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You are definetly a true Dog lover ,Gonzo! If you hit one stem with every one of your dogs one after another you will probably O.D.Gonzo said:
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Well the more you support Underdog Aromatherapy ,the more awesome and more beautiful vapes are to come ..Gonzo said:After my Twig arrives I'm gonna have to stop following this thread
Dave is building his retirement off my retirement
So i bet it will only get harder for you to stand the beauty as the dogs evolve .
VaporBoxed
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Im excited to see theses twigs. i got me an UD on the way hopefully it will be here tomorrow. I also got a nice discount and will be getting the epic vape. Ill be posting a side by side comparison but from how the reviews have been so far the UD seems to be the harder hitting, better vape.
i got me an UD on the way hopefully it will be here tomorrow. I also got a nice discount and will be getting the epic vape. Ill be posting a side by side comparison but from how the reviews have been so far the UD seems to be the harder hitting, better vape.
Gonzo said:
Each one of the pieces have a nice cozy spot to call home.
Invoice sent..
I need to stop buying more equipment before I can start the retirement fund haha.. at this rate neither of us will be able to hang up our hats before 80! At least we'll be happy, well medicated 80 year olds.
darkrom said:Dave nice 420th post
TWIGS! lol
I've got a buddy interested in a lost dog so LMK when you have more info/prices for him. Hes usually broke, so I want to get him on the UD bandwagon while hes got cash!
Ahhh I didn't even know it was my 420th post otherwise I would have made sure it was some kind of epic post.. sigh..
Oh and thanks for the heads up re: your buddy, just sent you a message. Pics will hopefully be up later this eve or tomorrow.
Glairige
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I see that the core on the UD is constantly evolving, have you thought about ceramic insulation or a ceramic heating element similar to soldering irons or the ssv/dbv/lsv? I really think the ultimate setup for me would be a variable ceramic insulated/heating element log vape. Given current designs i think a variable temp power supply is as close as I'm going to get right now.
Basically, the ideal vape for me would be an SSV in a log vape. There's something about the tactile and visual sensations that the wood provides - it adds a ton to the experience for me.
Basically, the ideal vape for me would be an SSV in a log vape. There's something about the tactile and visual sensations that the wood provides - it adds a ton to the experience for me.
Glairige said:
Hi Glairige - Always nice to see a new face around these parts, it helps keep the conversation lively, and engineering talk is always fun!
Funny you mention ceramic heating elements I was just talking to someone else about those the other day. To keep a long story short I've thought about it and even made a prototype piece with one and it worked great. In the end the reason I went the way I did was for simplicity and cost effectiveness. On a small production scale like mine I found that using the ceramic heating element would increase my cost by $80-$120, require higher voltages than 12v and find something to do with the control box for the heating element which isn't particularly small. In the end I decided it's just hard to beat the simple old resistor design.
As far as the ceramic insulation goes, again yeah I've thought about it and could have used it in a similar fashion to how I think Rick is using it in the Rock Zaps. When I was revising the core last time I decided to go with a different solution though and instead use an air-gap internal to the core as insulation which so far is working very well. That all being said I actually do use a layer of ceramic insulation in my pieces between the core and the power plug to help reduce the heat radiated to the plug from the core.
Of course if someone is really really interested in a piece with a different type of heater or a non-standard size or type of core I'm always happy to do custom jobs. There was a time not long ago when all my jobs were custom ones and it's something I really enjoy!
Anyways welcome to the
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darkrom
Great Scott!
Glairige said:
Welcome to the party haha. I had a DBV and loved it until I got the underdog. The DBV just couldn't compete in any aspect IMO. Have you had any log vape before? It was literally the last of the styles (besides infared which I won't pay ever and is novelty to me) vaporization styles I've tried. I regret that so very much at this point because it is easily my favorite. Seeing as I've never had a ceramic insulation setup l like the Rock Zap, I'm curious what it actually adds to the vape at all? Is it supposed to help with heat retention or keep the wood insulated so it doesn't crack or something? The exterior of my underdog never gets anything more than "sorta warm" even after being on for hours, so IDK that I'd even want to make it heavier and uglier with ceramic if thats all it does. Something about the exotic woods would feel cheapened unless it did something of significant value IMO.
Glairige
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darkrom said:
Yeah, I collect log vapes, which is why I'm looking at the UD
. I've got 4x PD and 2x CRZ (although admittedly, I haven't tried these yet, which is why I won't answer your other question). Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love log vapes and when I first got one, it wouldn't be hyperbole to say it changed my life. The big problem with the PD is that it just doesn't perform through glass like the SSV. I absolutely love smoking with my SSV through glass. I suspect the CRZ will perform better because of the larger heatport, which is one of the reasons I'm kind of psyched about the UD.
Glairige said:
Obviously, follow the advice of the manufacturer! But one option for variable temperature is a power adapter at the higher-end of your UD's specified range (e.g., 13, 13.5 or 14 volts?) with a ?$10 solid-state DC dimmer switch, such as meant for cars/RVs/boats and LED use. For example, see http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-...=PCB&Page2Disp=/specs/ldp-2a_specs.htm#photos This will give you very accurate and reproducible power settings (the dimmer restricts the current/amps) and, thus, operating temperatures, from 100% to 0. Even for those perfectly satisfied with their current operating temperature, this may be useful for fine control use in cars/RVs/boats, with their electrical systems often running at ?14 volts.
[Note, regarding the cited example dimmer having specs of 12 volts, as confirmed by the company, of course this was made to be used with cars/RVs/boats (operating at ?14 volts)]; and also (confirmed by general knowledge of electricity), it is the Output Power (volts x amps= watts) that really matters, with this rated at 24 watts (should be a big safety margin)].
darkrom said:
I can't speak on Rick's behalf or the engineering behind the RZ but in general in this usage situation I would guess the insulation is there to shield the wood from the heat of the core and reduce/eliminate the charring of the wood which was a problem with classic log vapes. I believe the insulation also serves to, well, insulate the core and help ensure stable temps that aren't so affected by the density of the wood around it. I think that style of insulation and the method I've designed into the UD core are both effective and will keep the wood nice and protected in most cases and in most usage situations and are just different solutions to the same problem but both work.
Moving on I've got some pics from recent pieces out of the shop.. sorry for the long series of pics but it's been a busy week or two.
uber-Twigs:
Purpleheart (SOLD)
Blue Mahoe (SOLD)
Afzelia Burl (SOLD)
Big Leaf Maple (SOLD)
Big Leaf Maple #2 (SOLD)
Hard Rock Maple
Tineo Burl (SOLD)
Rosewood Twig (Lost Dog) (SOLD)
Cherry Twig (Lost Dog) (SOLD)
Lost Dogs (& picture of defect if applicable)
Ash (Lost Dog) (SOLD)
Sycamore (Lost Dog) (SOLD)
Ash (Lost Dog) (SOLD)
Ash (Lost Dog)
Ash (Lost Dog)
Ash (Lost Dog)
Misc Pieces
Simple Ash
Dyed Ash prototype (SOLD)
Well that's it for now, many, many more coming in the next couple weeks though.. Twigs, standard pieces and probably more Lost Dogs.
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I am in love with the Dyed ash prototype and the Purple heart twig . Can't decide which one is more beautiful to me cause they are both so different and unique.
. Can't decide which one is more beautiful to me cause they are both so different and unique.
Also loving Tineo Burl.
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Beautiful!!! I call dibs on the Rosewood Twig LOSTDOG If possible!!!
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+1Gonzo said:
What are you getting Gonzo ?
Gonzo
Slightly Stoopid
I decided to give BLM and Tineo Burl a good home. My wife was saying she wanted a small one for her and the Tineo looks perfect. I got a feeling these pups are gonna go fast. Any catch your eye? I stayed up late hoping Dave would post them tonight. I feel like those guys that camp outside BestBuy to wait for Black Friday
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Ha ha you must be one awesome dog loving familyGonzo said:I decided to give BLM and Tineo Burl a good home. My wife was saying she wanted a small one for her and the Tineo looks perfect. I got a feeling these pups are gonna go fast. Any catch your eye? I stayed up late hoping Dave would post them tonight. I feel like those guys that camp outside BestBuy to wait for Black Friday
. I like the Tineo too ,such a cutie.. your wife has an eye for log vapes for sure(not that you can go wrong with any of the UDs),this one is going to be very comfortable and light which means very fast heat up and heavy punch . I think i am in love with the Prototype but i might wait till the next batch to see the new beauties and have wider choice.
Gonzo
Slightly Stoopid
I think of these beauties as art and am a true believer that once a piece of art speaks to you to go ahead and get it. We had been waiting patiently for this next batch, thats why we were ready to pull the trigger. That Prototype is definitely one of the more unique log vapes that I've seen. Can't wait to see the next batch. Unfortunately, I'm not in the market although... you never know when that next piece will call out my name
although... you never know when that next piece will call out my name
Glairige
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this is a complete non-sequitur, so please feel free to shoot me down if necessary. Would it be possible to make a power supply or a DC trans that could provide reliable 12V 1amp DC power to multiple vapes? It'd be nice to have a 1 plug multi-vape solution to power a plethora of different vapes. Anyone know of something like this?