The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

[Stu]

My BW mini is 11". It was a prototype, so that's why it has the extra slits. The diameter of the piece is pretty small (I don't have it in front of me, but it's about a 1" diameter) so I've never thought about using the triple donut as an ice pinch, but if you got the right size of ice cubes, I think it would work, yes. I'll have to give that a try. However with just a little bit of ice melt, the water level would probably get too high. This type of diffusion uses so little water that a little more, or less will mess it up.

Cheers!

Stu

 

[warren79]

Ok soooo an hour ago I unpacked my brand new EQ.

Unwrapped everything in record time. Done the initial setup process. I only had shwag and hash that I ground up. I packed the cyclone half with shwag(prob-0.4g) and packed about 0.1g in the elbow with some hash grains sandwhiched inbetween. Put it on the HIGHEST temp (I think) - 260 C.

Let the cyclone and elbow warm for about a minute, then blasted a bag with fan speed 1 for 3/4 of the bag then fan speed 3 for the other quarter of the bag.

Took 2 deep inhalations back to back, then breathed a bit after exhaling, took another deep pull and apon exhaling I was SOO FUCKING HIGH (the bag still had 20% thick vapour), coughnig my ass off. Got in my car, came to work FUUUUCKED UUUUP. But, no smell + some eyedrops and nobody suspects :-) ...what a fun day.

I thought it was smoke that was in the bag, THICK and DENSE, but the weed wasn't burned, rather just 30 dark brown and 70% light brown. Just wasn't as heavy as smoke and it was very very cool.

 

[GrooveVapor]

Hey guys am I going to be able to just plug this into the end of the whip on one of these? My girlfriend apparently bought me one for my birthday and its en route. Real psyched to get this to replace my VaporBros but would love to still be able to rip it through a bong without anything else needed. If needed I'll just get whatever it is though.

I feel a bag may make me forget bongs for awhile though

 

[Bluntcrush]

I just got home to find my Aqua Vape waiting for me! So it looks pretty simple to use...one end plugs into the whip with the elbow, the other end goes into the whip sans glass mouthpiece! Ingenious! For any of you that have used this: When you lay it down between hits will the water just spill out?? Thanks in advance!

As soon as I get some practice with it I will post my findings!

***here is my official review so far: http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=1652&p=3

I am digging it!

 

[FLskwat]

Ahah, same here:
http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=1652&p=3

And no it's a spill proof chamber (although if you put too much water and have a big pull you could get a little water in your mouth). You can use it on all your whip vapos. I even used it yesterday on my Cano (with a very little added tubing), and on my NO2, though I baught it for my SSV!

BTW: I use it AS a mouthpiece, no tubing+mouthpiece on the 2nd extremity, eventhough I can see someone doing this! This little toy is heaven!

 

[ttb3]

I get really good results with the bag setup. Ok results with just the whip. And pretty poor results with my vaporbong setup. I need some help! I've tried both cyclone and elbow hits and basically I'm just not getting thick vapor with the water setup (12" straight tube). I'm using the same length tubing that came with the unit. Should I make it smaller? Will that make a difference? How hard are you supposed to draw with the water setup? Any tips to getting those thick, milky hits like I saw a video for earlier in this thread?

 

[Tstat]

Wow, man... turn it up to 220, turn the fan on for a few minutes, turn fan off and connect bong. If that does not work for you, then I would say your medicine may not be that great. It really makes a difference if you have high quality herbs with lots of trich

I also raised my screen on the cyclone bowl with a stainless steel wire. I never use the elbow anymore and I don't have to put much in the bowl at all. Oh, and no stirring...

 

[PSmizzle]

Whats up everyone. Thanks for all the helpful advice. I've been reading this fourm for a while now. You guys influenced which vapes I bought, and I couldn't be more greatful. No more combustion. Just vape.

 

[CutePanda]

I use the elbow pack method for the whip and get 2 huge thick clouds at 215c. Make sure you rip the whip slowly until you can feel the vapor build up in your lungs and then inhale all that goodness for as long as you can. I then dump the elbow into the cyclone and rip it really hard before putting it into my ABV bag.

I've tried using lower temperatures, but I realized that I like 215c the best because I like to go for the big bang.

 

[VaporNation]

Do you guys prefer running the fan while inhaling the vapor through the whip attachment? Or do you prefer it with the fan off?

 

[PSmizzle]

I always start with fan off/ 215 C. Gives me great rips.

 

[luvnthevapor]

Man I am still waiting on my EQ. I have been checking in frequently on the Ebay site to watch the shipping progress. I have already messaged the Ebay retailer asking if there was a delay. I was told no warehouse work on the weekend, snow delay for USPS, blah blah blah. My EQ was still in the state it was being shipped from TODAY. I am being sooooo impatient cant wait to try this thing out. I am beginning to think I should buy some extra glass pieces/whip accessories while I have the money. Kind of afraid I might break an elbow or something the first day.
Overall I am really impressed by all the advances in vape technology. Five or so years ago, I had only seen box vapes, and the cheap ones with little glass globes on top of the heating element.

 

[oldiebutgoodie]

I get really good results with the bag setup. Ok results with just the whip. And pretty poor results with my vaporbong setup. I need some help! I've tried both cyclone and elbow hits and basically I'm just not getting thick vapor with the water setup (12" straight tube). I'm using the same length tubing that came with the unit. Should I make it smaller? Will that make a difference? How hard are you supposed to draw with the water setup? Any tips to getting those thick, milky hits like I saw a video for earlier in this thread?

Assuming no issues with technique, it could be the quality of the herb and/or the characteristics of your bong & setup. IME not only does lower herb quality have the effect of less results with each available method (bag, whip, bong), but also the herb may have proportionately greater effect when using one method vs another.

Vapor/air ratio, travel path, temperature, displacement, and draw are all different factors using a bong compared to the bag. You might try eliminating or reducing these differences as much as possible. Theoretically then you should get about the same result. Try filling the cyclone abt half with new herb plus a small elbow pack. Use the mini-whip to the bong or even the upside-down method (where the Q is placed to the bong's female joint). Set the temperature to ~230C. Don't use the fan. (In my tests changing the amount of water had negligible effect, but it wouldn't hurt to try.) Take several small cigar puffs to fill the vapor path and then take a long slow pull. You've now made your bong behave similar (and superior) to the bag method, and the results should at least be comparable. If they aren't, try high quality herb; if the results are still not comparable then you may need a different delivery setup.

Just my

 

[VaporNation]

I always start with fan off/ 215 C. Gives me great rips.

Isn't 215C a little too hot to be vaporizing? I would assume that it would produce a pretty thick cloud of vapor though! lol

I typically vaporizer around 180C or so.

 

[oldiebutgoodie]

Do you guys prefer running the fan while inhaling the vapor through the whip attachment? Or do you prefer it with the fan off?

I use the fan but only because I have temperamental bronchial tubes. I just use Fan 1 though, because 2 let alone 3 greatly increases the air/vapor ratio and it also (for me at least) feels like sort of being force-fed; the higher fan speeds also decrease temperature a bit and I don't want to have to set that any higher than I have to. I turn on the fan and wait a moment until I see vapor exiting the mouthpiece (i.e., wait for air to clear from the whip) then take the mouthpiece and inhale both nose & mouth in sync with the fan (inhaling is more challenging for me if I have to pull hard), in effect letting my lungs fill like the Q does the bag. Then exhale back up thru my nose.

Only took me about a hundred different tries (incl w/bag & bong) to find this method works best for me.

 

[oldiebutgoodie]

I always start with fan off/ 215 C. Gives me great rips.

Isn't 215C a little too hot to be vaporizing? I would assume that it would produce a pretty thick cloud of vapor though! lol

I typically vaporizer around 180C or so.

Diff users have diff sweet spots, and the herb can make a huge diff, too. But looking at the herb elements breakdown by temp though, appears that approx 180-190 gets to one level, 200-210 the next level, and 230 to a third level. For me, unless I want just a soft head high, and given the herb I've got, to get a strong lift I need to get to at least 210.

 

[CutePanda]

If I had to recommend a starting temperature for a new EQV user, I would say 200c. I personally go to the moon using 215c. And when I do blow up balloons for 3 or more people, I do so ONLY on fan speed 1. This is because a forum member here ran some tests on the EQV temperature and fan settings and his conclusion was that fan speed 1 is the most efficient. And I notice that it produces a thicker vapor bag than fan speed 2 and 3, but if you use fan speed 2 and 3, you may get more bags out of your herb.

 

[PSmizzle]

I know it sounds high, but when I do elbow packs, 215 gives me really thick, flavorful hits. I'm gonna try dropping it down to a lower temp when I get off work. I'm still new at this, but I haven't used combustion for about a month.

 

[ttb3]

Thanks for all the tips guys. I was running it too low. I think my unit just runs cooler. Been getting nice milky hits all evening!

 

[Stu]

I used to try to vape at the 185 or 190 mark when I first got my Q, but lately I've realized that 220 - 230 is really my unit's sweet spot. If I want a less stoney / more heady high, I'll just use a sativa and take some nice tasty 220 rips. I don't really see the point in leaving so many goodies in the herb just for making edibles from my avb (although I do still make them). Why wait until later to enjoy what I'm ingesting right now?

It's all presonal preference and also the fact that these numbers don't really mean shit and some units readouts are probably way off from a different unit. So I think each unit probably has it's own sweet spot, and so does each user.

So I say to all: "Enjoy the wonderful journey to finding your Q's sweet spot! It is sure to be a pleasurable quest!"

 

[sparknhopper]

Hey guys. I need a little help here. Just bought new vape for me and the wifey for valentines. Did some research around and decided that the Extreme Q was it. We've used volcanoes in the past and fell in love with vaping and the bags. The primary reason we went with the Q was the price (half a 'cano).

I'm not sure if there is something wrong with ours or not, but it just isn't doing it for us. We probably went through about half a g in a span of about 2 hours, and sure didn't feel like we did that much. I know it's not the herb, cause it's from the same stash we've been smoking for a week now.

When we used a volcano, all we could remember was how thick and cloudy the bags would get, and how they would fill in about 30 seconds. This is completely opposite from what we are getting.

We've tried all the tips on forum, like preheating for 5-15mins, tried different temps from 200-220, etc. I'm starting to think that there might be something wrong with it. For starters, the fan just doesn't blow for crap. It takes FOREVER to fill a bag. On the highest setting, it took 7 minutes to fill. I actually took the whole thing apart (I'm an Engineer, couldn't help it), to see if something looked amiss. After putting the main pieces back together I was able to get the fill time down to 6 minutes. That was with NO herb loaded what so ever. I checked the spec on the fan, and with very little head pressure, it should put out ~2.3 cfm. I'm definitely not getting that. I also pulled the fan off an ran it and it certanly blows a ton more unmounted than it does through the tube.

So I'm kind of at the end of the road with things to check and wondered if any of you guys could help me out. I started looking at the 93 page thread on the Q, but the wife told me that I better not read the whole thread or she's taking it back, cause it would be rediculous to have to do that in order to get it to work the way it should.

In any event, we are a little dissapointed, and was hoping that you guys could help.

Thanks in advance!

Cheers!

 

[Nycdeisel]

What fan setting do you use?
Let me just say that I didnt read your entire post yet so forgive me if anything I say is inaccurate.

 

[sparknhopper]

I timed it a couple of times. Fan speed 3 = 7 mins before/6mins after tightening it up a little. Speed 2 took 9 mins. No way did I wait for speed 1, could have rolled a burned a b!unt in that amount of time.

Well, after looking at it some more in pieces on my desk and playing with the fans, I think I know why it is taking so long to fill bags. The glass piece that covers the element has a melted lip on the end that is supposed to seal around the air inlet after the fan.

Look closely and you will see where this would cause air leakage into this tube.

So notwithstanding the fact that the fan is cavitating because the air outlet is so constricted, I'm losing a third of it out the side of the tube. Gonna try and call Arizer tomorrow and see if I can get a replacement.

Hopefully replacing that piece will help. I did also see that there is one speed higher fan in the same series by delta I could try. The only other thing that I might consider doing, assuming that I keep it, is to see if I can get a little better air path between the fan and the glass tube. The main housing is a nice cone that leads up to the tube, but dead smack in the middle are huge (relatively) plastic supports for the wires and element. Need to see if an alternate way to run those wires and hold it in place can be made to free up some of the area.

This thing is designed pretty cool though. Somebody obviously spent some time and money developing the individual circuit boards, firmware, and plastic injection molded pieces.

Cheers!

 

[warren79]

Had my EQ for 2 days now. Yesterday I slept at my GFs and the vape wasnt with me but we did get a joint from a friend. After smoking that joint I could feel the differance since I havent smoked for a few days....probably going to quit smoking for good real soon.

EQ has such dense vapour - this was really unexpected. Will play around with it some more before I make a hasty judgement though but so far its AWSOME.

 

[Tstat]

Yea, don't really go by the temp readout. It's only good to know what temp you like. Don't get hung up on what your readout says and what people tell you the different highs will be. Basically, the higher the temp, the quicker you receive your medicine. This is due to more material being vaped in a shorter time.

I think of it like a joint vs. bong rips. A huge bong hit gets you blasted really quick. Smoking a joint takes longer, not as much smoke gets to your lungs all at once. But in the end, your stoned either way.

I usually vape at 220. This produces HUGE hits through my beaker. But today I decided to step it down to 190. As I have read through some threads, and made some posts, I have been hitting the beaker. I lost track of time and how many hits I took. I just now noticed I am not getting any more vapor.

Vaked- just not as fast