Arizer Solo

X24

Well-Known Member
Seven full sessions? Damn. I think that seals the deal. One way or another (trade or purchasing) a solo will be mine.

I generally keep it to 1 or 2 sessions a day. Seven seems like enough buffer room for a nice vaping day with a couple other vaporists. Perfect :)
 
X24,

mvapes

Scratchin' Glass!
Accessory Maker
I really cant believe that there are still no PVHES in yet. It will be my turn to get the HI before those things come in.... :ugh:
 
mvapes,

Gobrian

Well-Known Member
Yeah - so as a summary of my test, (which were rather uncontrolled - I did stems for a couple, then just ran it alone for many cycles):

I got through 12 stems, with the indicator light showing battery level at 0 since the 4th stem.
I got to half way through the 13th stem and the charge light came on.

Does this compare to what you guys are getting?
Really weird the indicator does that, really threw me off.
 
Gobrian,

Kief

Medicated
Yeah - so as a summary of my test, (which were rather uncontrolled - I did stems for a couple, then just ran it alone for many cycles):

I got through 12 stems, with the indicator light showing battery level at 0 since the 4th stem.
I got to half way through the 13th stem and the charge light came on.

Does this compare to what you guys are getting?
Really weird the indicator does that, really threw me off.

Yes, I think you are getting plenty of cycles out of it. It's just the battery indicator that's faulty, this small issue has come up with the newest M1Dxxx & M1Axxx serial numbers. I have not read about anyone dealing with the warranty for this issue, but iIm sure it could be done. IIRC, everyone that posted about this problem wasn't worried enough to send their Solo away. Personally, I really like my working battery indicator and hope it stays that way. If you aren't happy, I'm sure Randy @Puffitup will make it right.
 
Kief,

Gobrian

Well-Known Member
Yes, I think you are getting plenty of cycles out of it. It's just the battery indicator that's faulty, this small issue has come up with the newest M1Dxxx & M1Axxx serial numbers. I have not read about anyone dealing with the warranty for this issue, but iIm sure it could be done. IIRC, everyone that posted about this problem wasn't worried enough to send their Solo away. Personally, I really like my working battery indicator and hope it stays that way. If you aren't happy, I'm sure Randy @Puffitup will make it right.

I definitely feel like having a working battery indicator is something that needs to be fixed, especially if older models that are essentially the same thing, except with a working indicator in this case, are available for cheaper. I feel like I made a bad decision with this new information.

If this issue persists I will have to contact Randy...

Also from PuffItUp website:
"Easy to use and portable, the compact and lightweight design of the Arizer Solo has a high quality lithium-ion battery with six hours of continuous use."

Mine worked for 2 and something..... I feel like a jack ass.






Another thing, can someone that has both PV and Ed's stems compare them? I am trying to choose....
(and that stealth one looks sick too with the McD's cup!!)
 
Gobrian,
In my experience if your looking for airflow PV's can't be beat. But Ed's is an improvement over stock and has the can't break thing going. So they both are nice and if you can afford both go for it.
 
I know I am buying the PVHES stems when they come out.. Does anyone have any experience with the straight turbo? It says it has a large single bore for the screen. I am imagining it being a large hole instead of the 4 small ones that are standard? I sure am having trouble deciding the turbo + shorty or straight + shorty. :science:
 
Highnstein,

jambandphan03

in flavor country
I am also curious about the turbo, and how it functions. It is my understanding that it is a large hole with a ring to catch a screen on so your load stays in the bowl. I do have the shortie straight PVHES stem from the first batch, and I love the small bowl size. It just seems to toast more thoroughly and evenly as well as being conservative.
 
jambandphan03,

poonman

Well-Known Member
I definitely feel like having a working battery indicator is something that needs to be fixed, especially if older models that are essentially the same thing, except with a working indicator in this case, are available for cheaper. I feel like I made a bad decision with this new information.

If this issue persists I will have to contact Randy...

Also from PuffItUp website:
"Easy to use and portable, the compact and lightweight design of the Arizer Solo has a high quality lithium-ion battery with six hours of continuous use."

Mine worked for 2 and something..... I feel like a jack ass.






Another thing, can someone that has both PV and Ed's stems compare them? I am trying to choose....
(and that stealth one looks sick too with the McD's cup!!)

Yeah , they advertise laptop batteries to last up to 4 hours also ....unless you go on the net !
Then it's more like 1 hour , depending on what you're surfing . And cell phones too .
Maybe they meant 6 hours if you're using temp. setting 1 . LoL

When you posted earlier, you went thru 12 stems .
I was wondering the length of time it took to go thru 12 stems ?
But 2 to 2 1/2 hours of Straight Usage ? is what I've been getting , using temp. setting 5 to 6 .
The indicator light is a different story though .
 
poonman,

Gobrian

Well-Known Member
Yeah , they advertise laptop batteries to last up to 4 hours also ....unless you go on the net !
Then it's more like 1 hour , depending on what you're surfing . And cell phones too .
Maybe they meant 6 hours if you're using temp. setting 1 . LoL

When you posted earlier, you went thru 12 stems .
I was wondering the length of time it took to go thru 12 stems ?
But 2 to 2 1/2 hours of Straight Usage ? is what I've been getting , using temp. setting 5 to 6 .
The indicator light is a different story though .

Right, I understand the common perception of claims is that they are dishonest and deceitful, and I knew that some body was going to say that, but 2.5/6 hours?
I had it at temps 3-4 (mostly 4)

The indicator light... nothing really can be said about that other than IT DOES NOT WORK, except to educate and aware people about its existence. Maybe a fix will be out, who knows...
 
Gobrian,

X24

Well-Known Member
If I'm understanding this correctly, you got 12 sessions out of it? I know it's user-dependant, but that seems like plenty off of a charge.
 

shredhead

Specialist
Right, I understand the common perception of claims is that they are dishonest and deceitful, and I knew that some body was going to say that, but 2.5/6 hours?
I had it at temps 3-4 (mostly 4)

The indicator light... nothing really can be said about that other than IT DOES NOT WORK, except to educate and aware people about its existence. Maybe a fix will be out, who knows...
But they made it that way to you charge it before 40% and therfore your battery will last LONGER! Its actually a good thing! If you run your battery full to dead everytime it's gunna crap out faster!
 
shredhead,

mr_

Well-Known Member
12-13 sessions is pretty dang good, but even that number is probably even less if you're actually drawing vapor from there. Just having it on puts zero stress on the unit.

My M106 gets me about 7-8 sessions at temp 5. Had 5 sessions y'day for 12 mins each and the battery level dropped from 7 to 5. I never let it really let the battery level drop below 3.

Also, them claiming 6 hours is probably setting 1 without drawing, I'm almost positive no one expected it to last 6 full hours of continuous use.

Atleast 8 sessions or so out of a full charge is pretty dang good, I dont think theres a portable yet that has better battery life than the Solo

The new software makes sense too, it makes people charge their batteries sooner so it lasts longer. After 5-6 stems my Solo is on the charger
 
mr_,

Gobrian

Well-Known Member
12-13 sessions is pretty dang good, but even that number is probably even less if you're actually drawing vapor from there. Just having it on puts zero stress on the unit.

My M106 gets me about 7-8 sessions at temp 5. Had 5 sessions y'day for 12 mins each and the battery level dropped from 7 to 5. I never let it really let the battery level drop below 3.

Also, them claiming 6 hours is probably setting 1 without drawing, I'm almost positive no one expected it to last 6 full hours of continuous use.

Atleast 8 sessions or so out of a full charge is pretty dang good, I dont think theres a portable yet that has better battery life than the Solo

The new software makes sense too, it makes people charge their batteries sooner so it lasts longer. After 5-6 stems my Solo is on the charger

A non-functioning battery reader will improve battery life?


Edit: I don't want to say NON FUNCTIONING in the way that it's not working the way it's meant to, but that the way it's meant to work, does not display your actual current battery level.
 
Gobrian,

shredhead

Specialist
A non-functioning battery reader will improve battery life?


Edit: I don't want to say NON FUNCTIONING in the way that it's not working the way it's meant to, but that the way it's meant to work, does not display your actual current battery level.
Yes it improves the number of battery cycles your battery uses up. These batteries only have around 350 cycles I think I read somewhere? But if you charge before it gets below 40% all the time it wont use up a battery cycle thus making the battery last longer in the long run.
 
shredhead,

X24

Well-Known Member
More than you've probably ever wanted to know about Li-Ion batteries and their lifespan:

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries


While I can agree it's a bit deceiving to manipulate the battery life display in such a manner, and perhaps they could have went about doing it a different way, irregular intervals or something, you *really* should avoid having a high average depth of discharge. It wouldn't be inconceivable to double your battery's usable lifespan by keeping the depth of discharge low.

Besides, this way you have reserve juice for emergencies, :D.
 
X24,

Gobrian

Well-Known Member
More than you've probably ever wanted to know about Li-Ion batteries and their lifespan:

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries


While I can agree it's a bit deceiving to manipulate the battery life display in such a manner, and perhaps they could have went about doing it a different way, irregular intervals or something, you *really* should avoid having a high average depth of discharge. It wouldn't be inconceivable to double your battery's usable lifespan by keeping the depth of discharge low.

Besides, this way you have reserve juice for emergencies, :D.

Interesting read... interesting idea to make the customer think they are out of juice so they charge, and conserve battery life in the long run.

Also, thinking that 2.5 hours or so (this was alone btw, not sucking on stems, so who knows what it will be normally, i know LESS due to sucking/heat transfer to glass), to you "seems like plenty off of a charge"... falls into the whole OPINION IS NOT FACT idea.

I was directed to the site, saw this: http://puffitup.blogspot.com/2012/09/arizer-solo-review-46.html
What is stated there is untrue, as well as the product page, and feel a little deceived man.



Edit:
If a month from now a new model # comes out, and they fix this battery situation...
 
Gobrian,

X24

Well-Known Member
Interesting read... interesting idea to make the customer think they are out of juice so they charge, and conserve battery life in the long run.

Also, thinking that 2.5 hours or so (this was alone btw, not sucking on stems, so who knows what it will be normally, i know LESS due to sucking/heat transfer to glass), to you "seems like plenty off of a charge"... falls into the whole OPINION IS NOT FACT idea.

I was directed to the site, saw this: http://puffitup.blogspot.com/2012/09/arizer-solo-review-46.html
What is stated there is untrue, as well as the product page, and feel a little deceived man.



Edit:
If a month from now a new model # comes out, and they fix this battery situation...


Completely understandable!

I misunderstood your situation a bit. I, probably for lack of attention paid, thought you vaped 12 straight stems (one heck of a day that would be) and were disappointed. Makes much more sense to be frustrated in this situation.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they tweaked future models a bit more yet.

Apologies if my tone wasn't clear, and I hope you can get your issues ironed out through puffitup! Do let FC know if this was, in fact, a new design tweak or somehow a fluke.
 
X24,

Gobrian

Well-Known Member
Completely understandable!

I misunderstood your situation a bit. I, probably for lack of attention paid, thought you vaped 12 straight stems (one heck of a day that would be) and were disappointed. Makes much more sense to be frustrated in this situation.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they tweaked future models a bit more yet.

Apologies if my tone wasn't clear, and I hope you can get your issues ironed out through puffitup! Do let FC know if this was, in fact, a new design tweak or somehow a fluke.

No prob. It was my intention to let people know in the first place, as I have learned a lot from this site myself (4th vape through the years)

I will wait until actual facts come out, another member with a new model posts his findings, or about another week to contact Randy at PiU... I've had this device for a little over a week now


Also I am trying to get my hands on a PVHES Turbo stem, look out for a review :)
 
Gobrian,
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