Multi-brand Xmax V3Pro vaporizer, convection, on-demand&session.

Thunderbelch

Well-Known Member
For me the main reason to replace the MP screen was keeping the ceramic cooling unit cleaner. With the 60 mesh replacement screen, it needs cleaning far less often than with the stock screen. Restriction might also be less, but that's hard to measure.
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NOLOGO

Well-Known Member
For me the main reason to replace the MP screen was keeping the ceramic cooling unit cleaner. With the 60 mesh replacement screen, it needs cleaning far less often than with the stock screen. Restriction might also be less, but that's hard to measure.
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I personally don't see any benefit to keeping the thick metal screen holder. It retains heat more than the basket screen I'm using, therefore making the hits slightly hotter.

And @Thunderbelch you may not have increased airflow much, because that thick ring reduces the airpath fairly significantly. I'm still testing mine with the basket screen, but this point I can't think of a signle reason why that stock "screen holder" is even needed... structurally, functionally or otherwise. (I realize in your case it's holding the round screen in place.)

But YES, the biggest benefit I see this far is less cleaning inside the mouthpiece, AND the screen itself gets less clogged.

I'm doing more testing on my gigs this weekend and will report back @XMAXVAPORIZER 🙂
 

LesPlenty

Well-Known Member
Company Rep
this point I can't think of a signle reason why that stock "screen holder" is even needed
Well stop holding out and tell us where or what the screens you are using came from as stated the basket screens I tried would not fit properly and the reason I went with the DDave in the OG plate screen holder instead.
 

NOLOGO

Well-Known Member
Well stop holding out and tell us where or what the screens you are using came from as stated the basket screens I tried would not fit properly and the reason I went with the DDave in the OG plate screen holder instead.
As I said in my first post about them I literally have no idea where I got them, other than they were in my box marked "screens" that I've had and been adding to for like 15 years lol. I only have 2 of them that size.

If I had to guess I'd say they are from a Firewood vape. I have 3 iterations, so I'll take a look to see if they fit those, and if so we can probably holler at @firewood to see if they know anything about where to procure them. (I feel like they're smaller than any firewood bowls I remember, but I'll take a look in case)

I'll also take some measurement photos. I have a digital caliper so we can get some pretty precise measurements. Sorry I can't be of more help!
 

VapeReady

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So friends, I received the Xmax V3 Pro couple of days ago. I must say I am blowned away by the performance.

Currently I actually think it runs a little hotter than the temp reading on the vape. Never owned a vape that blows such dense clouds on 158c.

Vaporizing on 158c feels more like 170c, so by any means i really am curious if this awesome vape is really that correct in temperature settings...

I owned a Mighty and Fury Edge and i can't really say that the V3 is underwhelming, compared to those vapes, it's more like the other way around.
 
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rozroz

Well-Known Member
so i used the V3 a couple of times, and coming from the Vleaf,
i will mostly use the V3 for an on demand quick use (which works great in the Vleaf).

of course finally now i can use capsules in the V3 bigger size,
but nowi have a problem when using capsules in on demand mode,
it's such a different airpath, feels way bigger now,
so after the heat is set when holding the button,
when inhaling i'm not sure if it's heated enough or the bigger airpath
makes the air less hot, or the capsules need an extra heat up?
so ATM i inhale couple extra times and it messes up my "calculations",
and i can go past my desired effect afterwards.
not sure how to know be more exact.
and of course it takes way too long to have a quick use and misses the whole point.
maybe the answer is not using capsules when in on demand? hope not!


and also, what would be the best way to microdose with a capsule?
i'm sure i've read it here somewhere but can't find it.

tnx :)
 

NOLOGO

Well-Known Member
The FW mention may help some but the measurements with the verniers will also help. :cheers:
The OG screen holder is quite easy to lose so having basket screens that do not fall out by just looking at them would be nice.
I still need to measure it... hopefully today.

BUT, I've had a few chances to use it modded out and about, and HOL-EEE- SHI-----
I am SUPER impressed! I played 2 festivals this weekend as well as 4 other gigs, and this thing hangs like a champ!

Took me a few bowls to realize I was over packing. What worked with the stock screen is too much material for this mod, since this screen is convex and dips into the bowl a bit. I'm getting HUGE sessions from less material though!! And when I'm done with a sesh I just brush the screen with my fingers, and there's almost no residual material on there! Mouthpiece blows as freely as it did before the sesh. I am in the habit of dumping the spent bowl while it's hot so it's sticks less, but having the screen be nearly 100% clean after a session is a winner in my book! 💯

Also, I can tell the insides are cooling down faster. I like having less metal mass at the screen, so there's less unnecessary residual heat between the vapor and my mouth. These little mesh screens cool down so fast.

I'll try to get measurements today!
 

XMAXVAPORIZER

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
For me the main reason to replace the MP screen was keeping the ceramic cooling unit cleaner. With the 60 mesh replacement screen, it needs cleaning far less often than with the stock screen. Restriction might also be less, but that's hard to measure.
photo_2022-03-24_13-46-05.jpg

I personally don't see any benefit to keeping the thick metal screen holder. It retains heat more than the basket screen I'm using, therefore making the hits slightly hotter.

And @Thunderbelch you may not have increased airflow much, because that thick ring reduces the airpath fairly significantly. I'm still testing mine with the basket screen, but this point I can't think of a signle reason why that stock "screen holder" is even needed... structurally, functionally or otherwise. (I realize in your case it's holding the round screen in place.)

But YES, the biggest benefit I see this far is less cleaning inside the mouthpiece, AND the screen itself gets less clogged.

I'm doing more testing on my gigs this weekend and will report back @XMAXVAPORIZER 🙂
Thank you for sharing your feedback about the mod you did, @NOLOGO and @Thunderbelch , I read all the posts and I agree it looks like this is making the V3Pro a better unit improving airflow and reducing vapor's heat, great idea (and thank you to you @LesPlenty cause you was the first to mention that idea if I remenber well!
So friends, I received the Xmax V3 Pro couple of days ago. I must say I am blowned away by the performance.

Currently I actually think it runs a little hotter than the temp reading on the vape. Never owned a vape that blows such dense clouds on 158c.

Vaporizing on 158c feels more like 170c, so by any means i really am curious if this awesome vape is really that correct in temperature settings...

I owned a Mighty and Fury Edge and i can't really say that the V3 is underwhelming, compared to those vapes, it's more like the other way around.
Thank you for the kinds words about the Xmax V3Pro. I'm glad you joined the Xmax fam! About the temperature accuracy, you are correct the t° can be slightly hotter than the one you selected cause how is working convection, many factors have to be considered (hit length, ambient air t°, airflow,...) despite the sensor. Have fun!


GOOD NEW, look at this new Xmax V3Pro color:

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Enjoy!
 

Thunderbelch

Well-Known Member
@XMAXVAPORIZER Love the new color!

So this is what it looks like under the oven screen. My screen was very loose, so I wedged the tip of a pin in one of the holes to get some grip and lift it up a bit, then maneuvered it out with tweezers. Turns out there was quite a lot of very fine ABV that made it through the stock screen, even though I've been using it with an extra screen in the oven right from the start:
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The extra screen is domed very slightly to give around 1.5mm space between the 2 screens:
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Cleaned it out by brushing & by pulling air through the oven, all while holding it upside down so nothing falls down further into the oven. There's another screen below the main one, and the heater looks like some kind of narrow tube arrangement (explaining the slightly uneven extraction). Can't really see more without further disassembly, but at least it's nice and clean again:
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Warning: Don't do this unless you really have to! My screen went back in nicely, but there's a very real possibility you might damage the little tabs around the screen or bend the screen so it doesn't stay in anymore (although you could replace it with a normal screen if you have to). Next time I pull the screen I'll check whether the vape is less noisy without it, whether it draws more freely, and whether you can see any coil glow when it heats up (which might give hints about the coil design).

Perhaps this could also help those who found that performance got worse after long term use.
 

NOLOGO

Well-Known Member
@XMAXVAPORIZER Love the new color!

So this is what it looks like under the oven screen. My screen was very loose, so I wedged the tip of a pin in one of the holes to get some grip and lift it up a bit, then maneuvered it out with tweezers. Turns out there was quite a lot of very fine ABV that made it through the stock screen, even though I've been using it with an extra screen in the oven right from the start:
photo_2022-03-29_21-33-17.jpg

The extra screen is domed very slightly to give around 1.5mm space between the 2 screens:
photo_2022-03-29_21-32-22.jpg

Cleaned it out by brushing & by pulling air through the oven, all while holding it upside down so nothing falls down further into the oven. There's another screen below the main one, and the heater looks like some kind of narrow tube arrangement (explaining the slightly uneven extraction). Can't really see more without further disassembly, but at least it's nice and clean again:
photo_2022-03-29_21-31-50.jpg

Warning: Don't do this unless you really have to! My screen went back in nicely, but there's a very real possibility you might damage the little tabs around the screen or bend the screen so it doesn't stay in anymore (although you could replace it with a normal screen if you have to). Next time I pull the screen I'll check whether the vape is less noisy without it, whether it draws more freely, and whether you can see any coil glow when it heats up (which might give hints about the coil design).

Perhaps this could also help those who found that performance got worse after long term use.
this is great stuff, thanks!!
 

XMAXVAPORIZER

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
New color rocks !I am sure many of those will be sold !:)
I'm glad you like the new color, it's called "Very Peri".
@XMAXVAPORIZER Love the new color!

So this is what it looks like under the oven screen. My screen was very loose, so I wedged the tip of a pin in one of the holes to get some grip and lift it up a bit, then maneuvered it out with tweezers. Turns out there was quite a lot of very fine ABV that made it through the stock screen, even though I've been using it with an extra screen in the oven right from the start:
photo_2022-03-29_21-33-17.jpg

The extra screen is domed very slightly to give around 1.5mm space between the 2 screens:
photo_2022-03-29_21-32-22.jpg

Cleaned it out by brushing & by pulling air through the oven, all while holding it upside down so nothing falls down further into the oven. There's another screen below the main one, and the heater looks like some kind of narrow tube arrangement (explaining the slightly uneven extraction). Can't really see more without further disassembly, but at least it's nice and clean again:
photo_2022-03-29_21-31-50.jpg

Warning: Don't do this unless you really have to! My screen went back in nicely, but there's a very real possibility you might damage the little tabs around the screen or bend the screen so it doesn't stay in anymore (although you could replace it with a normal screen if you have to). Next time I pull the screen I'll check whether the vape is less noisy without it, whether it draws more freely, and whether you can see any coil glow when it heats up (which might give hints about the coil design).

Perhaps this could also help those who found that performance got worse after long term use.
Hi, thank you for sharing your smart idea, for now I can't recommand each others to try that BUT I'm in touch with the team in order to know if it's a "deep cleaning" you can do by yourself (if yes this is will not void warranty...), stay tuned!


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Enjoy the new "Very Peri" color! So now you can choose between Black, Silver and... Very Peri! I will inform you when this color will be available in US... soon for sure!
 

LesPlenty

Well-Known Member
Company Rep

WTF Top Green?
That is the second unit I have heard smells bad from the get go...are there Chinese knock-offs of a cheap Chinese vape getting around?
Don't know about the ferrochromium as the heater is Kanthal and the bowl is stainless steel.
 

MoltenTiger

Well-Known Member
Interesting video and youtube comments

So Kanthal is the trademark for a family of iron-chromium-aluminium (FeCrAl) alloys used in a wide range of resistance and high-temperature applications

I do want to see all the components and internal layout. There's always room for improvement, and if a problem is observable it can be fixed.

I don't know about the safety factors of ferrous/chromium material in this application - but I would like to at least be aware of what the product is in full detail. I wouldn't know if there is chromium in my SS sublimator, and if there is I don't think it's a problem there.. I've heard it stated it has better flavour than the Ti alternative.

Material information should be listed in a specification chart. There is no point in making a vaporiser that is worse than smoking. However it is a bit meaningless as inhalation risk and mixed material risk is largely unstudied.

A lot of people have a problem with vaping through metal heaters, whether it's about red-hot coils or dust concerns, it's a fair stance - and it's seemingly obvious that this device is a cheap version of a metal heat exchanger.
However with so many variables it's practically up to user discretion to select the product that works best for themselves, or seems to.

My grasshoppers cost a lot and used medical grade laser sintered brass as a heat exchanger. I would still use them if mine still worked properly.

This product cost less than half as much and is basically a mystery to me. I like it because it just works. It tastes normal to me, and I've never seen any dust or pollution from the heater/device.

I've yet to have any obvious issue from vaping since smoking, it seems to have been very advantageous in every way. All the devices I've bought in Australia, all imports, have had minimal off-gas out-of-the-box, but there is some comfort in imagining a functional/practical all-glass option or something new where the company is proud of their material selection choices and considers it a feature, it's really the most important feature beyond the actual dynamic function by design.

I've had my V3 Pro mostly on the sidelines lately as I've lost my source for flower. I am much more concerned with the delta 8 carts and dabs I have than I am with the Xmax product, but mine never stank.
 

Grass Yes

Yes
Staff member
@Grass Yes His bottom line is that he is saying the vape uses ferrochromium in the heating element (according to Top Green) which is toxic according to his research.

I know nothing of such matters but that's basically his message
I don't understand what all that stuff about dates and numbers is about and why he decided that there was anything toxic. It's not clear what evidence he has besides his imagination.

And why create a brand new account to share it here? And why not just write a comment rather than hover your phone over his display for a video?
 

Abysmal Vapor

Supersniffer 2000 - robot fart detection device
Well i dont wanna take shots at the guy. But i dont think he has done enough research on toxicity of chromium... The only concern is the hexavalent chromium. Please find evidence that it is formed with Kanthal,you will find that the oxidation it gets is the type of chromium which is beneficial to the health in small ammounts.
That all being said, i am also not happy with the way V3pro smelled out of the box ,but the concern about kanthal is as big as with any other vape that uses it . Aromizer,Dreamwood Glow, Musa 510 etc... I would love to see a teardown though, i am curious to see what is the heat insulation around the heater.
Do you have a space heater at home or a hair dryer ? There is a fistful of kanthal coils inside those.
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pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
Our rule is:
  • If you have a question or comment regarding material safety, post it in General Discussion. Do not post it in a model thread.
I am not starting a new thread for this, but someone else can. Please do not continue this discussion here. Thanks for your cooperation.
 

Gn0chi

New Member
Is this your video? It is pretty hard to follow. Can you summarize your complaint?
No.
I don't understand most of the video, don't know if it's real or not, the only thing I asked here is why would a check number do this, of it's real that is that I'm not saying it is.

I don't understand what all that stuff about dates and numbers is about and why he decided that there was anything toxic. It's not clear what evidence he has besides his imagination.

And why create a brand new account to share it here? And why not just write a comment rather than hover your phone over his display for a video?
Yeah, I don't understand most of it, but I took toxic not the vape but the reaction and the impression he got from the company.

Our rule is:
  • If you have a question or comment regarding material safety, post it in General Discussion. Do not post it in a model thread.
I am not starting a new thread for this, but someone else can. Please do not continue this discussion here. Thanks for your cooperation.
It wasn't that. It's about if that's possible, or is that fake. The serial number check number

Well i dont wanna take shots at the guy. But i dont think he has done enough research on toxicity of chromium... The only concern is the hexavalent chromium. Please find evidence that it is formed with Kanthal,you will find that the oxidation it gets is the type of chromium which is beneficial to the health in small ammounts.
That all being said, i am also not happy with the way V3pro smelled out of the box ,but the concern about kanthal is as big as with any other vape that uses it . Aromizer,Dreamwood Glow, Musa 510 etc... I would love to see a teardown though, i am curious to see what is the heat insulation around the heater.
Do you have a space heater at home or a hair dryer ? There is a fistful of kanthal coils inside those.
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The toxic I believe was a figure of speech. Not the device it self.
Your device smelled funny when you got it but that's because of the foam it is inserted into. Go to the foam in the box and check the smell.
 
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