The Arizer Air
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CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
@Deano The only reason would be to have an extra very good vaporizer and if stealth is something that you need. The Air is easily brought along when away from home, so it's more portable. If the Solo does the job for you then you are set.
My unit has stopped and needed to cool off only twice, that was months ago and not lately while using the bubbler. Even then it just took 5 min then it was good to go again. I have been using my D020 bubbler a few nights a week with this vape here lately.
My unit has stopped and needed to cool off only twice, that was months ago and not lately while using the bubbler. Even then it just took 5 min then it was good to go again. I have been using my D020 bubbler a few nights a week with this vape here lately.
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OF
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It's no doubt a standard sheet metal punch press, routine fare in any production shop. It uses semi custom 'dies' (actually a punch and die) matched to the press looking like these:
http://www.airtronics.com/images/PunchPressTooling.jpg
The critical part is the punch is a tiny bit smaller than the die (dependent on material to be processed). A paper punch will rapidly fail for that reason, the punch eventually nicking the lip of the die ending the game. The punch and die have to be held in perfect alignment, calling for a very heavy, well made press. Due to the number of sizes, typically for smaller shops this means a hand operated press, usually of the 'turret type' (saving set up times):
http://www.americanmachinetools.com/images/hand_turret_punch.jpg
In this case the smaller lever up top us pushed backwards unlocking the two turrets (punches upper, dies lower) allowing them to be quickly changed without alignment issues. Single station presses can be lever or often air drives (foot pedal).
The most common maker of such good stuff here is probably Greenlee.
Small numbers for personal use can be cut with gasket punches (intended to make flat gaskets for auto engines and stuff:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001HBV9U6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Although cruder it doesn't have the alignment issues. Just put your screen stock on a back up plate (like say copper, maybe lead), put the punch on top and give it a big old smack with a handy hammer. The punch will eventually dull but they're easy to sharpen again as they're not critical in profile. I'd remove the guide pin, it's just going to get in the way.
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Deano
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If money wasn't an option and you had to choose between a crafty or air, which would you get? Still being conscious of what you're spending and wanting to make sure the extra is justified.
If I get an air, id probably want a nice less resistant stem to go with it and understand any of the high efficiency stems for the solo work. I've even seen some diy modded ones.
The draw resistance with the solo is my only complaint. Amazing taste, can produce big clouds, but it feels like you're sucking a bowling ball through a straw.
I've found that by turning or shifting the unit in hand while hitting does increase air flow, the long 10-12 second pulls are a bit much.
If I get an air, id probably want a nice less resistant stem to go with it and understand any of the high efficiency stems for the solo work. I've even seen some diy modded ones.
The draw resistance with the solo is my only complaint. Amazing taste, can produce big clouds, but it feels like you're sucking a bowling ball through a straw.
I've found that by turning or shifting the unit in hand while hitting does increase air flow, the long 10-12 second pulls are a bit much.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Do you have the older model Solo the Pre 2014 model that can't be used and charged at the same time? With a loose pack there shouldn't be much of a draw restriction with the newer models. I didn't like the tight draw with the older model, I needed the PVHES mouthpieces
You need to make sure you have the right stem with the Air or there will be a bit of a restricted airflow. I thought there was more of a draw restriction with the Air stock stems in the beginning. I understand the holes are larger now, is that right?
I thought the shortest stem was harsh unless on the lowest heat level. With the Vortex stem I don't have to be restricted with the lowest heat level. If I need stealth I use the second to the shortest stem. On occasion I have used the shortest stem, I just use the lowest heat.
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OF
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More than vapor path length goes into how harsh vapor is. However, everything else being equal, longer paths means more time to cool.
GonGs designed for Solo work with Air, Planet Vape is a good source. The inline bubbler is of the "F Bomb" or "PNWT" (Pinnacle Water tool) type, lost of them about. Again PV can set you up. You can also get some cheaper clones from DH Gate or Ebay.
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UnshavenFish
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Yes i have the one from the video (budget bubbler from vapefiend) and its 14mm
But with this one you need the no carb GonG as the bubbler would cover the hole so would be no use...check with whoever you order from to make sure
Also everyone has different tolerance to heat/harshness i can use my short stem with mp on red and not have any irritation while others find it uncomfortable, the good thing is though with as many stems available there will be one to suit every need
But with this one you need the no carb GonG as the bubbler would cover the hole so would be no use...check with whoever you order from to make sure
Also everyone has different tolerance to heat/harshness i can use my short stem with mp on red and not have any irritation while others find it uncomfortable, the good thing is though with as many stems available there will be one to suit every need
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CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
The F-Bomb takes either the 14 or 18mm GonG, Planetvape has both sizes. The Pinnacle Pro WT, which is similar to the F-Bomb, it's a tube style and it takes the 14mm GonG. You can find the knock offs on the cheap glass thread. The F-Bombs are expensive, go with a knock off. If it breaks it's not a huge deal.
The D020 Bubbler takes the 18mm GonG.
The D020 Bubbler takes the 18mm GonG.
UnshavenFish
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Ahh didn't realise f-bomb did both...learn something new here everyday 
And that was my thinking also the PNWT was double the price of the budget and the f-bomb even more, and the state i usually use it in cheaper is best lol
You can also get glass adapters (cost £4) so either way its not a big deal i use my 14 GonG with both 14 and 18 bubblers.
And that was my thinking also the PNWT was double the price of the budget and the f-bomb even more, and the state i usually use it in cheaper is best lol
You can also get glass adapters (cost £4) so either way its not a big deal i use my 14 GonG with both 14 and 18 bubblers.
Can I just jump In here? Ive seen you ask this question a couple times across a couple threads for a couple days.The Crafty is in a different class than the Air. What exactly are you expecting out of the Air? If youre expecting a Solo but on the diet physically and not internally, than that's what you get with the Air. I've never used a Crafty, but I imagine your question is like asking if a Flowermate is as good as a Firefly.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Buy 2 of each when you buy stems.So am i the only one who keeps breaking these stupid stems lol. I've broken 5 damn stems. Talk about bad fuckin luck.. im thinking of getting the 14mm PVHEGong. Should i get the regular or turbo? Also waiting for the stubby vortex to come in stock.
It saves on shipping.So get a regular and a turbo? LolBuy 2 of each when you buy stems.
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Try both! You're already used to the regular GonG right? The turbo offers a lot less resistance as the only thing holding the herb in place is the metal screen. Personally I took one of my straight Solo stems and applied a diamond-tipped dremel to it to make it a turbo stem. I love the open airflow of these!So am i the only one who keeps breaking these stupid stems lol. I've broken 5 damn stems. Talk about bad fuckin luck.
Do you only use the Air with water or dry as well? The Vortex stems are thicker glass and longer, @CarolKing really likes them. I wonder if they have any Vortex GonG stems...
I've only used the stems it comes with and a curved solo stem. I was going to use the 14mm gong as a regular mouthpiece as I read it works good with the air.
sickmanfraud
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I can only speak to the idea of a gong as a mouthpiece with regard to Solo, but I believe it is almost the same with the air. The gong is so short that you will be inhaling VERY HOT vapor.
i would also advise caution to protect your lips from the GONG. Check the heat with your hand BEFORE you put your mouth on it.
BTW PlanetVape still has regular vortex stems in stock.
Ahh didn't realise f-bomb did both...learn something new here everyday
And that was my thinking also the PNWT was double the price of the budget and the f-bomb even more, and the state i usually use it in cheaper is best lol
You can also get glass adapters (cost £4) so either way its not a big deal i use my 14 GonG with both 14 and 18 bubblers.
Moderators please combine these two posts and please tell me where I can find instructions to multi quote. Thanks and I apologize.
The f-bomb is EITHER 14 mm or 18 mm. The 18 mm version is $25 more than 14 mm.
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WoodVillain
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I think you just hit the +quote tab on all the messages you want to quote then go down to the message box and hit the insert quotes tab on the bottom left, then click to quote these messages tab and your all set.
There may be a different way but thats how i figured out to do it.
There may be a different way but thats how i figured out to do it.
sickmanfraud
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Thank you.