My stainless steel apollo XLR unit results in slightly burned weed at any temperature higher than #5 on the dial while using indoors only. This happens after 45-60 mins of being on. When I use it outside it seems to work on the numbers it should (6-8). Even when I keep the unit on #4 for an hour or 2 (indoors), the handle will get slightly warm sometimes, and noticeably warmer on any number higher. Does anybody else run their unit at #5 or less on the dial for weed when inside?
Discontinued Sublimator XLR
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Frederick McGuire
Aggressively Loungey
I only use mine inside, and I use 8/9 for flowers.
Gets them very toasted, but no risk of combustion.
Frederick McGuire
Aggressively Loungey
I got mine from planet vape.
I've had nothing but positive experiences ordering from them.
Their packages make it to Oz pretty quick.
I'm pretty sure they aren't allowed to offer an FC discount on the sub, but you might be able to get something extra thrown in if you ask them about it
I've had nothing but positive experiences ordering from them.
Their packages make it to Oz pretty quick.
I'm pretty sure they aren't allowed to offer an FC discount on the sub, but you might be able to get something extra thrown in if you ask them about it
Sublimator427
Well-Known Member
First time posting here. Have been reading for a while. Sublimator basically swooped in and rescued me from combustion. Only relatively recently discovered I enjoy the herb (1 year ago) but was over combustion real quick between the high rate of consumption and the invasive stank and the general hatred of depositing plant tar in my system. I was a chronic bronchitis sufferer in childhood so that was just not going to work. Messed around with Arizer's products when I first started transitioning, the Solo and the Extreme Q. They solved the combustion problem but the vapor was anemic compared to smoking, the effect just wasn't quite as satisfying.
In came the Sublimator, truly the "Have your cake and eat it too" system for vapor enthusiasts. I remember I was shopping for different glassware for the Arizer Solo on Planet Vape's website when I first saw the scrolling ad. Looked it up on YouTube to see it in action, had a FatBoy Stainless unit built up and ordered the next day. Had it for about 6 months now, absolutely no issues and still can't get over the novelty of practically drinking vapor milk out of the thing. My Jamaican friend who naturally prefers combustion gets absolutely wrecked every time he tries it. His assessment is pretty funny - "You white people and your artificial sorcery..."
One observation I've had - Everyone hates that 1 hour timer with such a passion. Does everyone here realize you can just double tap the knob for an instant timer reset? Mine doesn't even reset the temp. I just sit there and remember I haven't hit it in a while, double tap, and it's done. It's a smart feature for all the reasons Enrico has given. If you really have that much of a problem with a single extra second of effort, you pretty much deserve your non-enjoyment of literally the best thing on the market right now
In came the Sublimator, truly the "Have your cake and eat it too" system for vapor enthusiasts. I remember I was shopping for different glassware for the Arizer Solo on Planet Vape's website when I first saw the scrolling ad. Looked it up on YouTube to see it in action, had a FatBoy Stainless unit built up and ordered the next day. Had it for about 6 months now, absolutely no issues and still can't get over the novelty of practically drinking vapor milk out of the thing. My Jamaican friend who naturally prefers combustion gets absolutely wrecked every time he tries it. His assessment is pretty funny - "You white people and your artificial sorcery..."
One observation I've had - Everyone hates that 1 hour timer with such a passion. Does everyone here realize you can just double tap the knob for an instant timer reset? Mine doesn't even reset the temp. I just sit there and remember I haven't hit it in a while, double tap, and it's done. It's a smart feature for all the reasons Enrico has given. If you really have that much of a problem with a single extra second of effort, you pretty much deserve your non-enjoyment of literally the best thing on the market right now
Frederick McGuire
Aggressively Loungey
Do I really need to do an ELI5 breakdown for you?One observation I've had - Everyone hates that 1 hour timer with such a passion. Does everyone here realize you can just double tap the knob for an instant timer reset? Mine doesn't even reset the temp. I just sit there and remember I haven't hit it in a while, double tap, and it's done. It's a smart feature for all the reasons Enrico has given. If you really have that much of a problem with a single extra second of effort, you pretty much deserve your non-enjoyment of literally the best thing on the market right now
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is all in good fun, but that paragraph really annoyed me...
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Sorry for sounding cranky, welcome to FC
Sublimator427
Well-Known Member
Don't know what you mean mate, sorry you're annoyed. It's just the truth. All the energy that goes into hating on the timer seems a bit pointless when it's so easy to reset. That's how it is with mine anyway.
EDIT: Reading back a page, I didn't even notice someone else has already pointed this out. Written by brucee10:
"...My controller is out on an RMA right now and I couldn't test it. When it was working, I would use the knob to turn it off and then quickly back on [to] reset the timer and the temp stayed set..."
So there you have it guys. Unless there's some scenario where not all the controllers left the factory with this ability, that's really all it takes.
EDIT: Reading back a page, I didn't even notice someone else has already pointed this out. Written by brucee10:
"...My controller is out on an RMA right now and I couldn't test it. When it was working, I would use the knob to turn it off and then quickly back on [to] reset the timer and the temp stayed set..."
So there you have it guys. Unless there's some scenario where not all the controllers left the factory with this ability, that's really all it takes.
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My problem is I get subbed out and then I forget to restart it every hour and it's cold when I want to hit it. It's definitely a First World problem, but the rest of the Sublimator is quite good.
Turns out my RMA was over a blown fuse. Definitely going to start keeping a few on hand since my apartment has pretty dodgy wiring.
Sublimator427
Well-Known Member
I used to run into that as well, it's inevitable by nature of what we're doing here lol. What I've done is to include the reset in my routine after a bowl is finished. Dump the load, put the eject-able screen back, double-tap controller. It's muscle memory by now, and I don't wait longer than an hour between packs so it works perfectly for me.
I figure the only users that are truly SOL with the timer are the ones that want to have the sub hot and ready to go at absolutely all times. I personally wouldn't advocate this for the same reasons Enrico provides - heater life and fire hazard. He's smart to protect himself, who knows what nonsense he could be strung up for in this sue-happy day and age...
I figure the only users that are truly SOL with the timer are the ones that want to have the sub hot and ready to go at absolutely all times. I personally wouldn't advocate this for the same reasons Enrico provides - heater life and fire hazard. He's smart to protect himself, who knows what nonsense he could be strung up for in this sue-happy day and age...
As I have previously posted, tapping the monkey controller off and back on does not retain the temperature setting for my Apollo.
I'm fairly certain that's how they were originally, but my Sub is an early XLR so it's possible Enrico fixed that particular 'feature' in later models.
Oh, and this . . .
Well of course, naturally
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Vapodudule
Well-Known Member
@Sublimator427
The operation of simple double tap does not work for me. You have to double tap then dial up the temp you want. And to avoid overcooked sh*t in your sub you need to wash it very regularly.
I think also timer feature is NOT good, the point that you have to include it to the thing is out of bound just like the heating element life #betterchoosecomponents
ME do not like timer feature.
. This thing takes 1/2 hour to perform and you have 1 hour timer= just f*cking non sense. I am tired of vapes requiring all sort of monkeying in addition to the classical/original feature i already paid for...The sub is the perfect example of borderline device.
If any one conclude to a safe and recognized method to disable it in the monkey controller, i will.
Disapointed by few things already debated also.
The operation of simple double tap does not work for me. You have to double tap then dial up the temp you want. And to avoid overcooked sh*t in your sub you need to wash it very regularly.
I think also timer feature is NOT good, the point that you have to include it to the thing is out of bound just like the heating element life #betterchoosecomponents
ME do not like timer feature.
. This thing takes 1/2 hour to perform and you have 1 hour timer= just f*cking non sense. I am tired of vapes requiring all sort of monkeying in addition to the classical/original feature i already paid for...The sub is the perfect example of borderline device.If any one conclude to a safe and recognized method to disable it in the monkey controller, i will.
Disapointed by few things already debated also.
Sublimator427
Well-Known Member
It seems real world tests have proven that these controllers are a mixed bag from the factory. It's unfortunate not all of them have that super useful reset capability. If I got stuck with one of the inferior controllers I would honestly ask for a warranty replacement. I guess I just happened to get lucky and got one of the good controllers.
MGG
Well-Known Member
tbh I agree I don't think tapping it on and off is as big of a deal as people on here make it out to be, like if you're sooo high you can't remember to turn something on and off within an hour period then you should take a break. And worse case scenario you're a bit late and have to wait maybe 10-20mins for it to heat up again (unless you've left it really long). Worst case scenario you could set yourself a little alarm if you're really concerned. Though I fully support the people out their trying to hack their devices and I wish you the best of luck and hope you succeed because if it turns out not to be too much work/effort to do and the risk is minimal then i'd definitely do it to my controller, at the end of the day the sublimator is still worth it despite what I consider a very minor nuisance that exists on plenty of vaporizers including the vapexhale cloud and the mighty I both own but doesn't stop them from being awesome vaporizers too.
Sublimator427
Well-Known Member
Oh and also just for the record, my sub does not take a half hour to heat up, and I have the stainless Apollo to boot. I do set it on max at first, and it's ready to go in 10-15 minutes depending on how cold my AC is running. Mine also does not burn anything beyond level 8, exactly as designed and regardless of cleaning. I use the ejectable Iolite screen like Enrico so I only have to scrape the atomizer with the moon tool once in a while to keep the airways clear. The burning and voltage control problems likely stem from the bad batch of controllers.
Overall I am saddened to hear that some percentage of these units left the factory faulty and it's translated to a lot of dissatisfaction here. I would again suggest to make a case for a warranty replacement if you got one of the crappier controllers with your sub. The ones that operate properly truly make the sub experience as enjoyable as intended.
Overall I am saddened to hear that some percentage of these units left the factory faulty and it's translated to a lot of dissatisfaction here. I would again suggest to make a case for a warranty replacement if you got one of the crappier controllers with your sub. The ones that operate properly truly make the sub experience as enjoyable as intended.
Been Vapin
Fringe Class
Week 4 of RMA process here and nothing has been accomplished. Sublimator is an awful company to deal with.
They must still be using Comcast as their business model.
What was your RMA issue? I was working with Lesley on mine and they had it for 2 days until they mailed it back.
Vapodudule
Well-Known Member
@pakalolo i got the difference!
@Sublimator427 If you were worried about the heating element life, you procedure includes max temp heating and running red hot was a point that sub wanted user to avoid!! The reason was heating element life!
So yours 10/15 mins are not the 5 min falsely anounced by sub and with avoiding the max temp heating situation would be my 30 min...
Edit: yes putting the max temp mark WILL make your element RED hot
Edit2: please read all the material FC already written before claiming dispensing tips and trick (which one exactly?)
@Sublimator427 If you were worried about the heating element life, you procedure includes max temp heating and running red hot was a point that sub wanted user to avoid!! The reason was heating element life!
So yours 10/15 mins are not the 5 min falsely anounced by sub and with avoiding the max temp heating situation would be my 30 min...
Edit: yes putting the max temp mark WILL make your element RED hot
Edit2: please read all the material FC already written before claiming dispensing tips and trick (which one exactly?)
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Sublimator427
Well-Known Member
Key words being "at first". You're not supposed to leave it like that, it's just to jump start the element from cold. Around the 10 minute mark is when you back it off to your desired temp. During that time the element probably never actually gets to the max, all it does is get to YOUR temp much quicker with the extra juice. The user manual that came with my sub says 10 minutes for heat up time so my 10-15 is right in line with that. I also watch Enrico's videos on YouTube to pick up on his tricks, and I notice they usually have their units cranked up all the way for dabbing anyway.
Not sure why sharing these tips and tricks is somewhat unpopular around here. I've gotten private messages now telling me I'm being too condescending and implying people are dumb. Not my intent at all, just pointing out the simplest fixes that hadn't yet been mentioned even after 12 pages. MGG has the right idea a few posts up. Gotta be proactive if you want a better experience; just complaining about it on the Internet will get you nowhere fast.
Not sure why sharing these tips and tricks is somewhat unpopular around here. I've gotten private messages now telling me I'm being too condescending and implying people are dumb. Not my intent at all, just pointing out the simplest fixes that hadn't yet been mentioned even after 12 pages. MGG has the right idea a few posts up. Gotta be proactive if you want a better experience; just complaining about it on the Internet will get you nowhere fast.
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zippy
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My sub started scorching the herbs.So checked the voltage on the monkey box and it only read 36v when adjusting it.I advised planet vape of the issue as i purchased from there they said it was faulty and to send the head and controller back.They said it may be a short in the head or monkey box and to return.They still have not got it and i sent it tracked and signed for.My other vapes are not really doing it for me now.When this issue is sorted out i will let you know how it went.
MGG
Well-Known Member
well tbf I don't think anyone is exactly just sitting here 'complaining about it' the good thing about this community is it IS really pro-active and ingenious when it comes to finding solutions and mods to these vaporizers, if any community is going to find a solution to the timer I feel confident it will be this one and already some interesting progress has been made imo.
Frederick McGuire
Aggressively Loungey
@Sublimator427
I'm guessing you're referring to my pm?
My point wasn't that sharing the "tips" implied we were dumb, but you posted a "tip" which as far as I'm aware is common operating sub knowledge (the monkey box double tap) and the way you posted it implied we all just couldn't comprehend tapping the button twice.
It wasn't your content, it was my perceived tone of that content...
@MGG
I found the cloud seemed to be up to temp quicker than the sub - and the green indicator light was usually pretty accurate if you were heating it up from an auto-shutoff.
IME if you were a bit forgetful and missed a cloud timeout you could usually be back up and vaping within 5 mins.
I haven't used the mighty enough to really comment on it, but a timeout on battery powered devices makes sense to me anyway...
I'm guessing you're referring to my pm?
My point wasn't that sharing the "tips" implied we were dumb, but you posted a "tip" which as far as I'm aware is common operating sub knowledge (the monkey box double tap) and the way you posted it implied we all just couldn't comprehend tapping the button twice.
It wasn't your content, it was my perceived tone of that content...
@MGG
I found the cloud seemed to be up to temp quicker than the sub - and the green indicator light was usually pretty accurate if you were heating it up from an auto-shutoff.
IME if you were a bit forgetful and missed a cloud timeout you could usually be back up and vaping within 5 mins.
I haven't used the mighty enough to really comment on it, but a timeout on battery powered devices makes sense to me anyway...
@Sublimator427 
In one breath . . . .
. . . . and then the next . . . .
Do you know there is another thread here on FC which is for the 1st gen Subs but does actually cross over into XLR territory at times?
And anyway, I really don't know what you could be referring to because you have not particularly imparted any unique knowledge to this thread as far as I can see - apart from saying 'double tap the the controller to reset the timer' which people already do anyway (duh) and maybe upping the temp on the dial past your desired setting (but NOT to max power IMO) to encourage faster heat up from a cold start - which again, I already occasionally do and which has also already been mentioned at some point either in this thread or somewhere over in the the OG Sub thread.
I think you'll find people here actually really love to share 'tips and tricks' and there is also a lot of knowledge here already, held by some very discerning vaporists.
I think that it comes down to quality and pitch?
I am certainly pleased that you love your Sublimator so very very much, BUT, as hard as it may be for you to believe right now, I think it is likely that you will discover that the Sub is really not the 'be all and end all' of vaporization . . . in fact for many, it is only the beginning.
But whatevz, I still gotta whole lotta SubLove (and the rest)
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In one breath . . . .
. . . . and then the next . . . .
Hmmmm . . . .
Do you know there is another thread here on FC which is for the 1st gen Subs but does actually cross over into XLR territory at times?
And anyway, I really don't know what you could be referring to because you have not particularly imparted any unique knowledge to this thread as far as I can see - apart from saying 'double tap the the controller to reset the timer' which people already do anyway (duh) and maybe upping the temp on the dial past your desired setting (but NOT to max power IMO) to encourage faster heat up from a cold start - which again, I already occasionally do and which has also already been mentioned at some point either in this thread or somewhere over in the the OG Sub thread.
I think you'll find people here actually really love to share 'tips and tricks' and there is also a lot of knowledge here already, held by some very discerning vaporists.
I think that it comes down to quality and pitch?
I am certainly pleased that you love your Sublimator so very very much, BUT, as hard as it may be for you to believe right now, I think it is likely that you will discover that the Sub is really not the 'be all and end all' of vaporization . . . in fact for many, it is only the beginning.
But whatevz, I still gotta whole lotta SubLove (and the rest)
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