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Discussion in 'Medical Discussion' started by mikek9, Aug 3, 2015.

  1. theCerberus

    theCerberus Well-Known Member

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    fair enough. i was referring more to just the tweed brand specifically. i left long before dna and snoop strains were released.

    Fair enough as well. Your mileage may vary. I've got far too much stuff from Tilray that was overpriced and overdried. I actually think they do have some great stuff, but for me it was hit or miss and I got too many misses at high cost to want to continue. They have recently lowered prices and now have a good compassion program, so I dont really want to argue those points either.

    I should try these two LPs again out on my next script. But I also like to stick to the strains that work for me. This whole buying 5grams to try a strain is nonsense. I got kinda fed up with the whole thing and just order Broken Coast. They can repeatedly produce top shelf well phenotyped strains.
     
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  2. JCat

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    I've been really happy with Broken Coast too. Just got a bunch of the ruxton (sour og) and it's great! They're not real cheap (Broken Coast), but the quality is excellent in all ways (cure, flushing, trimming, etc, etc).
     
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  3. biohacker

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    Never was able to sample Broken Coast, but it has now come down to Broken Coast vs Whistler (for the girlfriend), i'm sticking with Tilray for the compassionate pricing as well as quality/professionalism. I think Whistler has more oils/tinctures so I think that will sway her decision, as well as flower variety. Thanks as always for your feedback brothers! We Canadians are such a small sample on this forum, so it's nice to see this thread going and sharing our experiences!

    I also cannot even believe the EXPLOSION of MOM's out there.... i've stocked piled so many awesome meds that I feel like I may never need to even buy again for months, if not years! :lol:
     
  4. biohacker

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    okay so do all these lp's grow in SOIL? I know Whistler does, but i'd love to know if some LP's like Tweed, tilray, etc grow hydroponically? I'm only interested in meds grown in soil, ideally outdoor/greenhouse, but I know that's not really possible without gamma zapping, so would prefer at least soil grown for so many reasons.
     
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  5. JCat

    JCat Well-Known Member Accessory Maker

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    Is Whistler ever pricey! Much more than Broken Coast! Broken Coast is Hydroponic, but very well flushed/cured hydroponic so it doesn't have that hydro/chemical taste/edge to it. It tastes and feels clean (you can tell they know what they are doing and are paying attention to detail). Consistency between batches has also been great.

    Edit: Hydroponic can be done organically, and with quality nutrients and fertilizers, or it can be done the cheap way. There are benefits as far as control. Personally, I always preferred to use soil, and I think there is a lot to be said for it, but well done hydroponic can be excellent. I think the flavor will always be better on the soil based though ... like the tomato from the backyard ... assuming the nutrients, fertilizers, etc. used for the soil grow are also of high quality and properly managed.
     
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  6. biohacker

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    I don't put a price on my health, so i'll take Whistler over BC simply due to soil grown and organic nutrients, and don't forget whistler includes shipping in their prices.

    I was just listening to a podcast with Dr Mercola (he's very pro cannabis too), and he was explaining how much superior soil grown is over hydroponic (even if organic) due to the microbiome in the soil, and how it's energetically grounded. Makes alot of sense, and i've decided to stick with natural soil grown for that very reason.

    I just want the best quality product grown in the most natural way, and prefer plants grown in soil as mother nature intended.

    BTW - LOVING the London Compassion Society order I received! All their outgrown strains (they have alot) are quite amazing (from look and smell, haven't vaped them yet), and the Organic Vanilla Kush Outdoor is something i've yet to see and smell before! Really smells like natural vanilla!

    I'm looking at the Tweed Farms 91 krypt and nordle. I don't see mention of cold pasteurization so I assume it's not gamma irradiated (I would hope)?

    And the DNA Genetics Sour Kush for $7 is sun kissed!

    Is it possible to have greenhouse hydro? Or is it all soil grown?

    EDIT: Just got off the phone with Tweed, I asked them if their strains are hydroponic or grown in soil. Answer? They can't disclose that information but it's not hydroponic? WTF? What do they grow it in that's such a secret? Shit? :lol:

    EDIT 2: Just got off the phone with Tilray! Called them several weeks back and was told that they do NOT gamma irradiate. Well, just found out that they use some sort of Electron-beam and is considered "cold pasteurization".... so yeah, i'm guessing that's gamma!

    Also asked about how their strains are grown, and apparently it's grown 1/2 hydro 1/2 coconut mulch or some sort of mixture :rolleyes:

    Now more than ever do I want to try Whistler! Otherwise I think i'm sticking to Dispensaries with sun grown. Just picked up another oz of outdoor for $135 from THCdelivery. It's a new strain i've never seen called Emerald Green, and if it's anything like the C-weed outdoor I have from them I will be more than impressed. I swear you can smell and taste the sun! :rockon:
     
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  7. CheeseSandwich

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    Anyone have any experience with THC Biomed ??
     
  8. theCerberus

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    Tweed has aeroponics though its likely not used everywhere in their production facilities. Other than that it is a mix of soil and hydroponics with soil-less medium. So to answer your question: they use multiple production techniques, depending on the facility and grow room used in said facility, and you will likely never know how exactly your batch was grown.

    Source: http://www.newswire.ca/news-release...ot-project-with-indoor-harvest-516920041.html

    https://web.archive.org/web/2015101...34967556-rooted-in-research-aeroponics-update

    This article was pulled down off the tweed website but you can still find it on archive.org
    (tweed thinks they can erase the internet, but the internet never forgets)


    I am very curious what their bud is like. They were only selling clones for a long time. I will try them on my next script and post a review, my renewal is in about 2 months.
     
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  9. CheeseSandwich

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    My renewal was today. I just went ahead and went with THC Biomed for half of my script so I'll get back here with some info once I order.
     
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  10. CheeseSandwich

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    So, I'm registered with THC Biomed. They have a $35 :o:hmm: shipping charge if your order is less than $150
    Y'all might be waiting a while, this kinda soured me out of the gate honestly. That's just fucking crazy.
     
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  11. theCerberus

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    That sucks. That is definitely an extremely high shipping rate. Most expensive I've ever heard from an LP.

    Any chance you can tell us what strains are available at what THC % and CBD %?
    There doesnt appear to be updated information on their public facing site.

    What increments do the bottles come in?
    $150 would be 25 grams at their price of $6/g.
    Doesn't seem too hard to reach if there's 5 strains to try in 5 gram increments. Though I admit I'd rather not purchase that much of an unknown.

    I would completely understand if you didn't want to make a purchase from this LP. If you do, I would suggest asking them if the product is flushed and how long its dried and cured for.
     
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  12. CheeseSandwich

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    available strains:
    NEBULA
    • THC: 14.0
    • CBD: 0
    NEBULA II CBD
    • THC: 7.0
    • CBD: 9.0
    SWEET PURPLE
    • THC: 12.0
    • CBD: 0
    KELOWNA KUSH

    • CATEGORY: Dried
    • THC: 14.0
    • CBD: 0
    ATOMICAL HAZE

    • CATEGORY: Dried
    • THC: 12.0
    • CBD: 0
    ALLKUSH
    • THC: 12.0
    • CBD: 0
    DURGA MATA
    • THC: 12.0
    • CBD: 0
    JACKY WHITE
    • THC: 15.0
    • CBD: 0
    White Berry, Original white widow & original cheese are all coming in December. The containers all seem to be only 10g's and $6 per g. However, after shifting some things around in the cart is seems that $140 is the actual free shipping point so that's not too bad. I'll admit seeing that intial $35 charge set me off, lol. So I imagine I will eventually make an order.
     
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  13. JCat

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    Thanks for this ... the THC % are important to me so good to know. All pretty low ... I mean one of my favourite strains from Broken Coast is only generaly ~16% (and is a standard strain in my daily rotation ... probably at least 30% of my consumption); so it's not all about THC %, but it does matter. My 2nd primary strain sits at ~25% and you do notice the extra THC behind the eyes when you first take a hit ... so not all about THC % but anyways ... max of 15% seems low.
     
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  14. CheeseSandwich

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    @Jat
    Agreed. Those levels are pretty low, I'd like to see at least 20% but I also agree it doesn't mean everything. I cannot find much info about strain reviews either, there's 1 on lift but it has some promising looking photos of the atomical haze strain.
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  15. theCerberus

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    Well that drastically changes things. I really like their selection of strains but I wouldn't be inclined to order at all. I wanted to try the Haze and Kush strains to see if they are good at phenotyping/know what the signature smells are supposed to be but that's actually a ridiculous amount just to try a strain out. If their product is not flushed, has no smell, no signature dankness, smells like hay or old potato chips, or literal manure like I have seen from other LPs I'm not interested in having 9.9 or the full 10 grams leftover. I need 0.1 to try it out in a vaporizer. I'm perplexed why LPs can't sell me 1 gram.

    I patiently await your review. I'd like to know if this is dank fire, mids or bunk ditch weed. Not interested in 10grams of mids or ditch weed. Only interested in dank, premium quality.

    LPs need to learn how to adapt and market what they have properly. If its mids, just fucking tell us its mids. They need to stop lying, saying everything is premium medical quality is such a load of BS. Just be transparent and tell us what you got. fuck, its worse than a goddamn drug dealer saying hes got fire/quads every week. If you dont have quads (AAAA) then tell us what you do have. Don't just pretend its all quads, and for fuck sake own up to it when patients complain. These guys typically say, "It passed Health Canada standards". Those are safety standards, not quality standards.


    What a bunch of scumbags LPs are, taking over the industry and pretending to be the experts. Renaming strains and not telling us quality. Honestly name one LP who uses a shelf quality system? You can't. There are none. The only indicator is THC% which tells us jack shit.
     
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  16. Kosherbubba

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    Tweed: Excellent selection of CBD . They have over 11 strains of CBD. They have a 20 percent compassion discount if your are disabled-low income. They have a lot of different strains which are very nicely priced they have a hindu kush which works well for 6 bucks a gram. Shipping charge is 4 bucks. The people there actually are cannabis users so they know what they are talking about. I also notice the buds they pack weight below 5 grams. I at one time got 4.6 grams out of 5 that is almost 0.5 gram loss. Complained but they said their balances are calibrated. Other than that, very happy with their selection. They bring all the small growers together. Snoop, Bedrocan, DNA, and a few others.

    Med relief. The best quality cannabis I have tried so far. They have a compassion price of 25percent off if you qualify. They do have some cheap weed solveris trimings at 2.5 a gram and UK cheese at 5 bucks a gram. Shipping is free if it is a one time order. They actually give me more than 5 grams when I measure. At one time I recieved 5.3 grams. Actually all of their product I recieved was more than 5 grams each container. So that adds up especially when it comes down to expensive product like the 15 per gram products. Their customer service are not cannabis users so do not expect any good information coming out of their mouth. At one point I asked what the terpine level was for kosher kush and the person said what is a terpene. So beware none of them know what they are talking about. They only have a computer in front of them and will tell you the THC content , gentics, and some uses. Other than that not much. So happy with product and that they give you above the amount you purchased to ensure you are never under.

    Tilray: Love their service which is open 24 hours. Great for newbies to cannabis. You can actually call them at 4am and talk about cannabis. But I guess its really for those that are begginers etc.. how much should I take, .....
    Tilray has very good product almost on par with med relief. I found Tilray the freshest cannabis. Why because when you order they actually take from their stock and place it in a smell free, fresh zip log type of bag. The other LPs pack their product in medicine containers and It could sit on the shelf for a long time before it reaches you. Yes they say its fresh sealed containers but still . Its better getting bud from a large batch as apposed to getting it from a container that could have been left there for a couple of months? Tilray is very strict with compassion pricing. They only give 25 percent off to people making under 12 grand a year.

    Has anyone tried emblem, Organigram, Aphria, or any other places which offer good bud and compassion pricing. ?

     
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  17. CheeseSandwich

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    I haven't checked in here in some time...

    I did try THCBiomed, once. I was less than impressed with their stuff, some was appealing visually but lacked everywhere else, especially potency.

    I still have CannaFarms as a LP. Some of their's isn't too bad but still doesn't touch what else is available out there at the $6-9 gram price point on the grey market. So, I've switched from THCBiomed to Broken Coast and if I'm not content with their shit I'm done pissing away my money to LP's. :peace:
     
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  18. Kosherbubba

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    you should try tweed. They have great prices and large selection. Their stuff is really good for the price. If you want really potent quality stuff . Medrelief , expensive but the best I have had.
     
  19. CheeseSandwich

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    Tweed is some of the worst weed I've ever laid my eyes on. :2c:
    I have tried a couple of medrelief strains that were ok but way too pricey for me.
     
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  20. JCat

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    The only strains from Broken Coast that are worth while in my estimation, are the Sour OG (Ruxton), and the Super Lemon Haze (texada)--but everything seems to be not as good as it was not that long ago, and the super lemon haze THC levels are dropping too low now :( The Northern Lights Haze (galiano) is also pretty good, and everything else, I wouldn't buy again. Really the only one I would still buy I think is the sour OG or the super lemon haze if the THC level went back up.

    I heard more recently that Broken Coast electron beam sterilizes as well, so that, as well as them running out of everything after Christmas, got me to switch. I've been very happy so far with my Aurora product. Especially the Ghost Train Haze, the '91 K-OG Chemdawg, and the '91 K-OG Melon. The Blue Dream and Sour Diesel are so-so. I noticed they are also carrying the sour OG from Broken Coast now, except they guarantee they don't gamma-irradiate! So yay for that! I guess they must get it before it is processed as such? (I'm going to be inquiring about this ...)

    Edit: as far as Tweed goes, completely agree ... the strains I got I hope to someday give away ... they were WAY too dry, didn't smell great, the count was low, and even tried making rosin to which it had poor yields (but ok quality!)
     
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  21. CheeseSandwich

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    Nice, i had looked at Aurora but I went with BC from all the hype I guess,lol. I'll probably try 1 order with them and if I don't like it i'll move on. Was eyeing that starkiller strain (maybe?) as I'm definitely more of an Indica guy. I like hearing that Aurora doesn't use irradiation.
     
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  22. Elfgrin

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    "We don't gamma irradiate" is LP slang for "We e-beam pasteurize" TBH I wouldn't put it past Aurora to simply be falsifying their quality control process like when they said they were independently testing their OGI strains before release, then issed a recall after selling a bunch of contaminated product. It's good to hear you've been getting good quality from them, it's been over a year so maybe things have changed but everything I tried from there was trash. I know there have been many changes in management since then, but I also know a guy with over 100g of seeds collected from several years of using Aurora as their main LP. Nothing like a bunch of seed oil in your rosin to really get the ol' heart racing :lol:

    None of the LPs are worth our time or deserving of our money. Big pharma companies charging insane markups for B-grade product because of a government enforced oligopoly. Come "legalization" we just extend the privileges of the RCMP to violate the rights of anyone who doesn't want to support the Shit Weed Cartel. What a nightmare.

    My :2c: Tilray, Medreleaf, and most recently Peace Naturals have all got some decent product. Medreleaf is the most consistent but there's a characteristic sort of meaty/chemy taste that I find in almost all of their strains, and at $15/g I consistently find loose stems at the top of the jar. I think their Luminarium/Delahaze is their best product. Tilray has the cleanest taste but some batches are subtle to the point of being underwhelming. Favorites: Blueberry, LSD. As for Peace Naturals their Dancehall is quite nice, and they don't use gamma or e-beam, but I haven't tried a variety of products yet so I might have just gotten lucky with them. Their oil is top notch too, I'd wager it's got even better terpene retention than Medreleaf, which is already leaps and bounds better than most LP oils. If there's one thing these big companies can do it's a good oil.

    The absolute best product I have ever gotten from an LP is maybe comparable to what a good MOM charges $8/g for, and I've never seen anything remotely close to the quality I'd get for $10. Which I'm more than happy to pay if the quality is top notch.
     
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  23. JCat

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    I was 100% with MOM's up until 2017 (as my experience with LP's was poor). My issue with the MOM's was consistency. I found that often I would get strains that were underwhelming, even when they were ok before, sometimes there was an off smell (mold like?) on some stuff, concentrates sometimes tasted like there was leftover solvent so I had given up on concentrates from them, the result is I would pretty much always end up with a drawer with ounces of stuff I won't touch; and often I would just be forced to vape stuff that really doesn't work very well for me simply for economic reasons and it being better than nothing.

    I ordered once from a MOM last year, it was an ounce for $260, and it was absolute garbage. I pressed it for rosin at about a 5% return because that was better than nothing, as I would have thrown it in the garbage if I had to use the actual flower (or I suppose would have found someone to give it to). Being located up north in the middle of nowhere means things take 2-4 days to ship to me best case regardless of courier, and I need to purchase a reasonable quantity to get free shipping. MOM's just weren't working out well at all for me ... questionable product with poor reliability ... couple times I visited dispensaries in person in 2017 when down south, prices were up near the $9-$10/gram, even in ounce quantities, and quality wasn't as good as what I had been getting from Broken Coast; and the product wasn't tested, so I really have no idea what might be in it.

    My experience with Broken Coast, although I'm not thrilled about the e-beam, has been consistent, and the Sour OG and Super Lemon Haze have been always very good (although the decreasing THC percentages is concerning, and the complete lack of strains for over a month was ridiculous)

    I've tried some Tilray (from a friend), and it was ok, but the stuff I had from Broken Coast was better. I haven't tried any Medreleaf nor Peace Naturals. Tough to change LP's for me though so not something I can typically do more than once a year.


    Anyways ... I'm not thrilled at all with the direction the country is taking with the large corporate monopolies ... I'd like to see an approach more like how they approach craft breweries, where there is room for little guys and the big players, and that would be by far the best for the consumers (from a health and product quality perspective), but the reality of where things are at right now, Broken Coast, and more recently Aurora, have been my best options (Tweed was similar to my experience with MOM's more recently ... absolute garbage)

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    The star killer strain is pretty good. I'm not as much of an Indica guy ... something about the star killer doesn't sit great with me for effects though (not Broken Coast specific ... I've experienced this with star killer from MOM's too). I get ~20% returns on rosin from the star killer, so that says something about it ... and the rosin was very nice, but similarly, the effects weren't "right" for me.
     
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  24. CheeseSandwich

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    I'm hoping ACTUAL small craft growers do find a way to have their piece of the pie. Unfortunately I'm not very confident they will. Hey! LP's!!! Go talent hunting at a Probation office and get some growers with real experience.
     
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  25. JCat

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    I just e-mailed Aurora, wanted to confirm for sure if they electron beam sterilize or not (as the fact that they heavily promote that they do not gamma irradiate is misleading if they do, as when they say they don't gamma irradiate, don't use any pesticides, etc., it kinda' implies that they don't electron beam sterilize)
     

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