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  1. grampa_herb

    grampa_herb CO2 oil bigot

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    There is blood on my hands. It was a real struggle and flesh was torn, but finally I got my new car speakers installed. A ride without tunes is almost, dare I say it, immoral!

    Now Mistuh Lesh, puh-leaze go easy on my new Pioneers....
     
  2. Poostuff

    Poostuff Well-Known Member

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    You rarely hear of people quashing anything other than rumours.
    I think lawyers quash things all the time but a lot of other non lawyer stuff must be quashable too.
    I’m going to start looking around the house for some things that might need quashing.
    The last thing I want is to find out is that I suddenly need to quash a whole heap of stuff at a really inconvenient time.
     
  3. CuckFumbustion

    CuckFumbustion Lo and Behold! The transformative power of Vapor.

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    There are several more refined methods by others more experienced than myself on the forum somewhere.:sherlock: I found out about freezing your ISO and ABV two months ago. Plus, ISO is flammable, etc.
    I have experience with ISO stoves. That's my disclaimer. For info only. Anyway on to my method....:freak:
    I have a heating tray that I preheat the pyrex with and I use 99% pure ISO for the wash. No risk of flame or high extremes with heat using a heating tray as opposed to an open flame. It's all about evaporation.
    Then I pull my bag of ABV and bottle of ISO from the freezer. Usually an hour for the ISO, longer for the ABV. Mix both in a french press and stir for 30 seconds. I eyeball the measurements. Pretty much 1oz more ISO than I think is being covered by the ABV.
    Press-squeeze all the liquid onto the pyrex dish. Allow time and evaporation to occur. Shacking the tray occasionally so there are no hot spots.
    When it looks 9/10's evaporated, unplug the hot plate-food warmer. Allow the pan too cool and the remainder of ISO to evaporate from the remaining heat inside the pyrex dish. A short time later, Scrape with a SS guitar pick while the pan is still a little warm for easier scraping. I try not to mush everything into a ball and allow the bits to be flakes. More surface area for evaporation as well.

    Hope this helps @Summer

    @Mr. Gweilo 420, U Wot M8? U havin a giggle? :lol: Like my impression? Sorry, I couldn't resist having a giggle myself. Cheers from Upstate NY!! Vapor Bliss from pole to pole!
     
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  4. pockets916

    pockets916 North side City of Trees

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    Holy shit looks like ww3 is about to kick off.
     
  5. OldNewbie

    OldNewbie Well-Known Member

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    From the last strike--which is sure to be repeated soon.

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  6. grokit

    grokit well-worn member

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  7. grampa_herb

    grampa_herb CO2 oil bigot

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    An Appeal to James Mattis
    Col. W. Patrick Lang Posted onApril 9, 2018


    I beseech you, sir, to consider the possibility that the supposed chlorine gas attack at Douma, Syria may have been a carefully constructed propaganda fraud on the part of the rebels encircled in Douma. Such a fraud would have as its purpose the elicitation of exactly the kind of response that we are seeing in the Western media. The rebels have been defeated in East Gouta Their fighters and families are being evacuated to Turkish occupied Jarabulus by air-conditioned bus. How would it benefit the Syrian government to make such an attack in this situation?

    I hope that you will determine the exact facts of what occurred at Douma before any action is taken.

    I recommend that you send someone competent to Syria to make an on the ground investigation.

    W. Patrick Lang
    Colonel (Ret.) US Army
     
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  8. Trypsy Summers

    Trypsy Summers Well-Known Member

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    I guess this is just me;

    Just read a story, where the doctors want to turn off life support on a baby, but the parents are fighting tooth and nail to keep the machine turned on, the issue has ended up in court (and all that drama..)
    Where the doctors are arguing about 'Quality of Life' of the baby, as the reason they want to switch off the life support! Okay:hmm:!!!

    So lets fast forward...

    I then read a story where an old person with issues, who wants to end their life cos of the constant pain and suffering; i.e. 'Quality of Life' issues, but now the doctors are in court arguing against it! :mental:

    So now I'm just left scratching my head at the irony.... Of how upside down this really is!

    We have doctors wanting to kill off young people (even babies) against - wishes, but yet they want to preserve the (living hell) misery of old people - against their wishes.... WTF!!:hmm:


    My Random thought for today.....

    "No matter how much you lay down and let people walk all over you, there are still those amongst them who will say; "you ain't laying flat enough!"


    Live Your Life :luv:


    Pure Peace:leaf:
     
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  9. Trypsy Summers

    Trypsy Summers Well-Known Member

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    Further to the above....

    The below is the headline from the tabloid Daily Mail

    Hospital stand-off erupts as parents of terminally ill Alfie Evans try to fly him to ITALY before his life-support can be switched off - but 'police threaten to arrest boy's father for ASSAULT if he moves him'
    • Alfie is in a 'semi-vegetative state' in Alder Hey Hospital, Liverpool, suffering from a rare brain condition
    • His father Tom Evans claims that he is legally allowed to take Alfie from hospital but police were stopping him
    • Protesters have gathered outside Alder Hey Hospital in Liverpool this evening to support Alfie and his parents
    • It is understood the toddler's parents want to take him to Bambino Gesu Paediatric Hospital in Rome, Italy
    • Couple have lost cases at Supreme Court and European Court of Human Rights amid support from the Pope
    • High Court judge reviewed new video footage of Alfie but ruled that his life support should be switched off (source daily mail)
    Now maybe I am being simplistic here, but here goes...

    If the hospital have decided they cannot do anything for the poor infant, then why are they still holding onto him?

    If the hospital have decided to switch off the life support, then why can't the parents (as a last resort) take him to the Italian Hospital?:sherlock::hmm:

    Why are the police threatening the father with arrest for assault! (who is he actually assaulting?)

    I am hoping someone (perhaps far more in tune with the system) can explain (the un-explainable) to me...

    So how does this work? Your kid is in the medical facility, they tell you, we can't do anything for your kid! So then as most (caring) parents would, you decide to go somewhere else, to exhaust every possible avenue, you know, like decent folks use to do - back in the day as the minimal to protect your family, and then the Hospital are telling you, that "you can't move him from here, even though all we're gonna do is turn of his life support," then I'm not at all sorry for causing any offence by simply asking, "How the f*ck does that even work?":mental::mental::mental::worms:

    Unless.....

    Your kid ain't your kid!:hmm:

    Cos how else can it work? When you as the parent (seeking the best for your child) is told that even though the STATE can't preserve his/her life, you as the parent are not entitled to try and save their life, and as the parent, therefore have to stand by, whilst they do that (switch off the machine) on their own behalf!

    This wrong on a few levels:shrug:

    Not saying:\, Just saying:|, Without saying:2c:

    Pure Peace:leaf:
     
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  10. Summer

    Summer Well-Known Member

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    I'm with you @Trypsy Summers, the boy is the property of his parents not the government. If Italy thinks they can help him, why not try, nothing to lose & since odds are slim, at least his parents will know that they made every possible effort. I remember them wanting to bring him to NY, but don't remember why it did pan out -- maybe they couldn't find a medical unit that thought they could help him??? Don't remember. Sorry, too lazy to google at this time. If anyone wants to post the backstory, feel free.

    Besides, how can physically moving/removing a dying kid be assault, by the father no less. The world has become so ass-backwards in it's thinking. :mental: Govermental overreach is becoming truly frightening. Thank God, us here in the States still at least have the Constitution. At least that hasn't gone under yet. As my father would have said one of three things: "It's a sad state of affairs," "Who ever thought it would come to this" or "No good dirty dog(s)." Means a lot coming form a WW2 vet.
     
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  11. Trypsy Summers

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    To be honest , @Summer, I'm here using my critical faculties, and I'm at a total loss as to how this is happening, but I guess this is just 'STATE' control in action, as you quite rightly state, "why not try, nothing to lose & since odds are slim," exactly the situation where real life flesh and blood people are spurred into attempting to try something (ANYTHING) to help their loved ones, well it use to be like that - back in the day! :myday:

    I just don't understand this, the attitude of the HOSPITAL/STATE is (or might as well be) "look just go round the block and walk it off!!":mental::uhh:

    Anyway, I hope you have a great day (or at the very least, a better one than me);)

    Pure Peace:leaf:
     
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  12. OldNewbie

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    I am not a Catholic as I believe the Reformation to be True. But...(Emphasis mine):

    http://w2.vatican.va/content/john-p...s/hf_jp-ii_enc_25031995_evangelium-vitae.html

    4. Unfortunately, this disturbing state of affairs, far from decreasing, is expanding: with the new prospects opened up by scientific and technological progress there arise new forms of attacks on the dignity of the human being. At the same time a new cultural climate is developing and taking hold, which gives crimes against life a new and-if possible-even more sinister character, giving rise to further grave concern: broad sectors of public opinion justify certain crimes against life in the name of the rights of individual freedom, and on this basis they claim not only exemption from punishment but even authorization by the State, so that these things can be done with total freedom and indeed with the free assistance of health-care systems.

    All this is causing a profound change in the way in which life and relationships between people are considered. The fact that legislation in many countries, perhaps even departing from basic principles of their Constitutions, has determined not to punish these practices against life, and even to make them altogether legal, is both a disturbing symptom and a significant cause of grave moral decline. Choices once unanimously considered criminal and rejected by the common moral sense are gradually becoming socially acceptable. Even certain sectors of the medical profession, which by its calling is directed to the defence and care of human life, are increasingly willing to carry out these acts against the person. In this way the very nature of the medical profession is distorted and contradicted, and the dignity of those who practise it is degraded. In such a cultural and legislative situation, the serious demographic, social and family problems which weigh upon many of the world's peoples and which require responsible and effective attention from national and international bodies, are left open to false and deceptive solutions, opposed to the truth and the good of persons and nations.

    The end result of this is tragic: not only is the fact of the destruction of so many human lives still to be born or in their final stage extremely grave and disturbing, but no less grave and disturbing is the fact that conscience itself, darkened as it were by such widespread conditioning, is finding it increasingly difficult to distinguish between good and evil in what concerns the basic value of human life.
     
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  13. Trypsy Summers

    Trypsy Summers Well-Known Member

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    My friend,

    I am not Catholic, my issue re this particular story, is how can the STATE be able to remand the child, when they have no intention to try and preserve the child's life? Indeed the opposite is the case, the HOSPITAL want to turn off the life support. Why not allow the parents to take the child elsewhere for a last throw of the dice? Or even allow them to take the child home to die, if that is the wish of the parents. Even the vet gives you that option.

    The issue here is whether the STATE can determine a child's fate, i.e turn off a machine, whilst denying the parents the right to try to preserve its life or just take him out of there, its not as if they're doing anything, sounds like they're doing sweet fuck all....!

    That is what no one is really explaining here, (or if they are, then they're talking in a gibberish that I and most reasonable and sensible people can not decipher



    Pure Peace :leaf:
     
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  14. OldNewbie

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    The STATE does it because it has no conscience. The doctors? Perhaps the joke is true.

    What's the difference between God and a doctor?
    God doesn't think he is a doctor.
     
  15. His_Highness

    His_Highness In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

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    Life support.......what a catch-22. You can legally decline life support but the inverse is also true....once someone is on life support you have to go through the legalities to remove it.

    Some of the cases filed to remove someone from life support have gone on for years and if you were to allow your frustration to get the best of you and pull that plug before the legalities were settled you could end up prosecuted. Doesn't matter if the person on life support had all the proper paperwork to decline life support....once it's turned on you got get a lawyer to turn it off.
     
  16. OldNewbie

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    Making it all legal-like varies by jurisdiction. Lawyers don't usually get involved unless there is a disagreement between stakeholders on the best course of action.

    In a small town, there is never enough work for a single attorney. But, more than enough for two.
     
  17. mephisto

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    Always a hoot, @OldNewbie, I remember a different version of that joke using Jesus and Bono.
    Still funny!
    Here in DE the legislators are pushing the RTD addendum with many protestors decorating the town with their opinion. Terrible to think you cannot decide for your loved one.
     
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  18. Summer

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    ???
     
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  19. Summer

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    Changing the subject, I want you guys to take a look at the trending mj stories HERE. First the Canadian border crossing, then the Trump headline & the 2 Colorado stories. All very interesting.
     
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  20. Trypsy Summers

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    You, meant "doesn't think she's a doctor".... Don't think 'god' would have such a left sided (male) ego - to begin with ...:hmm:

    Funny you've just said that; as I actually I heard a Chinese saying recently, relating to doctor's, along the lines of ;
    If you have a doctor that cures you from full blown disease or severe illness, then you have the services of a crap doctor
    If you have a doctor that can alleviate symptoms before you get either a full blown disease or severe illness, then you have the services of a mediocre doctor
    However,
    If you have a doctor who ensures that you're in balance and harmony thus denying the symptoms, (never mind the dis-ease and severe illness) to ever take a foothold then you have a good doctor....

    To be honest; I rarely go to the doctor for anything, I prefer to try and apply the balance and harmony approach. This year I'm growing Wild Lettuce as I hear it is one of the most effective of painkillers,
    and its natural! Cos other than cutting something out, (something that I probably couldn't do myself) I certainly would not trust them with anything other than the simplest of processes.

    Don't get me wrong, there may well be some good doctors doing things, but nowadays, at least round here, all they do is dole out drugs on the behalf of Big Pharma, and most of them don't even know anything about the drugs their supplying!

    The Canadian Border story is thought provoking to say the least, (wonder if they are like that with Dutch visitors?) So if they ask you if you've vaped, smoked etc, and you say no, then what? Do they take bloods and all that before banning you, etc!!
    As for Josephine County Officials - Fuck em!! I skimmed the article, and it makes no sense, unless you're just a hater, with a garbage can where your heart ought to be.... On the face of it nonsense, but alas makes perfect sense.

    A bit like the current wave of bombing now going on Syria, on the face of it madness, until you realize they're just doing their masters bidding!

    Not saying (anything) Just saying,(something) Without saying (nothing)

    Pure Peace:leaf:

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  21. grampa_herb

    grampa_herb CO2 oil bigot

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    First we are leaving Syria, now we are bombing Syria. Trump seems to be a cock-tease for us non-interventionist types...
     
  22. grokit

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    I'm pretty sure it's so he can say that we took out their (fictional) chemical weapons plants.
    Then we can (hopefully, finally) leave :doh:

    I read that syria's soviet-era defenses shot down 71 out of 104 of our* missiles,
    and that the gas attacks were a fiction perpetrated by the british.

    It sounds like he's just disposing of old munitions to distract from current events!

    It's a dog & pony show all the way :2c:

    :ninja::myday:

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  23. grampa_herb

    grampa_herb CO2 oil bigot

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    I hope you are right, bud. Seems to me like the TPTB want war with Russia and China. They need to hire better liars.
     
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    I get a strong "wag the dog" vibe from this whole thing. Fun fact, that raid cost us a minimum 165 million in munitions alone. Good thing every domestic problem has been solved so we can afford to blow up some empty buildings for show.
     
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  25. grampa_herb

    grampa_herb CO2 oil bigot

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    Such BS. If there was a chemical attack the evidence is still there. Why not let some lab folks in there to properly test before possibly unleashing WW III? What are they afraid of?

    Cell phones are prevalent in Syria. Why aren't there zillions of videos of this? :hmm:
     
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