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Discussion in 'Cooking with Cannabis' started by tjw84, Jan 10, 2009.

  1. tjw84

    tjw84 Well-Known Member

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    Lately I have been making a good bit of BHO, and have yet to try eating it.

    I've heard that you can eat it straight, or put it on something.

    My question is: If I melt down a few jolly ranchers in a large pyrex dish, could i mix the BHO with the liquefied candies, let it harden, and then eat them? I know i could eat them, but would they be potent at all? I'm talking about using a nice .25- .5 grams of BHO per jolly rancher.
     
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  3. youdontknowme

    youdontknowme Well-Known Member

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    THC is somewhat soluble in sugar, but why not stick to the tried and true fat/oil/alcohol recipes? I also wouldn't bother eating it straight, though I'm sure it'd taste pretty good. You can eat an awful lot of MJ and not get great effects. I've heard after a while sugar will break down THC and render it impotent. If you're set on making candies, you may want to look into making sweets with glycerin, its a better solvent than sugar water would be due to its chemical structure being closer to that of alcohol.

    post back with results!
     
  4. Acolyte of Zinglon

    Acolyte of Zinglon Wizard-Ninja

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    try making fudge with that bho ;)
     
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  5. Spiderman

    Spiderman oil baron

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    Theres a very easy recipe for doing just this, posted by Khalista on a few different forums. Iv done the recipe, and it works phenomenally....hits harder and faster than the more traditional forms of edibles iv tried. Something bout the fat in the sugar i think, but nooo idea really.

    Lemme find a link...
    https://tokecity.com/forums/showthread.php4?t=2256

    The lollipops recipe could be easily adapted to jolly ranchers (just pour into a different shape) and you can get a variety of different textures just by cooking to a different temperature.

    EDIT: FWIW: you can eat it straight. You ever hear of the hash eaters? Most likely way to induce a hallucination from pot, iirc....but you have to eat a good deal more to get there. Try eating two grams of oil straight and you'll be fucked up im sure....but i wouldnt suggest trying to eat a little piece.
     
  6. vtac

    vtac vapor junkie Staff Member

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    Mostly would depend on your weight/metabolism/tolerance I think. In general, eating BHO would probably be less efficient than vaping it unless you have an insane metabolism.

    The need for a solvent for proper digestion/absorption of THC has been questioned. Idea being fat/alcohol is mainly to get the THC out of the plant material so you don't have an ounce of fibrous plant matter in your brownies.

    With BHO you've already extracted the THC in pretty much its purest, most concentrated form. 0.5g per piece sounds generous to me. If you have enough extra, hell yeah go for it and let us know how it works! :tup:

     
  7. tjw84

    tjw84 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the replies!

    Yeah I wont have more than a gram at the most, so i may just stick with smoking it.


    I have looked into the regular fat/oil recipes, but im not sure how much oil I need. Like usually when I make edibles, I put the weed in the crock pot and fill it up with oil until its just covered. How would i do this with hash oil? Would i need a small amount of oil and a regular amount of BHO? Or since there is so much more pure THC for the fat to absorb, would I need a lot of cooking oil? I just dont want to over or under do it. I can handle messing up cooking with a little herb, but I'd honestly probably cry if I lost my hippie crack lol.
     
  8. vtac

    vtac vapor junkie Staff Member

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    Did you read post #6?

    How is your tolerance with edibles in general?

    Probably safer just to vape it if you don't have much to experiment with. Maybe just try making 1.
     
  9. Spiderman

    Spiderman oil baron

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    Did you read my post at all? You just put butter on low heat, wait until it melts a tiny bit, through oil in, and mix together. When the oil dissolves, you're done.

    Regardless, since you clearly dont have THAT much oil (or really a lot at all, if you've only got a gram or so) try dissolving .1 in about a cup of milk, with maybe a drop of vegetable oil if the bho flecks dont wanna dissolve. Shit works great.
     
  10. youdontknowme

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    im mostly going to sound like an echo box here, but they bring up good points.

    its true the oil/butter in recipes serves to extract the thc from the plant matter, so vtac im not at all surprised that you could get away with just eating it. but as far as my personal experience here, i've eaten up two grams straight up, nothing noticeable happened. oh well. in stark contrast to when i've eaten baked goods with less and gotten ripped. ive heard the thc 'bonds' to the fat making it easier for you body to absorb, but this wasnt coming from an actual expert. i'll ask around when im back at school if i remember to.

    when we do weed hot coco we are sure to walk around nature for a while to get the blood flowing, try and up your metabolism a little. not sure how much it actually does though. personally i just like to lie in the sun on my roof. not really possible up in the north right now though.

    and id second what others are saying:
    if you dont get oil very often or dont make your own, 1) im sorry 2) savor it dont cook with it.

    and yes... if you are worried about effects, eat on an EMPTY STOMACH. for me its usually the first thing i eat that day, and then i dont eat anything else until the afternoon. insures you have those nice, long 6+ hour rides.

    good luck!
     
  11. tjw84

    tjw84 Well-Known Member

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    Spiderman: I'm bad about missing things when i read. I checked out the link and the recipe looks doable. I'm just going to have to wait until I have 3 grams. Plus, I don't use dank for my honey oil, so I may need even more for potent suckers. Thanks for that though. I haven't been able to find much of ANYTHING on eating BHO. I will definitely try the milk thing though. Sounds like it could be an interesting experience.


    Vtac- I have a pretty high tolerance for edibles. I cooked 2 ounces of ABV into 1/2 cup of oil and i can down about 7 and be fine. My limit seems to be 3.5 grams of mids or just dirt shitty weed. Anything at that level and over and I can't move for the whole day lol

    I don't want to risk messing anything up with melting it into any other candies, so I"ll stick with the milk. I'll post back with hopefully successful results.
     
  12. youdontknowme

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    Where I stay we discourage the word 'limit' and suggest 'sweet spot' instead. :p

    And fwiw the potency of oil has as much to do with how you make it as it does the quality of the nuggets. Not many people do it the right way, even self-proclaimed oil aficionados. Quality of nugget does have a impact on taste though.
     
  13. Spiderman

    Spiderman oil baron

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    I was hoping you could clarify this statement a bit......

    TJW: TBH, your tolerance is pretty weak. 3.5 of ditch weed a day isnt a huge herb intake....the fact that your ABV treats didnt hit hard is probably because you vaped most of the goodies out of the herb. You do a butane extraction, the oil will put you on your ass. Even with schwag.
     
  14. youdontknowme

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    I'm not going to take this thread in a new direction but spiderman as the resident "oil baron" I'm sure you can relate: how do you feel BHO compares to oil QWISO? It doesn't, imo. This is how I feel about oil made with hexane using a legit lab quality glass setup compared to butane. Hexane is a phenomenal solvent, and the butane extraction setups I've seen pics of look both dangerous and ghetto. And it's not hard to source. I've seen it in hardware stores, be we use reagent quality. :2c: Oh yeah, also weak acid baths (often sulfuric) for isomerization (converting cannabidol in to delta-9-THC)
     
  15. Clear_Dome

    Clear_Dome Vaporhead Glass Blower

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    I didnt read the whole thread and dont wanna set fire but bho is'nt ghetto or dangerous IF IT IS MADE THE RIGHT WAY ...also butane is one of the most if not the most clean solvent that you can use to extract thc

    :2c:
     
  16. vtac

    vtac vapor junkie Staff Member

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    Liar. :p
     
  17. Spiderman

    Spiderman oil baron

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    So you've been making your own hexane oil? Good to hear, pics would be useful....

    IIRC, n-hexane is a form of ether. A friend of mine did multiple extractions using ether as a solvent, in a reflux apparatus, and only got black tar on the otherside. How did you get past this? Defat?

    And why is butane oil so bad compared to hexane?

    Butane is a nonpolar solvent, and is selective in what it does and doesnt dissolve. My understanding is that by a stroke of pretty much pure luck, butane just happens to be dissolving resin glands and not plant material. People have mentioned CO2 Supercritical extraction as a better way to do this, but supercritical extractions involve dialing the apparatus in for use on a specific plant substance....cant just shoot co2 through herb and get oil. This large amount of work (read: research) coupled with the extreme price of co2 extraction machines is pretty relevant to the average person. BHO, when GC/MS'd, has come out at around 98% pure iirc. Further, you can SEE if theres any plant in your oil (if your oil is any decent).

    Ether oil is a unique concept, although I will say that I strongly prefer BHO to ether oil. The few samples of ether oil iv seen that compared to BHO in terms of quality of extract were significantly less tasty, and less stoney.
     
  18. fiarrhea

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    BOOM! Last night I made 3 batches of candy using about a gram of bho and 7 grams of bubble hash per batch. I used this recipe https://tokecity.com/forums/showthread.php4?t=2256 and it worked amazingly!

    The first batch was hard candy using jolly rancher watermelon flavored jello mix, delicious.

    The second mix was an airhead style candy, all I did differently was bring it up only to the soft/firm ball stage on the candy thermometer, this was the berry blue jello flavor.

    The third batch was a caramel, substituting cream for the jello mix and cooking to the soft ball stage, this one is my favorite.

    Each batch made about 24 candies, putting about .3 grams of concentrates into each piece : ) They are unbelievably strong, and I have a high tolerance for edibles. It was really fun just making the candy, different temps for different consistencies, flavoring, not to mention licking all the bowls and shit XD.
     
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  19. Been Vapin

    Been Vapin Crushing it for years

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    Just did my first trial batch using this recipe. Thanks for posting.

    Just have to figure out the dosage now. I'm pretty sure i had treats made this way a few years ago. They look and taste identical.
     
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  20. Been Vapin

    Been Vapin Crushing it for years

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    Just got my first candy making burn. Ouch. It hurts bad.
     
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    Been Vapin Crushing it for years

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  22. Lo

    Lo Combustion free since '09

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    Yeah... candy making is no joke... that shit gets HOT. Glad it wasn't worse.
     
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