Dynavap VapCap

sirwalter

sirwalter

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mrb said:
My two vapcaps in regular use have a gen 6 and gen 5 tip. To me any difference in performance is un-noticable. I prefer the looks of the gen 5.

The best looking (Gen 4) is noticeably less effective for me. Not by much at all, but it is noticeable un-like the 5/6 comparison.

I am fairly confident the Gen 6 changes were for the sake of easier machining and less breakages in the cutting heads and the ti tip being machined. The scalloped shaped grooves must put less strain on both the material and the cutter than the deep square grooves of the previous generations.

There seems to be variation in the shape of the cutouts on top of the tips in each generation. Not sure why, and I've yet to read a comparison between different shaped cutouts. Can't imagine a lot of difference is created by this small detail!?
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Thats funny, I always seem to go back to the gen 4 tips- I have two and they both feel like they give stronger/denser hits than the 5 and 6. The only difference I notice with the gen 6 is it feels like it has more airflow.
 
hinglemccringleberry

hinglemccringleberry

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mrb said:
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The best looking (Gen 4) is noticeably less effective for me. Not by much at all, but it is noticeable un-like the 5/6 comparison.
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What exactly do you mean by less effective? Ive read posts earlier in this thread of people saying they prefer the 4th gen tip to the later gens...Ive only ever used a 4th gen so I can't make my own comparisons.
Edit, I see the 2 posters above me beat me to it ;)
 
mrb

mrb

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sirwalter said:
Thats funny, I always seem to go back to the gen 4 tips- I have two and they both feel like they give stronger/denser hits than the 5 and 6. The only difference I notice with the gen 6 is it feels like it has more airflow.
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Yup. The VC, is a little different for us all - Somewhere in there lies the magic of why the VC is so good.
 
danielj

danielj

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Daprezz said:
1.Your magnets are axially magnetised and dynastash's diametrically.

or

2.Your Vapcap is haunted by a paranormal phenomena related to spiritism like moving objects on a table when you form a circle holding hands around it.
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my wafer magnets do the same thing...pull the cap off center. I used these in testing the mag in silver coins. The reason the mags pull of center is because the N-S poles are horizonal, which is what is needed for coin testing. Horizonal poles are diametric

vertical poles are axial AXIAL is what you want for dynastash.

re. the cap... it is the metal in the clicker that is magnetic. not the ss cap shell.
You can test this easily by noting that the digger and the cap sides are not magnetic, but the cap sticks when it is placed tip down
 
mrb

mrb

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danielj said:
my wafer magnets do the same thing...pull the cap off center. I used these in testing the mag in silver coins. The reason the mags pull of center is because the N-S poles are horizonal, which is what is needed for coin testing. Horizonal poles are diametric

vertical poles are axial AXIAL is what you want for dynastash.

re. the cap... it is the metal in the clicker that is magnetic. not the ss cap shell.
You can test this easily by noting that the digger and the cap sides are not magnetic, but the cap sticks when it is placed tip down
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I went through this headache about 1100 pages back :) It is Diametrically magnetised magnets you want for a dynastash. I can confirm having bought many from online magnet specialists. The slimmest Diametrical disc magnets AVAILABLE seem to be 12mmx6mm. Where Dynavap get theirs from is a genuine mystery :)
 
cybrguy

cybrguy

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mccringleberry said:
Edit, I see the 2 posters above me beat me to it ;)
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Well, I didn't really say I preferred Gen4 tips. What I said was I never felt a need to swap out the one I have for a newer one. They work well enough that I don't feel it's worth the cost of a new one for the difference. And I like that my first non glass VC is still original.
 
danielj

danielj

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mrb said:
I went through this headache about 1100 pages back :) It is Diametrically magnetised magnets you want for a dynastash. I can confirm having bought many from online magnet specialists. The slimmest Diametrical disc magnets AVAILABLE seem to be 12mmx6mm. Where Dynavap get theirs from is a genuine mystery :)
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mrb certainly dont want to instigate a headache...and certainly I have been wrong about things before. Consensus is that you are correct about diametric. I accept that...I just dont understand it!
 
seki

seki

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I was cleaning a few of my Vapcaps today and came across some more tip weirdness.

Below are three gen-6 tips:
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The tip on the left is from my first Vapcap, purchased in December of last year. The middle tip is one of two Ti tips purchased mid-January during the FC-appreciation sale. You can see that the first two tips have the winged cutouts as is common with gen 6 tips. The third tip however is a replacement for the second tip I purchased during the FC-appreciation sale. That tip was defective and caused a crack in one of my Vong stems. I sent that tip back and got the one pictured as a replacement. I hadn't actually noticed until all of the tip discussion here led me to examine them a little more closely.

Airflow on the third tip is noticeably more restricted, now that I consider it. I've been having some difficulties with that Vapcap as compared to my other identically configured ones. Examining them now, the third tip has cutouts that are also more shallow than the other two. Perhaps I need to return this one too?
 
mrb

mrb

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danielj said:
mrb certainly dont want to instigate a headache...and certainly I have been wrong about things before. Consensus is that you are correct about diametric. I accept that...I just dont understand it!
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I did not mean to say that you were creating a headache :) Just that a long time ago I was scratching my head like you and after being told I should use Diametrical magnets buying some and seeing it work I just gave up the fact that I thought it would have been the other way around. . . Now @phattpiggie is saying some axial ones can work . . . I'm just gonna keep out of magnet conversations from now on :doh:

Thanks for the info piggie!
 
stark1

stark1

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seki said:
I was cleaning a few of my Vapcaps today and came across some more tip weirdness.

Below are three gen-6 tips:
gen6-tips.jpg


The tip on the left is from my first Vapcap, purchased in December of last year. The middle tip is one of two Ti tips purchased mid-January during the FC-appreciation sale. You can see that the first two tips have the winged cutouts as is common with gen 6 tips. The third tip however is a replacement for the second tip I purchased during the FC-appreciation sale. That tip was defective and caused a crack in one of my Vong stems. I sent that tip back and got the one pictured as a replacement. I hadn't actually noticed until all of the tip discussion here led me to examine them a little more closely.

Airflow on the third tip is noticeably more restricted, now that I consider it. I've been having some difficulties with that Vapcap as compared to my other identically configured ones. Examining them now, the third tip has cutouts that are also more shallow than the other two. Perhaps I need to return this one too?
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Or perhaps you could use a needle file to enhance the air flo yourself, and save on the brutal
wait for snail mail to deliver?
 
Furnias

Furnias

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The axial magnets works on the exact measure of 10mm in diameter, because is the same size of the VC. If is bigger, the cap tends to go to one side, i guess...
The diametrical ones magnetize the cap just in the middle regardless his measure
 
Sativapo

Sativapo

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danielj said:
my wafer magnets do the same thing...pull the cap off center. I used these in testing the mag in silver coins. The reason the mags pull of center is because the N-S poles are horizonal, which is what is needed for coin testing. Horizonal poles are diametric

vertical poles are axial AXIAL is what you want for dynastash.

re. the cap... it is the metal in the clicker that is magnetic. not the ss cap shell.
You can test this easily by noting that the digger and the cap sides are not magnetic, but the cap sticks when it is placed tip down
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Yes I always miix this up.
 
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