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  1. MuushuPork

    MuushuPork Well-Known Member

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    I really wish we could have stickies in this forum.
     
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  2. flotntoke

    flotntoke thoroughly vaped

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    Me too, but IMO we only really need one...

    Yes.... I self quoted. Not that it is that prolific, but still tempted to add it at the top of every page!
     
  3. Ratchett

    Ratchett Delta 3D Studios Designer Accessory Maker

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    I try to use the search, but I often have a problem with the 4 character minimum requirement on search terms - can be a pain when trying to look up info about things like ABV
     
  4. FlyingLow

    FlyingLow Team NO SLEEP!

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    Stickies would be great.


    ...unfortunately flotntoke, as good as the search function is, it does not always provide the info I am searching for. A quick note from a friendly FC member often saves the trouble of sorting through a ton of non-informative posts and less useful chit chat.

    I do not have the quick start guide, I did not know if the input voltage information is contained within. I figured someone that has a unit might be able to shed more light than just referring me to a search box.
     
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  5. MuushuPork

    MuushuPork Well-Known Member

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    Yeah one per seperate forum prolly a better way to say it. I meant the whole of FC.
     
  6. flotntoke

    flotntoke thoroughly vaped

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    That can definitely get in the way, and so can very common terms (like "what" or "else" in what else do I need?). But fortunately, terms like glass, screen, adjust (or adjust-a-bowl), even stem or cord or time, yield plenty of results and would probably eliminate most of the repeat questions.

    Don't get me wrong.... no problem with asking questions - especially on specifics or issues some have when they first get their nano and are figuring it out. I know I'd be totally freaked out if after all the anticipation the nano came and wasn't working as I thought it should. Probably way too freaked out to deal with searching! So hope everyone continues to ask the questions.

    But if it's something that you think others may have asked, (like which stem or GonG, temp ranges, how long does it take to ship, what type of power converter/inverter, etc) the search function is your friend. Most of these types of questions can be answered with a quick search faster than the question can be typed.

    EDIT so as not to double post.....
    Please don't take this the wrong way @FlyingLow , but how many times would you say the exact same question could be asked before it starts getting just a bit annoying? Once a page? Once every 5 pages? Once every 10?

    This forum is awesome! Not just the nano thread but pretty much all of it. IMO, not just because you can ask a question and someone will usually respond - but more so because of the wealth of knowledge that is already out here.

    I ask questions, too. Not so much on the nano but other things (just asked a few on the solo thread before getting one a couple weeks ago), but searches answered many more before I had to type a post.

    BTW.... you may want to check this "Quick start guide". Doesn't really get much easier than that! It's on the same site you just ordered from.

    Really trying not to be a prick here (and please excuse me if that's how it comes off), but if I'm dropping a couple hundred on anything I'm going to do a little homework and find out what I'm spending my hard earned cash on. That link to the epicvape page I just posted is the 7th Google hit when searching on "enano quick start". Adding the hyphen "e-nano" makes it the fourth.

    ANOTHER EDIT
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    For what it's worth, I think Andy may be adding an extended FAQ to the epicvape site soon. Hopefully it, and adding the same to vaporpedia will eliminate much of this. When most questions come up, a simple link or pointing in the right direction will answer that question and probably several more the asker hasn't even thought about yet.
     
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  7. Enchantre

    Enchantre A short, pithy statement

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    I'm having a fantasy right now, where one of the Mods could add a post to the BEGINNING of this thread, with the "Best of..." as links to the posts that answer the basic half dozen main questions.

    Oh, and Caligula's videos, of course.

    Repeat for all highly popular and prolific vaporizer threads.
     
  8. ACE OF VAPE

    ACE OF VAPE Vape outside the box Manufacturer

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    I think andy should have an exhaustive encyclopedia/database of questions with answers section on the epicvape website for newbies and experts alike. Oh, and searchable.
    Just sayin....
     
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  9. flotntoke

    flotntoke thoroughly vaped

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    That would be awesome!!

    But really... who is going to read the 290 pages here to find and link the "best" posts, let alone the 1160 pages of the solo thread (or other similarly long ones)?

    I dunno.... maybe I'm just more of the self-service type than others. Probably just another function of becoming a cranky old man. :myday:

    Back in my day you had to go to the library, walking uphill both ways with no shoes, to search a card catalog to find info. And, High Times was the only real source for this type of info. Seldom carried at libraries, and never included in search materials. So, the ability to go online and google - or search on FC - still gives me a bit of wonder-ment and I just can't get why others don't just do the same.

    Now we're talking!!! And, he'd better get on it instead of lurking around this joint.:rofl:
     
  10. Ratchett

    Ratchett Delta 3D Studios Designer Accessory Maker

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    Given the subject matter, I think any official encyclopedia wouldn't be able to cover the content in sufficient detail.

    An unofficial un-sponsored wikipedia on the other hand might be a better place for the content (with backups made often in case anything happens to the host, of course)
     
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  11. MuushuPork

    MuushuPork Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure you could find a few people at least who would love to swim through the ocean of info on this site and fish out all the good stuff.
     
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  12. Stu

    Stu Maconheiro Staff Member

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    Don't forget about our very own wiki Vaporpedia. Anyone can update it with current info. You just need to PM vtac for access.

    :peace:
     
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  13. pakalolo

    pakalolo RoboMod v3.17 (ticking) Staff Member

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    You've been moved, 12 posts worth.

    Stickies are only good if you have one or two of them. What we need are highlights threads. I've been thinking about this because it's a general problem. For example, the Solo thread is over 1100 pages and counting.

    Wikipedia is a good idea but most people won't notice it and those who do are not likely to be engaged enough to update it. I haven't updated the MFLB entry for at least a year.

    This is the key to what I'd like to do.

    This is almost exactly what I want to do. It wouldn't be a sticky, it would be a "Best of" thread, one for each large thread. We couldn't have this solution in the past because a post could exist in only one thread. The latest version of the software allows moderators to copy posts, and so a "Best of" thread is possible.

    The issues are how to determine which posts qualify, and how to implement it so that there won't be a huge workload for the moderators. Obviously, there is a lot of work to set one up, but administering it afterwards should not be too difficult. For now, anyway, I'd have to handle the load because I haven't asked any of my fellows if they want to take on the job. Maybe I've already said too much. I should open a discussion with them first.
     
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  14. flotntoke

    flotntoke thoroughly vaped

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    Pak, this would be AWESOME!!! Sounds like a lot of work, though. Hope you guys can make it happen.

    I'm working on something for the nano now, so hit me up if you would like me to try to help on this one.
     
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  15. TeeJay1952

    TeeJay1952 Well-Known Member

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    Reddit votes answers up.
    But 1000 bricklayers can't tell a violinist what to do, and visa versa.
     
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  16. EveryDayAmnesiac

    EveryDayAmnesiac I am a stupid asshole.

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    I'd be more than happy to create a "Best of" thread for any of the threads I've started. I don't know if you've ever noticed this, but they're CRAZY popular.

    It's going to be tough to edit out any of my own posts though...

    :ko:
     
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  17. Ratchett

    Ratchett Delta 3D Studios Designer Accessory Maker

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    As the database developer at work for a small IT support business, I have had a similar issue with my ticket tracking database. It's full of technical information, but stuck in complicated trouble tickets for customers.

    The solution for me was to implement a flagging system in which my engineers could flag specific notes within a ticket which would be "Knolwedge-base Worthy" - this data is then processed and used by other engineers to solve simple customer problems without escalating the ticket.

    Why not implement some sort of "Best of" button for users to flag posts which may be reviewed by mods and added to the list if desired (or enough people flag that post)
     
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  18. pakalolo

    pakalolo RoboMod v3.17 (ticking) Staff Member

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    We don't have voting. We have likes and they're not a reliable indicator of what we want. Ultimately, a moderator would decide if the post would get copied. Not every thread would get a highlights thread either. The idea here is to make it easier to find the quality information that is buried in long threads.

    We have to work with what xenForo gives us, and unfortunately there is no such button so we have to contrive a procedure to emulate one.
     
  19. Enchantre

    Enchantre A short, pithy statement

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    ...could we just "report" it and say "this is a Best Of!"?

    or would that just mangle the point system all up?
     
  20. MuushuPork

    MuushuPork Well-Known Member

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    First step is to find out which OP's will work for free :D
     
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  21. pakalolo

    pakalolo RoboMod v3.17 (ticking) Staff Member

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    It wouldn't mess up the point system but it might clog up the reports queue. It is an option we'll discuss but I suspect we'll use a different approach.
     
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  22. TeeJay1952

    TeeJay1952 Well-Known Member

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    Offer manufacturers the ability to maintain a FAQ at top of thread.
     
  23. pakalolo

    pakalolo RoboMod v3.17 (ticking) Staff Member

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    Thanks for the suggestion, but this is not practical. For example, the Solo has given us our largest thread, one which suffers greatly from redundant posts due to answering the same question over and over. Arizer. manufacturer of the Solo, does not participate in FC.
     
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  24. MuushuPork

    MuushuPork Well-Known Member

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    Im willing to handle the Pinnacle pro duties. Im guessing just go through and write down post nimbers? Id like guidelines before investing the time.

    Edit: couldnt we just enlist the regulars in each thread to pm a leader for each? Just have the leader gather and sift to compliment their own research?
     
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  25. pakalolo

    pakalolo RoboMod v3.17 (ticking) Staff Member

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    I'm open to suggestion as to how posts are nominated. Right now I'm leaning towards a nominations thread. Posts would be limited to one or more links to nominated posts. Anyone could nominate a post, but it would be best if at least one person reviewed the whole thread looking for qualifying posts. If more than one person volunteers then the thread could be split up.

    I'm on the road for two weeks starting tomorrow, so getting this started could be slow.
     
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