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Medical grade CBD rosin?

Discussion in 'Concentrates' started by choclabs, Apr 9, 2019.

  1. choclabs

    choclabs New Member

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    Anyone using presses to produce medical grade CBD rosin from hemp flowers grown specifically to produce high CBD levels and < 0.3% THC?

    Almost all posted threads sing the praises and magical qualities of full spectrum (high THC + low CBD) rosin, so surely the same benefits are derived from medical users wanting a source of clean and high purity CBD rosin (low THC + high CBD). Some hemp flower producers are creating Sativa dominant buds with > 20.0% CBD and > 0.3% THC.
     
  2. abracadaver

    abracadaver aka mephisto

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    I have some fantastic hemp flowers, and a press. Give me a day and I will see what I can squeeze.
     
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  3. choclabs

    choclabs New Member

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  4. MegaMan2k

    MegaMan2k Well-Known Member

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    I grew out Cannatonic and and squished it last year,
    Its a CBD cultivar but im gussing more than 0.3 % thc on the pheno i had,

    Its way harder to collect because it dont go solid-ish like thc will,
    But i made some damn good medicine out of that cannatonic thats for sure,
     
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  5. choclabs

    choclabs New Member

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    A search on the internet for,
    medical grade hemp flowers, will provide several listings showing sources for medical grade hemp flowers with CBD showing 20%+ levels and THC less than 0.3%. The latest federal Farm Bill passed in 2018 now classifies hemp as legal to grow in all 50 states. Many of these producers will sell you vacuum packed amounts of hemp with accompanying state validated testing certificates.
     
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  6. arb

    arb Semi shaved ape

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    Hells bells............how much will you fellas pay for a ounce of hemp flower?
     
  7. abracadaver

    abracadaver aka mephisto

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    TF took $90 a zip for top shelf, and $60 a zip for "smalls". All these new dope terms......fuck I can remember lids and keys.......well, and 3 finger quarters.
     
  8. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    I got an oz of legal CBD flowers for $90.
    OK for a quick vape of CBD but I certainly prefer full spectrum (THC/CBD) flower.
    It's legal and it helps stretch ones THC flower supply.
     
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  9. BabyFacedFinster

    BabyFacedFinster Capo di tutt'i capi

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    A two or three finger bag was a special occasion. Usually it was nickel and dime bags for me. and then you had to separate out all the seeds.

    A little CBD flower might be fun to try pressing. I could always mix some in with the regular stuff. Sometimes I sprinkle some CBD isolate on top of my concentrates to tone them down a bit.
     
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  10. choclabs

    choclabs New Member

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    4 finger lids for $10 in high school

    there was also the paraquat spraying days when some of the leaves on bud actually showed spray dots where moist droplets landed.

    Oh yea you got "full spectrum" product back in the day, sticks, stems, seeds...
     
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  11. choclabs

    choclabs New Member

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    Ok - I know that the majority of members on this forum squish buds for a super clean and potent buzz. I would love to reside where high volume legal buds are sold as rosin is supreme.

    However, since hemp is now legal in all 50, and the legal barriers to commercially available CBD are dropping, products are being sold nationwide in pharmacies like CVS, it is my hope that medical grade CBD continues to make progress in scientific studies by helping people with health issues to heal or better cope with their condition.

    So one of my objectives is to encourage the expansion of using "medical grade hemp" to squish rosin for medical conditions. This will also bring more of the general non pot smoking population into the realm of how this plant can help people heal. That positive exposure will increase the probability that more people will vote in favor of spending more funds on researching the medical use of marijuanna.

    This will hopefully result in more people living a better life and the reduction in harsh legal penalties remaining on the books?

    So bear with me and consider the potential for all of this positive energy to be released if all of you who currently own presses would offer to help medical marijuanna users squish some potent, clean and tested medical grade hemp for their use.

    A few free squishes of hemp buds for those in need every now and then is such a little effort in relation to just how much healing that could be done.
     
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  12. hafalump

    hafalump Well-Known Member

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    I just ordered a couple of grams to try it. Edibles don’t work for me, maybe vaping will....
     
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  13. arb

    arb Semi shaved ape

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    The first th ing you should do is provide factual scientific data to support your claims not a bunch of anecdotal placebo effects.
    Secondly you should explain how consuming a plant bred for textiles and animal fodder applies to human consumption........I fully support its use for fodder and textiles.
    The confusion between cannabis and hemp is deliberate and motivated by financial gain.
     
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  14. choclabs

    choclabs New Member

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    @arb
    Thank you for your reply and suggestion for me to include "factual scientific data". I totally agree that there needs to be factual scientific data presented. But my premise resides on the fact that the THC based product is now listed on schedule 1 narcotics status. So almost all real peer review scientific data is still yet to be generated due to availability and the fact that product equality is so near impossible to control.

    So looking for "factual scientific data" is time best spent by those who read this thread and wish to do so. But my premise also resides on my theory that almost all who read this thread or post also have a belief that marijuana is being underutilized in a medical scenario and the most recited obstacle to this by researchers is the schedule 1 listing.

    Therefore if we could stimulate the rosin press manufacturers to also include marketing efforts of their presses into the medical CBD market place too, it would benefit all of us, recreational as well as medicinal users. TV documentaries showing projects like "Charlotte's Web" high level CBD based hemp and it's results seen when used in helping epileptic children control grand mal seizures, have produced much more acceptance in the non marijuana smoking population segment than almost any other efforts combined.

    My wish is that all medical marijuana researchers who want to create and manage studies that focus on using marijuana or it's byproducts (rosin), for medicinal use studies be granted the easy ability to acquire high grade and quality tested product for expanding research on medicinal use, whether that is marijuana rosin with or without THC included.

    My aim is not to re-create a thread that argues about the possible medicinal qualities of marijuana, rather to create a thread that promotes the use of presses to create high CBD content rosin in addition to rosin with high content THC and CBD, so that much more research and development of new uses for marijuana and it's derivatives can take place. And if private rosin press users also gain increased positive health benefits from ingesting more high quality CBD, then all is considered a positive gain.
     
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  15. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    @choclabs , thanks for starting this thread which is much needed IMO
    Let's keep it to CBD Rosin Pressing, as THC pressing is covered in many other
    places here.

    CBD Rosin Pressing--Medical Grade or I'd like to call it connoisseur grade, meaning it's from
    top shelf genetics and was handled properly after harvest. Hopefully start with top grade hemp plants.

    Please---let's keep this going as pressing great CBD rosin would be AWESOME BUT it's likely going to be
    very different from pressing THC buds.
    I just attended a seminar from a big player in the CBD farm/produce/extract zone. He sees and analyzes hundreds of
    hemp plots each season and it was shocking to learn that the vast majority of hemp crop is below 5% CBD. The THC rosin pressing from 25% THC buds suddenly looks pretty sweet in comparison.
    At 5% CBD he won't even take it for free as it costs more to extract than value of CBD extracted from such low % bud.

    His "A grade hemp" that he rated was only 15% CBD, again a disappointing figure to me.
    What is everyone's experience with finding/getting the highest CBD buds and buds that are
    very cleanly grown/ lab certified to be clean?

    My end goal is to be able to get some folks I assist (low income) CBD rosin at the least possible cost....
    and hopefully a fraction of what they currently pay for CBD OR way less money than they spend on our MN
    Medical Cannabis Program...... a gram of THC/CBD oil from them was $208 last time I checked. If they can get by with just CBD product, they'd save a huge amount.
    Actually, most have now dropped out of the MMJ program due to the obscene pricing!!! We have only two vendors and they each get their own territory, so it's functionally two monopolies-- think Mafia dividing up their territory :(

    So, something needs to be done to really work toward squishing high grade CBD rosin. There are a lot of us that would like a legal rosin..... especially since it can be pretty awesome stuff IME

    CBD Rosin...... for those lucky bastards that have actually had some..... how is the taste and scent of CBD Rosin?
    I've only had CBD flower, vaporized. To the nose, buds smelled much like cannabis. For vaped taste, it
    was decent but I'd say not as rich or good tasting as THC buds.
     
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  16. Sick Vape

    Sick Vape Solar Dabs

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    Why should the presses not work for CBD weed, if you want that?
    I can attest that >20% CBD hemp that smells like wet socks gives bitter rosin that smells like wet socks.
    But I am pretty sure it could taste much, much better by choosing tasty, hemp better suited for extracting.
     
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  17. choclabs

    choclabs New Member

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    @Sick Vape @MinnBobber
    Yes in fact the presses do work just fine for pressing CBD rosin.

    CBD concentrates are available for purchase via the web as are high cbd hemp flowers. Search for "artisinal CBD hemp growers" or similar for flowers and search for "CBD concentrates or dabs" or similar and you will find many sources for high grade CBD products even rosin is available if you look dilligently enough, for example - CBDfx, The Hemp Barn, CBDistillery, ExtractLabs

    All I am trying to do is have the THC rosin press makers realize that they can reach out to CDB/medical marijuana users in more than just the recreational legal states and more than just the THC rosin users market. This might also result in faster decriminalization/de-listing as a schedule 1 narcotic and faster legalization for each state relative to medical use. The hemp flowers are legally available to all citizens except for the state by state legalities as are the presses, so helping more people realize this is a possibility will encourage the use of these products more broadly. And hopefully, result in an electorate that will vote in less restrictive laws relative to research and use of medical marijuana.

    Oh AND it just might also help many of us to better deal with our daily aches and pains with less negative side effects.
     
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  18. Sick Vape

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    I am not sure rosin is always legal even if made from legal cbd weed in europe for example. But when it goes in a cartridge finally with low enough % THC it should be ok.
    If the rosin itself is low enough in THC it should be fine too i want to believe but I have no proof and each country still regulates a bit different.
     
  19. choclabs

    choclabs New Member

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    Yes, almost the same here in US. The federal law allows for hemp and byproducts legalization including cultivation. But each state has additional jurisdiction. For example some nationwide pharmacies are going to sell products with CBD but some states already have medical marijuana laws on the books that restrict to CBD and from that state licensed grower. But then you can go to the vitamin store and buy OverTheCounter supplements with CBD.
     
  20. Sick Vape

    Sick Vape Solar Dabs

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    Interesting. Finally almost same same, but different.
    I agree with you that heat extraction presses should be considered health equipment or so and possibly getting funded by health insurance for medical users.

    edit: P.S. medical CBD rosin should be ingested, topical, whatever, but if possible not inhaled.
     
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  21. MegaMan2k

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    The european union have a list of accepted hemp cultivars to be grown here, im pretty sure its this list they have up for revision soon so more cultivars might be accepted in the future, but its pretty short list right now.

    vaping cbd is def faster acting then other ways, so might indeed be very useful for some.
     
  22. Sick Vape

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    It is the same as with all cannabis compounds. If you can get the effects you need with ingesting, it is a more healthy way of medicating.
    But alot of medical users find inhaling works best for them.
    CBD is faster acting inhaled but less efficient than ingested with fat it seems.
     
  23. hafalump

    hafalump Well-Known Member

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    edibles don’t work for me, I’m looking forward to a vape of these flowers.....
     
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