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Is my next vape the Extreme Q?

Discussion in 'ABV' started by DogDad, Dec 13, 2013.

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  1. DogDad

    DogDad Well-Known Member

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    I'm thinking I want a desktop now and one I can experiment beyond 400* and uses both bag and whip.

    1. Are there other vapes I should consider that have those features at near the same price point as the Q?

    2. Has anyone seen the Extreme Q "used" for sale this week? PM me please if you have.
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    Used herbal in the classified for $80 atm dose bag,whip,direct draw and will attach to most bongs but i don't no what the max temp is
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  3. clouded vision

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    max temp on the HA is 400f. Not sure exactly how accurate the temperature is or if it varies from unit to unit but mine seemed to be right on because I could always squeeze one or 2 tiny hits out of my HA abv in my solo on 7 (410f)
  4. DogDad

    DogDad Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. I have a considerable amount of AVB from the NO2 that I have been vaping at 350-380. I want to try vaping it again before edibles or making swamp water. My NO2 only goes to 400 so I'm looking for another unit.

    I'm also guessing there is less loss and more consistency using a bag and a fan to draw, over using a whip. The bag may work better for me than the NO2 because I space out and let the NO2 timeout all the time. Maybe, that's a sign the NO2 is working fine.
  5. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    I feel the HA will have a more consistent extraction than the EQ, but I have not used a HA, but I did go a week revaping abv with an EQ only and remember getting tons of hits from a bowl, I would start abv around 190c (374) and finish around 230c (446).

    I tended to go for the whip as the bag is just a time waste. You can just leave the whip there when using, take a hit, space out, you'll be able to take another later. I haven't really noticed a consistency difference with bags and whips.
  6. vorrange

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    Bag and Whip only the Herbalaire and the EQ. There was the Zephyr but was discontinued.

    Why do you want bag and whip? Those are by far my least favorite modes to hit it.

    I much rather hit with direct draw or water. Look at the E-nano for example. The bags are very wasteful and not that tastefull.

    The whip is not as tastefull as direct draw and you lose some efficiency due to losses in the tube, plus it is another thing to clean as are the bags.

    Look at log vapes, the Lotus and the LSV.

    If you remain adamant, i would choose the HA over the EQ because of efficiency and durability.
  7. DogDad

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    Probably only because I have had neither, and after I had them for a while adopt you're school of thought. I could see some advantages to both but can't argue with your logic either. Less is more.

    The only thing I am adamant about, is a need to go over 400*. It has to get hotter than the NO2 or I wouldn't have a reason to use it.

    Fan + bag : I "thought" I could save more herb and get the best draw. I hit my NO2 wrongly I'm sure and some goes to waste. If I could solve two problems at one time, I could keep the NO2 as a pure portable.

    The whip "seemed" like a good idea for me personally. Toss some in a bowl, draw on the whip when I don't forget. I"m a casual toker usually sitting at my computer, and sometimes I need both hands. I tried the whip on the NO2 and it was a massive fail.

    Now I'm not so sure.
  8. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    I agree with vorrange, the EQ to me is more of a starter vape, I highly recommend looking at logs, the Hammer, or FW as these will definitely go over 400. The EQ in comparison gives many hits but waste a lot of herb and doesn't hit as hard as a log will. Especially for the amount used.

    I too would go HA over EQ but logs over all.

    Bags and whips are nice but I'd still choose direct draw or dd through water before I consider those options.
  9. vorrange

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    Bags are more wastefull.

    One hand operation is easier with the eq and the ha, of course but you sacrifice on taste.


    I can use my HI very casually and with one of the stems i can use it with one hand.. I dont think this is something obvious, i think it truly depends on how you like to use it.

    Get a log and a bong, or get a solo for one hand operation and sell the no2.
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  10. DogDad

    DogDad Well-Known Member

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    The hammer or FW?
  11. vorrange

    vorrange Well-Known Member

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    Any vape that is manual controled goes at as high a temperature as you want. The Hammer and the Firewood are a good example. Any flame based unit as well.
  12. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    Hammer, but that's personal preference.
    The Firewood is really nice my only dislike is that it uses a capsule, but if you check the firewood thread you'll notice I overcame that.

    The Hammer for me is better because I enjoy that I can "recharge" in an instant and anywhere. It also has a quicker heat up, and more control on the temperature with the dial.
    Stems are very easy to clean and allow your actual vape to not have any herb in it.

    Unfortunately its going to need one of your hands for the heat up and usage, but the Firewood would as well.

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    I can tell you that the Hammer is the most simpler and easier to use vape out of the two. I have both and have used both FW versions. New users have far more difficulty with the FW than the Hammer, both operate near identical (excluding V1 Firewood).
    The Hammer will work just like a HI, ENANO, UD, or any other log in sense that you attach the stem, and start inhaling once its heated, it actually hits smoother than my UD but will produce the same clouds.
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  13. vorrange

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    The Firewood and the Solo are one of the few worth it for what you want that have one handed operation.

    To be honest, i would prefer a pratical unit irrelevant of whether you need one or two hands to operate.

    My HI just needs to be connected and i don't need to fuss with anything whatsoever, not even to change temps... i just change draw speed. I needs one or two hands, but i usually use two because it's easier this way.

    There is more into the practical factor than just the number of hands you use to operate the vape.

    The Firewood seems the most simple to use and operate, but it requires you to learn how. It seems your best bet atm for what you are looking for.
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  14. DogDad

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    This still sounds like more of what I'm looking for over a log or FW because of the known high temp that I can somewhat control to assure that everything that can be vaped, is vaped.

    Consistent temperature control is something I have been enjoying ( 370 daytime, 400 night time) and if the no2 would go to 450, I probably wouldn't be looking for another vape.
  15. vorrange

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    Dogdad, the EQ is only one of the many vapes that can vape thoroughly. Any 7th floor vape (SSV, DBV, and LSV) will allow you the same.

    The HA as well, the Cloud, the Nano, the HI, even the Solo.

    That is what we are trying to tell you.

    For the best extraction choose a vape that has more convection over conduction. And as you clearly need temp control, choose one that has a knob to control it and fix the temp.

    Again, vapes under 250USD that do this:

    - SSV, LSV, DBV
    - HI, Nano, Solo
    - Herbalaire, Extreme Q
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  16. paytonpenn

    paytonpenn Level 30 Nature/Healer

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    Vorrange is right, and here is my :2c:

    If you want to spend the higher price for a vape that will be a consistent temperature do it. EQs can be found for 150 on Ebay, V-Towers which from my usage operates and delivers the same minus the bag can be found for 115.

    Its always going to end off in personal preference, I suggested the Hammer to you in your first thread and/or a log with a vvps. If you don't think these are the best vapes around yet then you haven't been listening.

    For the past few days I have been using the FW and Hammer exclusively with ABV. Both seem to produce 2-5 hits until the herb is black :puke:, the only reason I feel the EQ got tons of hits is because of the HUGEASS bowl and distance of the herb to the heating chamber, I've done both the cyclone bowl and elbow packs, both methods still end up using more herb than the Hammer and FW.

    If you really want the temperature control, I highly recommend leaning to the V-Tower (because its less expensive). But I do think the Hammer would end up replacing your NO2 and the V-Tower once you use it.

    Do you want long sessions or to vape it quickly. I feel we should get some more specifics in what you want. And what price range, if its 240 then you should get an Holiday underdog for 170 and thank yourself for getting a log.
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  17. RUDE BOY

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    @DogDad if your going to forgo bags you may want to check out the Vapolution 2.0. Uses a small amount of herb per Bowl, Has amazing taste, also full temp control with a dial. It has no temperature markings but is simple to learn to control also only $99 to your door with an add on All in wonder Bowl using the code in the first post of the Vapolution 2 thread. I've only had mine for a week or so But love it already, great for pain relief and just plain enjoying my herb.
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  18. DogDad

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    A log with a vvps makes a lot of sense. I'll start looking at those today.
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  19. Vape N Bake

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    Look at the E-Nano by Epicvape. Does not require a vvps, Lifetime warranty for FC members and a 20% discount for the holidays.
    The No2 was my first vape and I loved it, till I got the Nano!
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