Caffeine and Vapor.

[djonkoman]

parades, what do you mean, do you mean like on a dancefloor grabbing eachothers shoulders and walking that way, or in decorated carts that ride trough streets with spectators along the streets?

maybe it's just beer, I mostly drink beer and sometimes liquor, a good whiskey for example, or beerenburg(a local herbal liquor), kruidennbitter is nice too(a sweet herbalbased liquor), and in italy I drank a lot of sambucca
but most often beer, and I don't drink much to begin with, so liquor is even less often

never really liked wine tough, but honeywine(mede, but I thik that's just a dutch name, coud be mead or so in english) can be nice.

 

[jeffp]

Any kind of parade where there's marching I equate with beer; as if there's somehow a chemical in beer that causes a person to want to march in unism with a group. Wine drinkers, by contrast, tend to be a little more off to the side and observers.

 

[djonkoman]

I still don't really get what you mean by a parade, but maybe I kind of get what you mean, I notice that around here wine is more something drunk at home, or by women, about every bar or club and it's a man drinking it high chance it's beer. what you describe I would maybe associate with the dutch musicscene(a kind of music in dutch with pretty much all songtexts about love/lost love etc), and those concerts are also famous for the beershowers.
just like villageparties
but also in bars where you just sit talking with friends beer is the common drink

 

[mscm888]

Long before I discovered vaporizing, I enjoyed a wake and bake followed by a good cup of coffee. After discovering vaporizing, I still do.

 

[VaporNation]

Had a nice big mug of some Dunkin Donuts hazelnut coffee and some absolute fire Everest OG to start the morning... Happy St. Patrick's day FC!

 

[NewSchoolExplorer]

I love both but usually I do not mix them unless I have the day off mainly because I like to be very productive which caffeine helps me with and cannabis usually makes me relaxed (which kind of affects my productivity).

BTW: How does being high affect your ability to understand, memorize, and grasp new concept? For me I know that it really affects me and try to avoid it when.

 

[Vicki]

Honestly, I didn't think there was anything I could love as much as my MFLB. I was wrong. We recently got a Keurig K-Cup hot beverage brewer, and we absolutely LOVE it!! I can't imagine living without this thing! De ja vu back to when I first got my MFLB.

Now, every morning, I have my cup of coffee and my small MFLB session.

 

[Havelock Vetenari]

As i couldn't imagine being without my www.genecafe.com,nothing beats fresh!

Mmm,for some reason the link doesn't seem to work,if you're interested it's a coffeebeanroaster,i buy my coffeebeans green.
Googling it should get you there or maybe this link works : http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/coffee-roasters/drum-roasters/gene-cafe-roaster-black.html

 

[djonkoman]

I love both but usually I do not mix them unless I have the day off mainly because I like to be very productive which caffeine helps me with and cannabis usually makes me relaxed (which kind of affects my productivity).

BTW: How does being high affect your ability to understand, memorize, and grasp new concept? For me I know that it really affects me and try to avoid it when.

understanding/grasping usually is a lot easier/better when I'm high. depends a bit on the subject tough, things I'm not good at I'm still bad at and can be worse at(anything mathrelated for example)
but for example I love watching documentaries that make me think while vaping a good sativa, really makes my thoughts race about that subject, and makes me concentrate so much on it I forget everything else, and usually my insght/understanding is also a bit better

memorizing on the other hand isn't improved and depending on the circumstances gets worse, I'm not good at memorizing anyway, and especially if I'm a little tired or really high, not just buzzed memorizing things becomes harder. it does improve my readingspeed tough

all in all my good qualities get improved but things I'm bad at I get worse at.
I do remember one exception tough, in highschool I had a free hour before latin once, and I smoked with one or multiple friends, usually I did nothing during latinclass and was very boring, but that one time it suddenly became a fun puzzle, and that was the only time ever (I think) I spend the entire latinlesson translating

 

[NewSchoolExplorer]

@djonkoman: Thanks for your reply, I do find the same but when I vape I VAPE and get lifted above cloud 9 but than again I do have occasions with efficient low dosage to reach that state of mind and accomplish things with greater concentrated focus as you described.

Much Love Peace n Pot all (going to have a latte early morning )

 

[djonkoman]

I think it would be hard for me to vape so much that my functionality significantly decreases/above cloud 9, I've only had a few times where I think I wouldn't have functioned well, and all those times were from combustion, the most extreme I remember is that I was walking trough the city with a friend, and we were both talking to eachother but we were both too high to understand/listen to the other, so we just both told our seperate things/stories
and when I just started smoking I would roll fat joints, others estimated I put around 2 grams in it and would smoke a few within a few hours, only 1 night a week. that would also make me pretty wasted, but if I had too I could still function pretty well

for me it's more motivation, and with indica's or hybrids I fall asleep so can't do anything either

 

[kertong]

I discovered this myself too, accidentally when I was just using a freshly brewed espresso at work to blow vapor into so that my omicron/MFLB vapor odors mix with the coffee and are totally hidden (I've been vaping in my cube for over an year this way).

I usually do this in the mornings too, and I definitely noticed! I came into work one day stoney and slow, relaxed and body buzzing off of a nice stoney indica (I think it was LA confidential). Topped off an hour after I got into work with the MFLB, while drinking and blowing into my espresso.

Instant Sativa Conversion!! My stony indica high turned into an immensely cerebral, "in my head" high. Very alert, aware, sharp, yet I had the saturated, slow, and comforting stony feeling. It was great.

I think this is why europeans love to mix weed with tobacco as well - a mild stimulant high mixed with the slow and leisurely effects of a good high can have profound effects. Plus weed is crazy expensive out there I hear.

 

[towelieeeee]

This cold-brewed coffee sounds intriguing! I'm gonna have to give that a shot today... I've noticed that I seem to be sensitive to caffeine, in that too much can make me *very* jittery and anxious, which in turns scatters my thought process... Really detrimental to getting things done sometimes! :/

Qbit, do you re-heat your cold coffee for consumption with a quick zap of the microwave? Or... something else?

Incidentally, little bits and pieces of random info like this are why I love this forum

 

[towelieeeee]

(I've been vaping in my cube for over an year this way).

You, sir, have huge balls.

 

[Longbones]

I try not mix healthy with unhealthy.. especially vape and unhealthy stuff[...] It might feel good ... but it will probably make you a total crap especially on empty stomack.. Also when caffeine wears off and you start to feel sleepy...

I also try to be healthy, apart from my vaping habit. However, calling coffee 'unhealthy' is a huge stretch. While it does have an array of impacts on the body, there has never been a study proving coffee is detrimental to general health. In fact, it's beneficial in several ways.

I get a 'burnt out' feeling from coffee too if I'm low on sleep (and sometimes otherwise)—but surprisingly that doesn't happen when I'm also vaping during that period. Hmm...

However, I only recently started experiencing a 'crash' from caffeine (on its own)...and definitely have stopped drinking so much since I noticed that. Interesting to see you get the same effect.

That said, I love coffee with my weed

 

[Qbit]

Qbit, do you re-heat your cold coffee for consumption with a quick zap of the microwave? Or... something else?

Yeah I usually reheat it (microwave), but it's also great for iced coffee. One great way to make iced coffee is in a Vietnamese style where you take (extra strength) cold-brew coffee and add it to a glass full of crushed ice along with condensed milk. Delicious.

But as I already said before, I'm no expert on the subject of cold-brew coffee (or coffee in general). I've just read some stuff on other websites and made it a few times. You'll find more comprehensive info elsewhere.

 

[djonkoman]

I think this is why europeans love to mix weed with tobacco as well - a mild stimulant high mixed with the slow and leisurely effects of a good high can have profound effects. Plus weed is crazy expensive out there I hear.

mixing with tobacco gives a more stoney effect, not more headhigh.

my guess as to why it's so common around here is that from what I've heard in the 70's everyone here smoked hash(especially a lot of import from morocco, but also afghan, nepal, libanon etc). only some immigrants smoked weed. and if you smoke hash in a joint you have to fill it up with something, so tobacco was a logical choice for that.
while in the US you had more import from south america, wich is all weed, so no filler needed to smoke it in joints
over time it became custom, and if I now ask my friends why they mix it, the answers vary from tastes better, more efficient with weed, being able to continuesly smoke joints without getting too stoned or go trough so much weed
and another reason that's very common is 'it burns better', a lot of people around here think weed needs tobacco to properly burn. some, but that are few or the more uninformed, are even surprised when they hear weed can be smoked pure/without tobacco in a joint
by now it's so common that new smokers learn to roll with tobacco from the start, and a stoner around here without tobacco is like an american stoner without pipe or lighter
one of my friends even took halfburned cigs out of his ashtray once to harvest the tobacco for a joint when he was out of tobacco(he told that once, and told the joint tasted nasty)
so the primary reason is just that they're used to mixing it with tobacco

 

[sessnet]

^ Cool stuff - didn't know!

 

[Frederick McGuire]

Most people who I know "spin" their weed with tobacco.
I never did it, even before I started vaping.

I just couldn't understand the logic, since it was primarily "it makes my weed go further, and gets me just as high".
No, it doesn't.
It makes your weed last longer, and gets you a little less higher.
Tobacco =/=THC

I've also heard that it makes the smoke smoother, but I never really experienced that either (maybe because I'm not a cig smoker?)

I remember once looking up how to roll a joint on YouTube ( you've gotta learn somewhere, right?), and the instructional video basically showed a little nug (I'd guess 0.2g max) ground up, mixed with tobacco, and used to roll 3 joints...

 

[gn0me]

For you coffee junkies out there, try out an Aeropress.... it's similar to cold brew in having low acidity, and has the flavor profile of a french press without the grit in the bottom of the cup. Easily the best coffeemaker that exists. I like pulling shots on a La Pavoni lever machine, but for everyday use it's aeropress all the way.

The best iced coffee you'll ever have is aeropress brewed over some fresh ice cubes. The coffee comes out of the press strong so the melting ice dilutes it into the most unimaginably delicious nectar of life. I wish it wasn't bedtime... I'm getting myself all ramped up for the juice ^_^

 

[djonkoman]

Most people who I know "spin" their weed with tobacco.
I never did it, even before I started vaping.

I just couldn't understand the logic, since it was primarily "it makes my weed go further, and gets me just as high".
No, it doesn't.
It makes your weed last longer, and gets you a little less higher.
Tobacco =/=THC

I've also heard that it makes the smoke smoother, but I never really experienced that either (maybe because I'm not a cig smoker?)

I remember once looking up how to roll a joint on YouTube ( you've gotta learn somewhere, right?), and the instructional video basically showed a little nug (I'd guess 0.2g max) ground up, mixed with tobacco, and used to roll 3 joints...

similar here, when I just started smoking I only smoked joints, but I always smoked pure.
never liked tobacco, my first drag of a cig was right after my first joint, so I just started out smoking it pure since to me tobacco is a lot harsher on my troath. and also tastes nasty, and I've always disliked the nicotine-kick. but werdly enough, to my tobaccosmokingfriends mixed wth tobacco is smoother. but to other friends that also don't smoke tobacco, pure weed is smoother.

I have rolled joints that weak tough, but not for myself. I have a friend who only smokes ocassionally, and he knows a guy who also smokes ocassionally but even less often, and that friend is the closest to a stoner he knows. but that guy knows someone who grows somehow, but can't roll. so about once a year or so he gets some weed from that grower he knows and asks that friend to roll about 20 joints from it, but he can't roll either so he asks us(=me and some other friends that can roll).
first time that guy had complained they were too strong, he and his friends all went bad. so after that we roll them very, very weak. from the weed we get we take about half to thwo third away, then mix the remaining woth a half pack to a full pack of rolling tobacco, and roll 20-30 joints from that. I'm surprised they can even get high from that, but they don't complain it's too strong anymore and are satisfied now. and we get some free weed from it, only thing we have to do is roll some joints

unfortunatly, last time the weed that was delivered was trim with a lot of cathairs in it... the previous times it was pretty good weed, about average commercial quality for around here, so for free weed that's pretty good.

it doesn't happen often tough, maybe twice a year or so

 

[djonkoman]

Most people who I know "spin" their weed with tobacco.
I never did it, even before I started vaping.

I just couldn't understand the logic, since it was primarily "it makes my weed go further, and gets me just as high".
No, it doesn't.
It makes your weed last longer, and gets you a little less higher.
Tobacco =/=THC

I've also heard that it makes the smoke smoother, but I never really experienced that either (maybe because I'm not a cig smoker?)

I remember once looking up how to roll a joint on YouTube ( you've gotta learn somewhere, right?), and the instructional video basically showed a little nug (I'd guess 0.2g max) ground up, mixed with tobacco, and used to roll 3 joints...

similar here, when I just started smoking I only smoked joints, but I always smoked pure.
never liked tobacco, my first drag of a cig was right after my first joint, so I just started out smoking it pure since to me tobacco is a lot harsher on my troath. and also tastes nasty, and I've always disliked the nicotine-kick. but werdly enough, to my tobaccosmokingfriends mixed wth tobacco is smoother. but to other friends that also don't smoke tobacco, pure weed is smoother.

I have rolled joints that weak tough, but not for myself. I have a friend who only smokes ocassionally, and he knows a guy who also smokes ocassionally but even less often, and that friend is the closest to a stoner he knows. but that guy knows someone who grows somehow, but can't roll. so about once a year or so he gets some weed from that grower he knows and asks that friend to roll about 20 joints from it, but he can't roll either so he asks us(=me and some other friends that can roll).
first time that guy had complained they were too strong, he and his friends all went bad. so after that we roll them very, very weak. from the weed we get we take about half to thwo third away, then mix the remaining woth a half pack to a full pack of rolling tobacco, and roll 20-30 joints from that. I'm surprised they can even get high from that, but they don't complain it's too strong anymore and are satisfied now. and we get some free weed from it, only thing we have to do is roll some joints

unfortunatly, last time the weed that was delivered was trim with a lot of cathairs in it... the previous times it was pretty good weed, about average commercial quality for around here, so for free weed that's pretty good.

it doesn't happen often tough, maybe twice a year or so

 

[t-dub]

so for free weed that's pretty good.

Those are the 2 magic words djonk, "free" and "weed" its one of the best feelings in the world.

 

[djonkoman]

indeed it is, me and 2 friends even got 100 grams for free once, but we temporarly left it at someone else's house in the city and took each some out of it with us home, but the guy who gave it to us came over there later and the previous night he had slept there and made a mess because he got drunk, and to make up for that he gave it away again to that guy who lived there, while he had already given it to us previously... but I'm not complaining, we still had the free weed we took home with us

(the reason we got it was because we found a kilo for him that he had lost)

 

[NewSchoolExplorer]

Drinking a latte after a good TV Rev sesh . I think it does turn indicas to more sativa like but that just might be the caffeine combo.


Time to get some work done!!!