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Discussion in 'Medical Discussion' started by mikek9, Aug 3, 2015.

  1. CheeseSandwich

    CheeseSandwich Well-Known Member

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    @mikek9 Great information about Tweed. Thank you.:tup:

    @biohacker 35 is a Little :mental: But I'm jealous all the same.
     
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  2. mikek9

    mikek9 Vapor Enthusiast

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    What about Beard Brothers? They are my favourite dispensary outside the ACMPR regime. $220/oz and you can literally split it 28 ways though I bet the shop workers are secretly cursing you for all the extra work. :)

    But yeah, I usually order 7 of one, 5 and 5 of two others and then get 1-2g of the rest of my choice to make the ounce. A half oz is only $115 and can also be split down to the gram up to 14 ways. Everything comes in those nice reflective silver light locking bags that seal up quite well. Then it gets wrapped in a space bag and heat sealed and then vacuum packed for the ultimate protection.

    Also, their concentrates are $45/gram or $25/half g for all their shatters and waxes and you can mix and match half grams for the same price for some variety. I usually order 4 or more grams each order and often get 6-8 different kinds unless they have one I really like then I stock up on that. Plus shatter lasts so long when properly stored.

    Ohh and my Omicron V4 powers through them all like boss.
     
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  3. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    Never heard of them! Do you have a link? Google isn't helping me. Sounds incredible! That's one thing I don't like about tweed and RedeCan, are those plastic containers that have a positive charge and all the trichs/terps stick to the sides and shit. Not the end of the world, but THCD uses those ziplock types and I never have any problems, I just decant into glass anyway.

    How do you store shatter properly? I'm on a stockpiling binge since i'm on a forced break, and have a shit tonne of extracts I need to store.

    That's just a small part of my insanity...between the outdoor C-weed I bought from THCD (2oz), and NCC order arriving this week, as well as LCS, i'm outta control! Good thing Broken Coast shut me down! lol

    I just know how rare and seasonal outdoor strains are, and I need them for my wellbeing :)

    It's a good time to be alive!
     
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  4. CheeseSandwich

    CheeseSandwich Well-Known Member

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    So I guess the 2 strains I ordered from Tweed are greenhouse grown Tweed Farms brand. Ever try any of their greenhouse stuff @biohacker or @mikek9 ? Or know if it's irradiated?
     
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  5. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    I've only tried the RedeCan greenhouse and it's ALL irradiated there unfortunately. I would imagine if it's greenhouse that they would irradiate, however they SHOULD specify this, so maybe not?
     
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  6. CheeseSandwich

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    I don't see anything saying it IS but ya, you'd think their greenhouse would definitely be.
     
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  7. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    I don't trust a company that irradiates "some" of their product. I realize there is a demand for it, but fuck it other companies can meet standards without it, so why not support them? Tilray doesn't irradiate ANY of their strains, and have incredible selection and strains. I wish I didn't miss my renewal (was with them for a year), because I lost out on the "bonus". Pretty sure Broken Coast doesn't irradiate either?

    For BC members, what is the "minimum" you have to order for a strain? I wasn't able to see, because I had 0g of 90g available, even though I never even ordered once. Meanwhile NCC will be here before thursday. I guess some companies just don't want business. I was more than willing to pay for next day delivery, but nope - they didn't give a fuck!
     
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  8. mikek9

    mikek9 Vapor Enthusiast

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    Link for Beard Brothers? Certainly

    My wonderful dispensary is called Beard Brothers Society ( http://beardbros.ca/ ). Their menu is down at the moment while they are restructuring that part, but it was a good and decent quality menu similar to an LP, but with really high resolution product shots for examination. That was the best part as you could get a great look at the trichcomes or the oils and waxes. They often have a menu with maybe 10 or more different types of shatter, 5-10 types of wax and then another 15 or so types of bud for the prices I explained before. The same high resolution photos are available for the flowers. Their flowers are all good to great and occasionally excellent (they will tell you if you ask what's the best) quality with a nice cure and moisture content.

    The shatter is amazing and such a good price. R

    Their edibles are the best I have found and are a great deal if you get the ones with over 400mg of THC in them.




    Definitely there is no association with the greenhouse buds from Tweed Farms being consistently irradiated with in any way. The greenhouse Tweed Farms buds that we have previously had access to have only every been one strain, Tweed's version of Headband called Yorkshire. They run a pretty clean ship there like an actual biological clean room. Both for the indoor facility and the outdoor, which is sort of mandated that way in the Health Canada regulations anyway.

    And yes I have tried Tweed Farms greenhouse grown cannabis. The only strain they ever released up to today was Yorkshire (Headband) which I ordered many times and it was great both the indoor and greenhouse versions. It was a little different in structure, smell and taste than the previous indoor version, but the core effects remained the same and there were some slight differences. Everything seemed slightly enhanced which was beneficial and I found the clarity to be improved which I like often in my cannabis. I attribute all these different effects to mainly the sun's presence during the cultivation process. It seems to produce slightly different set of effects maybe from the different spectrums of light it offers vs artificial or even the overall intensity.

    I have ordered also the Krypt 91 and Mayberry as they were both $6 and figured what the heck it can't be that bad and I know the greenhouse produces vibrant buds already.

    True connoisseurs would opt for some sun grown and cared for any day.
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    I have reviewed every strain I have ever ordered from Tweed and Aurora on www.lift.com . I have almost 150 reviews there. You can look up my contributions as m1kek9 and read my reviews or just look for mine when searching by strain. I'm also a Brand Ambassador for Lift so I am unbiased to any LP. If you need help with anything or have any questions regarding Lift or the Lift points program please let me know.
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    Tweed Farms Greenhouse grown has impressed me before. The first strain offered to the public that they were using to test the facility was Headband (In Tweed's shop it is titled Yorkshire) which was previously grown at their main location before it was switched. It was a great first and all the consecutive batches until they stopped producing it. It was rarely if ever irradiated, as cheap as $6/gram at one time and just such a versatile and effect


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  9. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    Thank you so much for that bro! :rockon: They will be next order indeed! I really appreciate your feedback! I actually tried some beard brothers concentrate back in the day I think? Black and yellow silicone container? Do they ship free over $220?

    Spoken like a TRUE connoisseur! I love it! This is something I have only just now discovered after 20 years of cannabis use, and 10 years of vaping exclusively. Better late than never! lol

    So, just to confirm - Tweed Farms is greenhouse, and if it's ever irradiated it WILL be stated correct? This is something i've been searching for, since RedeCan cannot meet my need. The only thing even better would be organic greenhouse grown!

    I've had that Headband, but unlike you due to my high tolerance probably couldn't appreciate it, as well as the 27-30% boutique strains i've recently tried. I feel like your tolerance is low, so you can review strains properly, feel the effects properly, and just able to appreciate all the different nuances. I hope to get there too one day soon.

    I guess i'm happy that my girlfriend has tweed as an LP now, they have a decent 20% compassionate pricing, not as good as Tilray's 25%, but between the two I think I will be more than good to go.

    Between these LP's and MOM, again...what a great time to be alive! :rockon:
     
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  10. CheeseSandwich

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    @mikek9 Thanks again! Great post. I'll check out your lift reviews as well.:tup: Looks like these greenhouse strains might be interesting.
     
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  11. mikek9

    mikek9 Vapor Enthusiast

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    I really like Beard Bros so much as they always have such a good selection. Also everything has always been so tasty and appeared to be produced by someone who knows what they are actually doing. Their concentrates are really something else. They retail from around $65-$75/gram at other dispensaries online and in store even up to $80, but if you buy direct from them you get it at a much cheaper price. Their flower prices of $10g are fair, though far from a bargain until you get the $115 1/2oz or the $220 oz. The reason I think the $220 is even an "extra good deal" is because the bud from Beard Brothers is so easily often worth more than $10/g, but they keep it fair. Their general Shatters & Waxes are all $25 per 1/2g and $45 per gram. Also as I mentioned you can mix things up down to the 0.5g for concentrates and for 1/2oz and full oz, you can split them both right down to the gram if you like.

    They carry a nice variety of strains and to me this is the hardest hitting oil I have ever tried from a dispensary. I have spent more money than I would like to say trying shatters and all sorts of concentrates looking for a nice hard hitting one, but was always disappointed. These all seem like the nug runs I used to do. Best Concentrates I have found. Their Live Resin is delicious and other stuff like their award winning distillates.

    The shipping is a little pricey from $15-$25 depending on the size.



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    CBD Skunk Herer (CBD Skunk 1:1 & Jack Herer) (70/30 Sativa Dominant)

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    Live Resin (Concentrate) $45 a half gram $75 a full gram

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    Rosin - $35 a half gram $60 a full gram

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  12. CheeseSandwich

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    So I just logged into Tweed to browse and noticed I now have the 20% compassionate discount because of coming from Bedrocan. I called and they credited me the difference from $6 a gram to $4.80 a gram. So far their customer service has been top notch.
     
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  13. mikek9

    mikek9 Vapor Enthusiast

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    --- No Problem, happy to share the wealth. They are best known for their concentrates, but since bomb concentrates require killer bud to start you may as well sell some of that kill in a dispensary along with your oils and make it big time in Vancouver :)

    @biohacker , YES, Tweed Farms is the name of their Greenhouse facility so anything that says from Tweed Farms or marked with the Tweed Farms logo will be from that facility. It is a massive Greenhouse. I mean small township massive.

    Also, YES, if it is ever irradiated it is stated in the description under additional information. It has the same section for this information on each strain description page. However, you have to remember to look because sometimes a strain hasn't been nuked the past 10 times, but then batch 11 was and you trustingly don't check and place a big order. It has happened to me, but to be honest, it doesn't really seem to be very noticeable to me. There are definitely some terpene and other compounds lost in the gamma irradiation process as it uses heat during the process, but it is said to be an indiscernible amount.

    I'm not going to try to convince anyone that gamma irradiation is good or bad because everyone has their reasons for supporting and opposing things. Personally, I have had some really nice strains that were "cold pasteurized" as Tweed refers to their gamma irradiation process so I always remember that. Anyway, it is used on the industrial scale in the Agriculture sector for certain things. It's just a way to sterilize things. I know there is slight terpene loss, but if one out of twenty batches is irradiated that isn't a terrible thing as long as the potency is there and sometimes it's higher than usual because it was a great batch that just couldn't pass the tests without irradiation. That's the only reason they do it on any regular strain that isn't irradiated regularly.

    Well one thing I can say is that if you signed up with an LP and haven't made a single order up until renewal time I wouldn't expect them to be super nice as they know you just used their company to get legal under the ACMPR and then have been supporting their nemesis the "evil" dispensaries. So, unless you have spent some real money with that provider don't expect them to roll out the red carpet for you when it comes to renewal time.

    Also about " Tilray doesn't irradiate ANY of their strains, and have incredible selection and strains." doesn't really say much about irradiation as if they have strains/crops that don't pass the Health Canada testing they have to pitch that entire crop and destroy it. which happens more than you think with all LPs, especially the ones that don't irradiate. On top of throwing out 4-6+ months of work which could be 5-20kg+ of dried bud, you're losing like maybe $60-80K of revenue from that. Anyway, some LPs that have irradiation do use it to pass inspection, but once they pass it means whatever contaminant was there isn't any longer.
     
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  14. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    I know you've seen the Gamma Irradiation thread that I created, but will just quote something I found back in the day in case others want more information. I do not and will not support this practice.

    I don't agree with this. If I received a script for one month, who is to say when I can order? If my script is current and not expired, I expect to be able to order my product. If they have their shipping rules so be it, however providing CS like that, is a FANTASTIC way to prevent me from renewing (if I even need to renew, not everyone who gets a script for an LP is a cannabis user for life automatically right?). It's also a great way to spread to the word. Smart business plan. As for the dispensaries, most MOM don't require an ACMPR, but rather just photo ID, and storefront dispensaries don't ask for much at all. I don't think people are using Lp's to get legal, just to go to a dispensary, IMO.

    I'm not sure what your point is here Mike, yes I suppose Tilray would either have to know how to grow properly, or toss out product and lose money. I respect that more than just zapping the product and not losing money. Tilray is reasonably priced IMO, and I know you love Tweed and everything but still, some companies (like Tilray) can do it right without the electromagnetic radiation or whatever.

    Again, I don't support gamma irradiation for the reasons posted in the relevant thread. There is no reason to IMO. Customers should be demanding the best.... if some patients require it, that's their choice, but we should be demanding and support NATURAL grown ORGANIC products. Just my opinion.
     
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  15. CheeseSandwich

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    I looked again at tweed's site for mention of "cold pasteurized" or anything to indicate irradiation but it isn't listed on the new site. So, I hounded them a little on facebook and was told that the site will eventually be updated to show better stain info as well as pictures. I also put in another order since now the prices are cheaper and grabbed some Tweed lot #2 and a little more 91 krypt.:clap:
     
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  16. mikek9

    mikek9 Vapor Enthusiast

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    Lot# 2 has helped me so many times. I'm still finishing off the 29% batch which was pretty good. Got the 91 krypt and the strawberry cough since they were both $6. Like I need it since I just made a $400 Beard Brothers order that just arrived today. I love me some tasty kush from the west coast. But I always grab something from tweed whenever they release it because I will get to it eventually. That's why I'm so behind with my reviews for Lift.
     
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  17. CheeseSandwich

    CheeseSandwich Well-Known Member

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    I went to a new dispensary yesterday in the closest city to me and grabbed some great stuff. One strain is some pineapple chunk for $5 a gram that is fantastic for the price. It does lack bag appeal but it smells/tastes great and has a nice solid effect.
    I really didn't NEED to order from Tweed but like you said it'll get used up eventually and the price was right. I'm am pretty keen to try the Lot#2 & Mayberry after reading through some reviews on lift. Hopefully I like the 91 crypt. I don't know if it's just me but I find OG kush is crossed with EVERYTHING lately? Just kinda sick of the same genetics i guess.
     
  18. CheeseSandwich

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    @biohacker
    Tweed seems to have updated their site. Unfortunately I'm seeing "This product has been cold pasteurized" all over the place. Both my orders will be here today, I'll report back as at least 2 of the 3 strains are irradiated.
     
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  19. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    Thanks for the update dude, but it doesn't surprise me based on bedrocan's practices. I'm sticking with Tilray, and if you have the opportunity I suggest you give them a shot. Looking forward to your feedback, my guess is that both of the irradiated strains will smell similar...almost a windex piney kinda ammonia scent. It has been my experience with all irradiated strains i've tried.
     
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  20. CheeseSandwich

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    So I've sampled all 3 strains ...

    Mayberry(strawberry cough) - Piney tasting no berry taste to me. Small fairly dry buds. Has a decent but not strong buzz, good daytime stuff
    Morris (91 Krypt) - faint kush taste. Also small fairly dry buds. Has a great buzz, I think I like this one best.
    Tweed Lot#2 - very earthy, slightly musty taste (not very appealing really). Average size buds on the drier side. Has a fairly potent effect,definitely a good bedtime strain.

    Overall, I'm pleased with what I received. The 2 greenhouse strains are a good bargain at $4.80 a gram. The buds are nothing note worthy IMO but a solid deal at that price. The Lot #2 I'd probably not get again at $7.20/G(compassionate price) I just don't like the taste/smell. Two of the 3 strains were "cold pasteurized" for sure, 1 strain I'm not positive but I'd guess it is. I'd need to try these strains NOT irradiated to know the difference for sure really. They need to work on the taste and nose of these strains though. Great smelling tasting Bud is pretty important to me at least.:2c:
     
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  21. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    So Tweed hiked up the prices of their devices, pretty sad considering the Mighty costs even more than straight from S&B now. It was $375 and now $495...what a joke. As usual, sweet fuck all in stock, and they need to hire more people to answer phones because it's being on hold for an eternity.

    Still think Tilray is the best LP IMO from my experiences with a few of them.
     
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  22. mikek9

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    Good thing I bought mine before the prices changed. Though this could just be a blip and not the Tweed customer store. They used to always have two and you had to go a different route to get to the discounted store.
     
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  23. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    Yeah I remember that, but tried everything...then called, about 5 times before I had to wait for about 20 mins, and then the dude had no idea, came back and just said due to the merger that's the new pricing. Any suggestions? Lemme know if you find anything! Thanks! $375 was a complete steal! But even the Arizer products are a ripoff, so something is up.

    I can't believe how fast the oils sell out!
     
  24. theCerberus

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    That sucks, but I dont see why you have to leave them over it. I mean, just get your script in 5 days before expiry. adjust for it. I honestly dont think any other LP is medical grade. the rest have mids at best. tilray, abcann and aurora have top shelf if you get lucky. tweed, emblem and mettrum are mids. and dont get me started about the LPs who dont flush....

    Oh hey its, not like LP oils are anything special, they aren't concentrates. Just use AVB to make your own oil. free edibles.

    Oh and my opinion of Gamma Irradiation is that the LP can't keep the product clean and it is a drastic band-aid last minute fix. I don't buy the excuse that its for "immunocompromised" people because Tweed promised never to gamma irradiate when they first opened, only to have their first stock gamma irradiated (or it wouldnt sell). they wrote the definition themselves. know what its for. cannabis that failed testing.

    Cold pasteurized products lose terpenes. For example Super Lemon Haze just smells generic and lemony without the signature balmy spice of haze. They make strains less potent, and thus lose medical value.
     
  25. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    Because there are too many other good choices out there that aren't as frustrating. I'll stick with Tilray, they also have the best compassionate pricing so it's pretty much a no brainer considering the professionalism and quality. I remember your flushing rants, but I disagree that Tweed has "mids" as you say. Some of us have tried all their awesome dna genetics and leafs by snoop strains, and they are definitely not mids. I know that % tHC testing isn't everything, but those were some VERY potent meds. Most of my Tilray strains weren't mids either. I just wish RedeCan didn't gamma irradiate, these days i'm more into the natural sunkissed outdoor grown, so use MOM's.

    Oils/tinctures is a recent discovery, and works really well. My AVB ends up in the trash, i'm not hard up for cash and think it's the most vile substance on the planet. Even free, no thanks...just nasty, and the effects do not work for me whatsoever.

    Could not agree more, and I find soooo many of these LP strains all smell the same! Very generic lemony and piney, and many look the same too. Nearly all are too dry it almost seems.
     
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