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Dillution method for testing in perhaps two weeks.

Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by bigtvapes, Sep 28, 2012.

  1. bigtvapes

    bigtvapes Well-Known Member

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    Let's say someone were to hypothetically be doing a job interview next week, and anticipates shortly after being asked for a urine screen. Do you guys think that if he/she stops now and is forced to take the test in two weeks, they have a shot of passing if they dilute with water/cranberry juice and some b12 vitamins?

    I know it's a stretch, just curious.

    P.S. - I'm aware that getting clean urine is generally considered the most reliable way to go. In this hypothetical situation, it's simply just not an option for a multitude of reasons.
     
  2. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    My understanding is no. For moderate to heavy users 4 weeks is marginal. Body fat adds time as well.

    Lots of discussions on this topic on other forums, Grass City IIRC had good information on it when I got curious a while ago.

    One of the 'hot tips' is home test kits. IIRC the general thought was if you're a week or two past the point you pass with them you're probably OK.

    FWIW I also recall a guy who got busted on a random test shortly after when the samples 'didn't match'??? Not sure what that means. They did another (hair?) test and caught him.

    Good luck to your hypothetical friend. Say how are they? I haven't always had good luck with the regular kind, maybe I should try a few hypothetical ones?

    OF
     
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  3. Puffers

    Puffers Micro-Climate Mastermind

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    I have passed a cpl tests with about a week and half Two weeks of being clean being a moderate daily user. I also have pretty low body fat though so that may be a big factor. Definitely not the way i perfer to pass tests but hypothetically speaking its plausible depending on the person. Definitley not the perferable way to handle that situation though
     
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  4. mmenzie

    mmenzie My friends call me "Menz"

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    i am a heavy users and i have two expieriences, one pass and one fail....

    many many years ago i was going for a job and i outright quit smoking for 5 weeks. results were dirty and i did not get the job

    the next job that required a pre-screen drug test, i only stopped one or two weeks before the test then got one of those drinks that "mask" your urine for 5 hours, 1 hour after you drink it. results were clean and i got the job.

    I do not endorse any products or suggest that my second method will work for you in any way, shape or form!!! your mileage will vary!!!!
     
  5. Jeppy

    Jeppy JedHI Vaporist

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    Get the 'stinger'. It works.
     
  6. bigtvapes

    bigtvapes Well-Known Member

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    I was always under the impression that those "drinks" do nothing but dilute your urine anyway.
     
  7. Jeppy

    Jeppy JedHI Vaporist

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    All I know is I have been tested 4 times and stinger allowed me to pass on all occasions.
     
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  8. mmenzie

    mmenzie My friends call me "Menz"

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    i am no expert so i don't know. all i know is my test came back clean and i got the job
     
  9. bigtvapes

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    OK so now it came up and my friend has a test on short notice. You guys suggest the stinger?
     
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    Jeppy JedHI Vaporist

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    I do. It worked for me, and I vape all day long.
     
  11. Tweak

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    Found this on another site months ago:

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    Best advice I've read on the subject. Good luck to your friend.
     
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  12. Jeppy

    Jeppy JedHI Vaporist

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    Well I'm glad I just took a stinger a couple hours before testing. I know bus drivers as well who use it.
     
  13. bigtvapes

    bigtvapes Well-Known Member

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    Well my pal ordered the Stinger lol. Hope it's not really a "load of crap" or a "Waste of money". He's a bigger dude so he was sure to get the powerful stuff. Really crossing my fingers that it works. For his sake... lol


    Anyone know anything about the certo method and it's viability? My pal is willing to try anything except urine substitute. This test will be done while he's at work and he can't have piss strapped to him all day because...well... he'd rather get fired lol. Not only that but it's not really feasable to keep something heated that day for that long since he'll be at work when he takes the test.

    This test is in 8 days and it's happening. Short of hospitalization or serious illness, he can't really push it back or anything without raising suspicion. At least not anyway he can think of. So is there anything my friend can do to make the Stinger drink work? Would exercising and a specific diet help? Any vitamins or natural supplements that might help?

    Also: Anyone's thoughts on a product like this are welcome:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012M0U28/ref=ox_ya_os_product
     
  14. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl SPACE GOD 宇宙

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    If you're gonna exercise, stop doing it at least two days before the test. Burning fat = releasing metabolites = dirtier than non-exercise. Good luck.
     
  15. bigtvapes

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    Yea i've read a lot of mixed reviews about this, so I'm not sure which way to go. On one hand I've read all these people saying you have to exercise all week long, release the metabolites and take diuretics and piss them out. You'll give a diluted sample come test day but since it's for an employment screening (as in not a court-appointed one) they may decide to let it go. Dont think I get that lucky tho.

    After doing some research, the company does NIDA/DOT method. From what I understand, they'll take your diluted sample and run it under stricter testing and unless you're super clean you are effed. On the other hand, I have read people say you're better off not exercising that day as it could cause a dirty read like you said.

    So I don't know what to do. With an extra week I'd have much more wiggle room. I could experiment with test strips and make it happen for myself. I'm thinking of calling in sick that day and just dealing with the suspicion and the bullshit. It's the day before thanksgiving so if I have to go back Monday I'm buying myself 5 more days. I just don't think 8 days is enough to get this crap outta me.


    I mean for my friend lol...


    Side question: Obviously, I should be eating healthy anyway, but I'm not that great with it. I eat o.k. for a meal or two a day, but I'm a big fan of the typical stoner diet of cheeseburgers, burritos, soda, and chips. So I'm trying to avoid a fat-heavy diet. Trying to go no dairy too as I hear that helps (again trying anything here) Eating better is all well and good, but I'm doubling my exercise regimen and I'm not in the best cardiovascular shape to begin with. I'd love some advice on some great, healthy, nonfat ways to build up energy and stave off hunger. The theory is high protein low fat right? So if I stick with meat, egg whites, beans that type of thing I'm fine... right? What about greens? Do carbs come into play with drug test results at all? Because I avoid carbs anyway but I think I could use them now...

    I mean for my friend...

    :-)
     
  16. dannkk

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    From some experience I have, the creatine method sounds solid. I was in a rehab about 10 years ago. A very strange, dishonest rehab. Called Narconon. Was started by L. Ron Hubbard using his scientology stuff to cure addicts. They don't tell you that until you're already there, though. I didn't know who he was and his picture was all over the place. One day I asked "Who's this bald guy who's picture is everywhere?" Was like I insulted the messiah(guess I did....their messiah at least).

    Anyway, they use a sauna regimen to detox. It worked in a similar way to that creatine method. Lot's of vitamins, lot's of niacin, lot's of water, and 4 hours a day using the sauna(not straight, but in till you sweat, then cool off and drink, then in again, etc). Yea...dangerous, but it did work. Their thoery on it was that the toxins are locked up in your fat cells. The niacin would kind of loosen up the toxins(when you get all red and itchy). Then you'd use the sauna to sweat them out.

    I don't recommend going all out like that. There were some horror stories floating around the place. Overheating yourself like that can fry your brain, just like a really bad fever. That said, this did work, and it's somewhat along the lines of what the pharmacist suggested. Reason I know it worked is because while I was in there someone snuck in a joint. I was right in the middle of the sauna program. We smoked. Gossip got us caught three days later, so they tested us. We both came up negative for the next 3 days. They were so pissed. They knew we did it, but they couldn't kick us out without a positive test.
     

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