consider either altering the scheduling of marijuana or changing their enforcement approach.” Because the President does possess a large degree of indirect influence over scheduling decisions, he could appoint agency officials who favor descheduling, or use executive orders to direct DEA, HHS, and FDA to consider administrative descheduling of marijuana. The notice-and-comment rulemaking process would take time, and would be subject to judicial review if challenged, but could be done consistently with the CSA’s procedural requirements.
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It would probably take the President a few months to deschedule cannabis. But it could be done. Yet he hasn't lifted a finger. Because he's a lifelong prohibitionist.

Descheduling cannabis would be an excellent political move. Because it will force the other side to say things about weed most Americans will find fucking stupid. And, as we saw from some of those speeches on the Congress floor, inadvertently make arguments in favor of legalization. "But the children", "fent laced weed", stupid shit like that.

I agree the Red Team is explicitly anti-cannabis. But the Blue Team is not serious about legalization. If they were they'd be acting very differently. Probably because the real power in this country, the business interests who benefit from prohibition, are either explicitly or implicitly calling the shots.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1402271179499573249
 
Gunky

Gunky

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Cannabis legalization is politics. Cannabis news is at least in part news about actions taking place in the political sphere. You may not want to hear it but it is nonsense to pretend politics is unrelated. There is also a ridiculous inconsistency in allowing this but deleting similar stuff:
I agree the Red Team is explicitly anti-cannabis. But the Blue Team is not serious about legalization. If they were they'd be acting very differently. Probably because the real power in this country, the business interests who benefit from prohibition, are either explicitly or implicitly calling the shots.
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invertedisdead

invertedisdead

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Frankly I think this whole section should be shut down.

It’s true that cannabis legalization is political, and obviously this forum can’t handle any political discourse. And why should it? Better to just go back to sharing our common interest and talking about vapes.

Been on this forum longer than most and the strangest thing is -politics had never been a problem on FC until cannabis legalization started occurring.

This thread, the random thoughts thread, the interesting news thread, the meme thread - all get heavy political injections. If it was me I’d just shut them down. Our community doesn’t benefit anything by judging each other for our political preferences. I just hate seeing good members fighting with each other over something that has nothing to do with why we’re on here.
 
Grass Yes

Grass Yes

Yes
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invertedisdead said:
Been on this forum longer than most and the strangest thing is -politics had never been a problem on FC until cannabis legalization started occurring.

This thread, the random thoughts thread, the interesting news thread, the meme thread - all get heavy political injections. If it was me I’d just shut them down. Our community doesn’t benefit anything by judging each other for our political preferences. I just hate seeing good members fighting with each other over something that has nothing to do with why we’re on here.
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I personally don't mind political discussions here. But I think no forum should tolerate racism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia or other hate. I have not been on FC nearly as long as you, so I don't know if this became a problem after legalization in the US. But I have seen examples of hateful garbage on nearly every thread on this site. I remember once that Okla burst in to the Halo thread like Kool-aid man to complain about the price. He then followed it up with a thread of transphobic and homophobic bullshit. The mods here are pretty good at removing and cleaning up posts, but it does erase the history of some of the more heinous stuff.

Just to be clear, I am not disagreeing with any mod's decision on this. FC is pretty clear in what's allowed. It isn't hard to avoid trouble if you just stay in your lane.
 
Stu

Stu

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Gunky said:
Cannabis legalization is politics. Cannabis news is at least in part news about actions taking place in the political sphere. You may not want to hear it but it is nonsense to pretend politics is unrelated. There is also a ridiculous inconsistency in allowing this but deleting similar stuff:
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While there is certainly some crossover when it comes to cannabis and politics, it doesn't have to be controversial. There is a big difference between the discussion of the political wisdom of any given administration's stance on cannabis legalization and the mud-slinging that comes with discussions about guns and gender (for example). So cannabis is only as political as you make it out to be.

Let's endeavor to keep this thread focused on cannabis and leave the hot-button identity politics for the twittershpere.

Thank you.

:peace:
 
Polarbearboy

Polarbearboy

Tokin' Away Since 1968
Love FC and love Stu. Thanks Stu for doing this job year after year, mostly with a smile.

I've been a troublemaker since I was a kid. Had a wonderful career making Elijah Cummings's sort of "good trouble." But still make more than my share of good old fashioned just trouble. Otherwise, why would I be here!, have gotten stoned pretty regularly for some 52 or so of the last 55! years. I could promise to behave...and mean it, but....
 
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Alexis

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Lol, just saw Stu's comment above made me laugh as I already felt inclined to say how I kind of stepped out of the show of politics a good while ago.



Time tells, and it must be the case in some sense at least that all things are ultimately determined I feel and deeply reason.

So I guess I also released the act of hoping.

I look forward though. Just not in wishful imagination, as the grass of the future can be very green!
 
florduh

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Hippie said:

Canadian growers destroyed a record 425 million grams of cannabis last year​


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  • 3,576,232 packages of dried cannabis.
  • 1,118,148 packages of extracts, including vapes.
  • 2,421,823 packages of edibles, including beverages.
  • 15,359 packages of topicals.
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All destroyed. So is weed more or less free in Canada? Because the rules of the Magical and Infallible Free Market says it should be. If they produce enough to set literally tons of perfectly usable product on fire.
 
pakalolo

pakalolo

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Gunky said:
Cannabis legalization is politics. Cannabis news is at least in part news about actions taking place in the political sphere. You may not want to hear it but it is nonsense to pretend politics is unrelated. There is also a ridiculous inconsistency in allowing this but deleting similar stuff:
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There is a huge difference between the politics of cannabis legalisation and partisan politics.

The policy of FC has alawys been Be Nice. It has never been No Politics. Even discussions of partisan poilitics are tolerated as long as they are polite and respectful. It's not always easy to decide when the line is crossed and there will always be disagreements about that, but we try to do the best we can. If posts on any topic (not just politics) cause friction and animosity, we will step in and delete comments and/or hand out warning points.

Speaking of warning points, I know you are well aware that discussions of staff decisions are not permitted. If you have a problem then use a PM. Further public disusssion along this line will result in a warning point. Anyone else who has any comment about this can send a PM or risk a warning point. Thank you for your cooperation.
 
florduh

florduh

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Gunky

Gunky

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Public discussions of staff decisions are not permitted. This warning point could have been avoided by simply following moderator's instructions.
Well, at the risk of getting myself thrown off here I'm going to say something. It is fashionable nowadays to put down partisanship. Avoid one side or the other, we are told. The problem with that is: if you are here reading this, you are a cannabis activist. If you are reading this you are very likely engaged in partisan activities designed to legalize cannabis. You are not neutral on the issue. You are not straddling the fence. You have plunked in a fairly big way for one side and that is the side of liberalizing restrictions, overturning current federal and state cannabis prohibitions, ending the locking up of cannabis users, traders and growers, and letting those people already locked up out of prison.
 
florduh

florduh

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Gunky said:
It is fashionable nowadays to put down partisanship. Avoid one side or the other, we are told.
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It's fashionable because you have an explicitly prohibitionist party using talking points straight out of the 1920's. The opposing political party is lead by a lifelong drug warrior. And yes, they do pass decent legalization legislation out of the House, but they know it will never* pass the Senate. So it sort of comes across as a publicity stunt.

*Note, it could pass the Senate. But they'd have to actually work for it. And not even that hard. I didn't hear a single argument against legalization from Congressmen that isn't laughable to most people. The Blue Team could easily make political hay out of their stupidity and MAYBE get it to pass the Senate.

Even if that's impossible, the President could make massive progress in a matter of months just by signing some memos. Instead, he's allowing the Feds to continue putting people in prison for decades on cannabis charges.

So yeah, I'm a staunch partisan for full legalization. But it's fashionable to avoid one side or the other when it comes to political parties because it's easy to look around and say, no one in power really has my back when it comes to cannabis legalization.
 
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