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FakeXhale Cloud (Unauthorized and Unsupported)

Discussion in 'Counterfeit Vaporizers' started by Hypno vaper, Nov 9, 2013.

  1. Blunter

    Blunter New Member

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    I mean cheap quality wise. I'm not gonna spend the extra $350 just because its more expensive if the two have the same function. I spent $130 on my Solo and its awesome. I wouldn't hesitate to buy the EQ because of this. Arizer puts out good product. Now with the Cloud that they originally released for $450 is now at $100. Is it really all that bad to pass on it? And if it is do I trust VapeXhales future?

    If I was really was cheap in the way you used the word I would be seeking those crap box vapes that suck. I'm trying to get a nice product that works for less than $500. If VapeXhale released these for $450 there has to be potential of some kind. Nobody is addressing how bad these problems are just fear mongering the people that want one

    Thanks!

    And yeah the original iPads didn't have a massive problem and if they did it would likely be addressed before leaving assembly line

    PS- tech in iPads changes rather quick whereas vapes don't. That attributes to price change. Hence why the volcano hasn't had a price drop.
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  2. Mister G

    Mister G Council Elder

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    For a lark, I made an offer to the seller for $75. He answered back that he'd go down as low as $110. I'm going to pass, I'm good currently with my UFO Sub and Pinnacle Pro, don't need another.
  3. exit

    exit *beep beep* "Siri? I'm fucking blasted!"

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    That's what I was gonna say.

    Honestly I feel like when it gets here I just wanna kick VXL a donation. Not buying anything... just donate them some money. I wonder if it's even possible for me to do that. I guess the IGG and all that shit is long over, maybe I can find a paypal address for them and just gift them some bux?

    I might PM a VXC staff member on here but if anyone can tell me anything about donating to VXC I'd appreciate them. It'd just make me feel better to know they're getting a little money from me one way or another.

    (Please don't tell me something like "well if you want to give them money buy a EVO!" Maybe if I had the money but for now I will wait and see how I like the litigation Cloud+ and i hope it'll put all my wonders about VXC design to rest and I'll gladly save up the money and buy a EVO. Again this is just how I wanna do it up I know the risk involved etc etc etc)

    I know there are other forms of proof but isn't it pretty telling given
    1. The dubious at best backstory about how they got them... literally makes no sense when you actuall think about it.
    2. They sell and manufacture oven & stove parts.
    3. And last but not least we KNOW litigation is underway.

    IMO I totally understand if you want harder, realer proof, but I think the story is pretty clear to me about why these are being dumped so cheap.
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  4. darkrom

    darkrom Great Scott!

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    I believe it is the shady manufacturer, and shady in general, I was just curious because I know Max doesn't just make up stuff and declare it as fact.

    If it IS the original cloud materials, I would have felt confident buying one since my original cloud was awesome. The ticker that is. Still running strong at my friend's house while I wait for my evo.

    I'd rather support vapexhale, but these might be a good deal for someone who doesn't have the means to buy the real deal. If I couldn't afford a cloud and had the options of no cloud with no warranty, or a cloud with no warranty for $100 I'd do that. Its essentially like taking $300-400 off the price in exchange for not having a warranty. Those aren't terrible odds. Hell you could buy 3 and hope at least 1-2 of them work and still be ahead. Not my gamble to take since I'm doing my business with vapexhale, but as long as this is a limited small supply it shouldn't hurt them much/at all. Anyone who wants the evo would rather buy the evo than this. This is for people who can't afford clouds IMO, and for people who want to take a gamble on a "backup" cloud.
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  5. Deadshort480

    Deadshort480 Mini Glass Hoarder

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    I am buying simply for comparison. I have never used or even handled a Cloud. If it works as it should without issue, it will either be put away for backup use or it will be given away. I am not trying to hurt anyone with my purchase, I am only trying to help myself, perhaps another if I give it away.

    Without a doubt, my EVO has become my daily driver and will remain to be for as long as it works.
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  6. max

    max This space available Staff Member

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    The Volcano's still a current model, and sells just fine due to its rep.

    The Cloud still sells for $450 BTW, if you buy it from an authorized dealer. Vaporstore has 'em on eBay too. I bet they're anxious for the low ballers to sell out. They'll also need an uninformed buyer. Now that the EVO is out, the Cloud at full price is a bad buy.

    We'll be interested to see what you think. I feel like they've tweaked the EVO to provide a little better vapor/air ratio, but I've yet to test both side by side. In fact I haven't used the Cloud since the EVO arrived. The heat up time and ease of use differences will be obvious. Those improvements alone were worth the upgrade to me, especially with the Indiegogo deal.
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  7. SoulCaptivesAreFree

    SoulCaptivesAreFree Hazemaniac

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    i feel pretty stupid now, having paid a lot more for my unit... seeing as i got the same warranty: zero...

    well at least my cloud works, i really feel for those who paid full price and sit on a broken unit!

    great vape, but so much bs surrounding it :(
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  8. exit

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    I'll ask in a VXC thread if I don't get an answer here, but if anyone has info on how to donate to VXC, let me know please, I'm interested in sending some dollars their way without anything in return

    And on that note, it begins...

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  9. Deadshort480

    Deadshort480 Mini Glass Hoarder

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    Got him down to $95, huh? Didn't think he'd go lower than $100.
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  10. Purpl3_Haz3

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    My offer of $95 was counter-offered at $110, with a message of "Help me out here. I still have to pay for shipping. The $125.00 is a great price for a great product. $110.00 is the best I can do."
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  11. DrPiff

    DrPiff Born To Rage

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    Same exact offer and response here.

    What is a little fishy is that the item location in the listing says Detroit but my package is leaving out of Doylestown, PA.
  12. Purpl3_Haz3

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    Ehhh, I don't see it as fishy, but it does line up with the seller being the old manufacturer...because IIRC the old manufacturer was in PA, no? And either way, it's not un-common in my experience on eBay to see items ship from somewhere near, but not exactly the location it was listed in...
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  13. DrPiff

    DrPiff Born To Rage

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    ^Makes sense that it is the old manufacturer for sure now. First time I've seen tracking reflect somewhere else other than what was in the description thoygh .

    Well can't wait to try it while I wait for my Evo. Only problem is I doubt my ELBs from vapefiend will be here in time.
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  14. Purpl3_Haz3

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    I can't say for certain, but I was told by someone else who just bought one of these Clouds from this eBay seller, that it came with '3 Large screens/bowls, and 3 Small screens/bowls,' by which I can only imagine they were talking about ELBs. So, it seems as though they are coming with ELBs...possibly.

    Edit* I realize @2paces was told by the seller that these do not include ELBs...maybe the seller doesn't know that ELB means EZ-Load-Bowl, and that he is in fact including them? :shrug: I guess we will only know when more folks here receive these things...

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  15. exit

    exit *beep beep* "Siri? I'm fucking blasted!"

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    I'll be sure to update the thread with what I get, even though i already ordered a 4 pack of ELB's from Vapornation. It can't hurt to have some extra ELB's around especially if I'll be getting an EVO sooner or later ;)

    P.S. I offered him $95 and sent a note saying "please man it's all I have in my PayPal i'll pay today if you accept it or else it might be a week while i wait for money..." haha! I'd never run a lowball like that on the vape company themselves ;) more money for me to donate to VXC ;)

    (I wonder if they even take donation? lol)
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  16. lwien

    lwien Well-Known Member

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    If they don't, I will. Just let me know and I'll PM ya my address. I guarantee that it will make you feel better and absolve you of all guilt. :tup:
  17. 2 Paces

    2 Paces Well-Known Member

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    I hope you're right, and if so I apologize for the bad info. I talked to him on the phone, and asked if he had opened up the packages. He said yes, and that there was the unit with cord, and the glass mouthpiece, nothing else. I asked if there were any screen type bowls, and he said no, but you can buy them elsewhere. He seemed to know what he was talking about, so I took him at his word.

    Again, sorry. Thought I was being helpful :doh:
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  18. exit

    exit *beep beep* "Siri? I'm fucking blasted!"

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    @2 Paces Hey, it's all good dude, to be honest even if I spoke with this dude on the phone I wouldn't take his word for it.... in fact I'd totally believe some have ELB's and some don't, I'd more easily believe he forgot to feign ignorance about them!

    Either way I'll let the thread know when I get mine. Really can't hurt to have some extra ELB's around can it? :smug:

    Yeah no doubt man, lemme know where to send this blank check! :spliff:
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  19. 2 Paces

    2 Paces Well-Known Member

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    Same here. Mine was at Fed Ex in CT at 5:45 tonight. It would be nice if it showed up tomorrow, but more likely Thursday.
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  20. TabootTaboot

    TabootTaboot Member

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    I offered $95, he said $100 is as low as he could go, it will be my first home vape, even if it lasts a few months it's worth the price to me to decide if i should pick up the EVO next. I'm excited to try it.
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  21. Kevdog420

    Kevdog420 OMMP Patient

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    Yeaaah I'm feeling pretty stupid right now too. I paid $365 for my OG ticker a few weeks ago. Atleast it came with a HT, but still for $125? I would have bought this in an instant..
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  22. Purpl3_Haz3

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    @2 Paces, I apologize if my post came off negatively towards you! I was simply using your post because you were the only person who communicated with the seller and posted here about ELBs. Not trying to shoot the messenger at all! And there very well could be a situation where some packages have them and others dont, or he over-looked them. I know that if I wasn't looking for them, I might not see them amidst the packing peanuts...maybe he was recalling from when he checked a package prior, and never noticed them cause he wasn't looking. I wouldn't put it past them to be ignorant about something like that, on purpose or not.

    Thank you for providing info! :)

    BTW, I am expecting to see my order arrive tomorrow...I'll post updates here as I go.
  23. sasNW

    sasNW Well-Known Member

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    Accepted my offer of $100 in about 5 minutes, very interested to see how this turns out. I bought my eq about 5 years ago under the same circumstances and it's still going strong at my buddies, let's hope this turns out the same
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  24. Purpl3_Haz3

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    Not the same circumstances at all ;) Price wise, possibly, but not with the same reasoning behind it, or potential for failure with the unit...long story.
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  25. Deadshort480

    Deadshort480 Mini Glass Hoarder

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    $100 was your initial offer?
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