The Official CannaBreak Thread

[BestBuds]

So I am going to take my first t break since March. It's the longest I've gone without a t break and I can now take a 100mg edible and feel pretty much nothing...

I wonder how you folks deal with the jitters you feel. Or maybe that's just me... I feel almost like a shiver or a jitter like if you're sensitive to Sudafed or something. I have anxiety and it feels like shit when that comes on.

I'm getting repetitive in my head too and that's probably the worse side effect I've had from cannabis. My short t breaks have kept things in check but the pandemic lockdown made me forgo the t breaks. I regret it now. lol

 

[Alexis]

So I am going to take my first t break since March. It's the longest I've gone without a t break and I can now take a 100mg edible and feel pretty much nothing...

I wonder how you folks deal with the jitters you feel. Or maybe that's just me... I feel almost like a shiver or a jitter like if you're sensitive to Sudafed or something. I have anxiety and it feels like shit when that comes on.

I'm getting repetitive in my head too and that's probably the worse side effect I've had from cannabis. My short t breaks have kept things in check but the pandemic lockdown made me forgo the t breaks. I regret it now. lol

Kava bro! Perfect temporary substitute, especially for anxiety, insomnia, tension, depression etc, AND cravings.

 

[BestBuds]

Kava bro! Perfect temporary substitute, especially for anxiety, insomnia, tension, depression etc, AND cravings.

I can't deal with the numb throat unfortunately

Edit: after a quick search I see it's now available in extracts. So I can pop a kava pill?!? I'm going to PM you Alexis.

 

[Scrimshaw]

I'm just starting a t-break and found a nice downloadable 21-day progress chart for some moral support:

T-Break: Take a Cannabis Tolerance Break

www.uvm.edu

By Tom Fontana @ UVM

Each week has a theme, each day has tangible recommendations, mental affirmations & a quote, and there's a progress tracker to keep you motivated. Pretty cool!

Join in and we can get high as Santa's sled on x-mas eve!

 

[BestBuds]

I'm just starting a t-break and found a nice downloadable 21-day progress chart for some moral support:

T-Break: Take a Cannabis Tolerance Break

www.uvm.edu

By Tom Fontana @ UVM

Each week has a theme, each day has tangible recommendations, mental affirmations & a quote, and there's a progress tracker to keep you motivated. Pretty cool!

Join in and we can get high as Santa's sled on x-mas eve!

The word “marijuana” has a history in the United States. Its roots are in racism and the war on drugs. So I say ‘cannabis’ or ‘weed.' I hope that is ok with you.

Damn! Right on the first page they have me! I say cannabis or herb, buds, and flower. for their exact reason as well. I don't like to say weed tho. To me it's a powerful and very special herb in my life, it's no mere weed.

 

[Alexis]

Interviewer: " @BestBuds , why are you on a cannabreak?"

Bestbuds- " 'cos I'm Luuuving my kava!"

☺

 

[daoist]

Interviewer: " @BestBuds , why are you on a cannabreak?"

Bestbuds- " 'cos I'm Luuuving my kava!"

☺

a t break for 1 week will be more than enough. 1 week t-breaks are for resseting your receptors. 1 month t-breaks are for trying to pass a drug test. it is not the same thing.

 

[Alexis]

a t break for 1 week will be more than enough. 1 week t-breaks are for resseting your receptors. 1 month t-breaks are for trying to pass a drug test. it is not the same thing.

I appreciate the education and distinction, and yes I do understand that already.

We could expand further and go a lot deeper I'm sure.

However I fail to see the logical connection, in a contextual sense here, between your comments and my purely joking post about Bestbuds motivation for a T break being to imbibe plenty of kava instead.

 

[daoist]

I guess i was quoting the wrong person. It was more sort of advise to bestbuds because he has trouble with his t breaks.
I am not really sure if a 3 week kava bender is exactly healthy for you since it can cause liver failure or something.

 

[BestBuds]

I guess i was quoting the wrong person. It was more sort of advise to bestbuds because he has trouble with his t breaks.
I am not really sure if a 3 week kava bender is exactly healthy for you since it can cause liver failure or something.

Thanks for your concern. No Kava benders for me however. I have done my research and in moderation it's acceptable to me. I do think each person should make their own choices just like with cannabis.
With the help of @Alexis I was able to make some good purchases on the Kava Kava front.
A few shells of Kava definitely help get you through a rough t break and it's really a nice chill feeling.

 

[Alexis]

I guess i was quoting the wrong person. It was more sort of advise to bestbuds because he has trouble with his t breaks.
I am not really sure if a 3 week kava bender is exactly healthy for you since it can cause liver failure or something.

Well I can tell you outright categorically that that is incorrect.

Kava is largely unknown, and very misunderstood due to myth and misinformation.

"Noble" kava root, correctly prepared, poses no risk at all to the liver.

It just must never be combined with alcohol.

"Tudei" kava, is not peeled the same way, has a different composition, is not for daily or regular use, and is capable of causing liver issues.

Nobody in the worldwide kava community drinks tudei kava, except a small percentage, occassionally.

Very many people have been drinking kava every day for years or decades, in high quantities, with zero adverse health effects.

It's actually very anti-inflammatory and anti-cancerous.

Also, a few small studies were done a long time ago, using kava extracts. The interpretation of the results of these studies is partly what fuelled the misunderstanding and myth regarding liver harm.

Certain kava extracts are high in a different type of kavalactones, not present in prepared noble kava, or instant kava, which can cause trouble for the liver.

It's amazing how big the false elephant of misinfirmation about kava has gotten and stayed over time.

It's like 95% of people have not heard of kava.

Every time kava first "blips" on someone's radar, the first thing they hear, believe, think and say is exactly that- "isn't kava meant to be bad for your liver? I'm not sure it's safe for me."

Really! Almost every time. When for just about everybody, kava is actually perfectly safe, and like cannabis, has a powerful range of medicinal effects.

I will never support the suggestion or advice that kava is dangerous- per se, and to stay away.

I have been on a year long kava bender. No liver problems, no harm to health. Nobody reports any such things and I know of tons of people who have drunk kava far longer than myself.

 

[BestBuds]

Right! Like you could say "it was the Kava that did it" if you did get ill. You put shamans to shame with the amount of "feel goods" you consume
Your liver eats kavalactones for lunch. Literally!

 

[Alexis]

Right! Like you could say "it was the Kava that did it" if you did get ill. You put shamans to shame with the amount of "feel goods" you consume
Your liver eats kavalactones for lunch. Literally!

Lol! I speak with passion about kava for all the right reasons, and I realise how it is increasingly getting my goat, this dim level of awareness and understanding about it, based on innacurate, out of context data and myth, and so undeservedly so.

I mean, imagine this- 95% of people have never heard of cannabis. Each time it's mere existence dawns upon one's consciousness, they think or say "Cannabis-isn't that meant to be bad for your lungs/brain etc? I'm not sure it would be safe for me."

And looked no further! That is an entirely appropriate, fitting analogy, which I hope brings some logical perspective to my passion for sharing truth and knowledge of kava.

Would that not be a travesty, if cannabis passed most of the world by, unconsciously, because of misinformation, myth, misunderstanding, and also ultimately propaganda!

And lol @BestBuds those kavalctones are actually having to queue up to get past the backlog of lysergamides!

Right! Hope you all are doing well. Just finished my daily allergy steam inhalation nightmare routine. Cannabis edibles and I think some sort of kava are called for!

 

[Scrimshaw]

Well I didn't make the full 21 days, but since my goal was just to reset, I can honestly say mission accomplished after 11 days. The guide I posted was well thought-out and turned out to be helpful. Also to re-sensitize slowly via Dr. Sulak method.

I've always worked partially from home, but like many, being fully WFH allowed me some bad habits. I justified the time and expense in various ways, but knew I needed a reset from ~6-8 daily flower/rosin sammiches in my Herbie. Last night I took a few pokes (from an herb-only bowl) and I was GOOD, no need to finish the bowl. I'm feeling a much healthier respect for my meds. I expect my use will be 1/3 as before now that I'm paying attention. If it creeps up, I'll take a couple days to reset again. For me, it's about observing my usage and giving the good green the respect it deserves. Too easy to do more than you need when those Herbie sammiches are so damn tasty!

I had some sleep issues, but that's the case for me with or without herb. I didn't put anything away, it all just sat there by my desk the whole time with no major cravings once I decided to reset. I normally eat healthy and exercise regularly so I didn't have major changes other than the break.

I read back this thread and there's so much valuable info and real empathy here. Big thanks to @biohacker @Alexis @invertedisdead and everyone who poured heart and soul into this thread! In your honor, I'll be adding turmeric to this morning's green smoothie and enjoying some kava tonight!

 

[florduh]

I've been doing CBD only for the past 2 weeks after probably a year without missing more than a day of THC consumption. Just trying to reset my receptors a bit. I've been enjoying Kava 2-3 times per day. It's appetite suppression capabilities have allowed me to effortlessly lose like an inch and a half from my waist. And I already was in pretty decent shape for a 35 year old.

I'm not by any means a Kava expert, but one of the "strains" I use is a "heady", sativa like option. I'll generally have 2 tablespoons after my morning coffee. Won't eat until lunch. In the evening I'll have another 2 tablespoons of a more heavy "indica" type strain. No sleep issues, sans-THC.

Kava is a really amazing herb. Just tastes like absolute shit

Between stuff like Kava, and the wide availability of hemp flower/extracts, tolerance breaks have become effortless and fun.

 

[Alexis]

@Scrimshaw thanks a lot for your friendly mention and well done on holding out and now being able to enjoy your herb more with less, more appreciation and less dependance.

I'm not appreciated by all here by a long margin, but it's always nice when I do feel that.

I hope you enjoy your kava tonight. Be mindful that some people, not all, initially have to work through reverse tolerance before kava's lovely effects suddenly manifest.

For some people it can take 2 - 3 weeks daily use to suddenly break through.

I believe it is related to the effective state of our neurotransmitter system and MAO activity, "priming" essentially.

I did not have any reverse tolerance at all myself.
Be aware also not all kavas are equal. Avoid extracts. I don't recommend Micronised.

Instant kava, or noble root correctly prepared is the way to go. If you want any basic tips and directions on that just hit me up.

@florduh hey man. It really pleased me to hear kava has been helping you a lot as well. There really is very little contraindication, but you are right, unfortunately it doesn't make the most palatable beverage lol!

But that varies a lot and depends heavily on the "Cultivar" (kava's term for "Strain").

Some are surprisingly palatable, others can be grotesque.

I'm right with you as well on the whole "heady" (Sativa like) and "heavy" (Indica like) thing.

I too, mix and match between heady and heavy Cultivars.

One I opened last night, very heady, and really easy to drink, lovely strong effects:
https://www.thekavaroots.com/products/tongan-family-reserve

A superb Tongan kava. Out of stock atm but I think will be in stock again next week. It is truly one of the best kavas in the world.

And here is an excellent heavy Fijian, again worldbeating stuff I swear, 14.76% kavalactones- like 31% thc weed, relatively. Also very easy to drink.

Soon to be restocked.

Koro Island Kava | Fiji Kava | Art of Kava

This Koro Island Kava is a bit stronger in flavor than the previous batch. When you open the bag you are met with a light pepper scent balanced with earthy notes.

www.artofkava.com

I plan on using these two this evening after a steam inhalation shortly and some cannabis edibles.

 

[EverythingsHazy]

I read back this thread and there's so much valuable info and real empathy here. Big thanks to @biohacker @Alexis @invertedisdead and everyone who poured heart and soul into this thread! In your honor, I'll be adding turmeric to this morning's green smoothie and enjoying some kava tonight!

I'm always happy to see that this thread has helped so many fellow members. Congrats on your re-sensitization work, as well.

I'm not appreciated by all here by a long margin, but it's always nice when I do feel that.

From what I've seen, you've been one of the most empathetic members, here. Our interactions have always been cordial and often helpful for one of us. Some people are just bitter.

 

[Alexis]

I'm always happy to see that this thread has helped so many fellow members. Congrats on your re-sensitization work, as well.


From what I've seen, you've been one of the most empathetic members, here. Our interactions have always been cordial and often helpful for one of us. Some people are just bitter.

Thanks for saying Hazy, you are genuinely a nice guy and I have come to really value and appreciate your presence and participation here.

And don't take me wrong- I'm not saying I'm Hitler lol! Just not everyone's cup of tea, which is fine of course.

I do have a very good intuition and genuine psychic ability if I could learn how to tap into it whenever.

So I get the impression here and there where certain members do not appreciate my posts and thoughts.

But hey, this ain't no popularity contest, and all I will ever do is be my true honest self.

Tongan kava so far, Fijian Koro in the glass just not needed quite yet.

Brown Rice flour bread baking in the oven- time to turn in a few minutes....

 

[EverythingsHazy]

Thanks for saying Hazy, you are genuinely a nice guy and I have come to really value and appreciate your presence and participation here.

And don't take me wrong- I'm not saying I'm Hitler lol! Just not everyone's cup of tea, which is fine of course.

I do have a very good intuition and genuine psychic ability if I could learn how to tap into it whenever.

So I get the impression here and there where certain members do not appreciate my posts and thoughts.

But hey, this ain't no popularity contest, and all I will ever do is be my true honest self.

Tongan kava so far, Fijian Koro in the glass just not needed quite yet.

Brown Rice flour bread baking in the oven- time to turn in a few minutes....

Thanks, Alexis. The same goes for you.

That bread sounds pretty good! I've never had that before.

What's Fijian Koro?

 

[Alexis]

Thanks, Alexis. The same goes for you.

That bread sounds pretty good! I've never had that before.

What's Fijian Koro?

Hi. The Fijian Koro, is the heavy, indica like Fijian Kava from Koro Islands which I linked above. The 14.76% kavalactone one.

The brown rice flour bread cooked perfectly. It is a necessity. I cannot tolerate any bread at all, which I can buy. No standard, regular, yeasted bread.

Not even natural sourdough breads, or sprouted breads. The mucus production is unbearable. Soda bread too- the tiniest amount of bicarbonate of soda causes intolerable mucus production.

I can eat homemade chapattis and Parathas. But making them is just too physically exhausting for me every time, such is the nature of chronic fatigue.

So for years I have been experimenting with different flours to soak overnight, bake in the oven.

I soaked 950 grams brown rice flour, 4 teaspoons sunflower lecithin, just mixed with room temp filtered water until fully saturated and not too thick, nor overly watery.

Sat in our warm Airing cupboard for 24 hours.

Then, lined a big SS baking tray with parchment, I heated 40 grams coconut oil, added to the bread mix, with 1.5 big teaspoons of curry powder, 10 grams Redmond Real Salt, and once I was satisfied with the consistency and water volume, simply poured the mixture into the lined baking tray, baked in the oven until done.

Chickpea Flour works very well too. 50/50 with brown rice flour is good.

Amaranth flour, barley flour, sorghum flour also but not all as easy to bake right.

My life would be so much easier if I could just tolerate some basic bread, sourdough, sprouted, soda etc, without having to make my own un-authentic bread.

But it just isn't worth the sufferring, hence my own endeavours....

 

[mephisto]

@Alexis your shared experience is more valuable than perhaps you imagine. I have always enjoyed your posts, and even moreso the opportunity to compare notes via pm. Keep on motoring brotherman, you are an asset to those that need the guidance and a testament to determination.
This thread has been steady reading for me. I don't invest time in FC to be liked, per se. I value this place for the opinions and information. We all bring something to FC.
Thanks to all who brought something to share to this thread.

 

[EverythingsHazy]

@Alexis your shared experience is more valuable than perhaps you imagine. I have always enjoyed your posts, and even moreso the opportunity to compare notes via pm. Keep on motoring brotherman, you are an asset to those that need the guidance and a testament to determination.
This thread has been steady reading for me. I don't invest time in FC to be liked, per se. I value this place for the opinions and information. We all bring something to FC.
Thanks to all who brought something to share to this thread.

100%

 

[Alexis]

@Alexis your shared experience is more valuable than perhaps you imagine. I have always enjoyed your posts, and even moreso the opportunity to compare notes via pm. Keep on motoring brotherman, you are an asset to those that need the guidance and a testament to determination.
This thread has been steady reading for me. I don't invest time in FC to be liked, per se. I value this place for the opinions and information. We all bring something to FC.
Thanks to all who brought something to share to this thread.

Hey, thanks a lot but....you are liked my friend! Did you know that 4 likes per post average is somewhat of a milestone in the world of FC Likes?

It takes a particurlary type of active member in most cases- like a manufacturer, a moderator, otherwise the real serious, knowledgable vaporists.

Beyond that, it takes a high degree of general likeability.

So that is the category you fall into here, because I don't see you ever as touting yourself as a Jedi Vape master lol, although I know you know your vaporizers and all things very well, but just humbly go about your business.

And absolutely, I joined this forum for a few primary reasons- to share my experience vaporizing with different devices, to seek opinions and information, for therapy sake, but above all, to try and help all others possible in a general sense by sharing pieces of knowledge and experience I have picked up over time, whether "OT" or not (I left that open, it works either way lol).

But I was a dick for a while on these forums. I needed to examine myself. I did that finally, and simply became myself, how I stay. I think my re-entry into the world of psychedellics helped a lot with that process, from January 2019.

Thanks again for your warm, supporting words always @mephisto you are another lovely true hearted guy who I am very pleased to know here.

Kadavu Kava from Fiji tonight, plus some Tongan, has kicked my arse a bit strong kavas in house indeed!

 

[mephisto]

Still pushing against rt with kava, but I just ordered 2 kg upon your recommendation.

 

[Zoltani]

I find the kava discussion interesting, and may look into getting some in the future.