Ascent Vaporizer by DaVinci

Silvercloud538

Well-Known Member
After getting confirmation from DaVinci ,there will be no

anticipated '"changes"' to current model Ascent ,only additions to product line :cool:

~ on that news me decided a *'"2nd"' unit would be apropo as a standby for wait

time if 1st unit ( just bought ) crashes ~ all in all ,seems a good ,supplemental

investment ( can always resell 2nd unit ) ~ new unit ( carbon fibre ) will pair

nicely w/ stealth blk.

Psst* sale is on thru the 1st ,but office will be closed ,soo ,today's last day to cash in ~ Vape on ' :tup:
 
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KidFated.

Unknown Member
Once a vape cycle has started, how do you exit it and go to a random temp? Do you have to turn the oven off? The whole system off? I'm not using it right now but it crossed my mind
 
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MrNaturalAZ

Tree hugging dirt worshipper
Once a vape cycle has started, how do you exit it and go to a random temp? Do you have to turn the oven off? The whole system off? I'm not using it right now but it crossed my mind
Yep - just power it off and back on to return to manual mode.
 
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vapen00b

Many vapes & accessories. Always happy to help
I love my ascent, but the reason I like it is actually opposite of your desires. I wanted a portable with a big bowl to have a long 20 min session. However, I tried with smaller amounts and it works great too. I use the glass vials for small loads. Dump in some flowers, put the vial over the flowers (take off the black seal), and vape. Some ppl suggested using glass flowers to fill up the empty space.

Don't expect anything with concentrates. The glass vials don't do the job. Instead, make a flower and wax sandwich. I know this product received a lot of criticism, but this is one of my favorite vapes. Also, you can program the machine to alternate heat settings. But one thing I learned from this community is that everyone shares and give insight on maximizing the functionality of your ascent.

I bet if you go back 25 pages or so and read forward you'll find this covered at least twice. I know for sure at least once in the last 5, since I (along with others) contributed.

There is no "best way" that fits all owners, nor perhaps even most. You need to try different techniques to see what suits you best. Guidelines are the best you can hope for.

You should also pay heed to how it works. Very small loads on the bottom of the bowl are basically useless (I get it that lots of guys will come back '.....it works fine for me') since there's no heater there (it's in the walls). The maker has confirmed this. This is a conduction vape (despite what some might say, he still thinks it's conduction.....), meaning bud has to touch something hot, the walls are, the floor isn't.

The other (IMO) important insight is the glass lining means heat will transfer in slower than it's removed by the hit. Hitting it cools the load off fast, and in some measurements I made over 100 degrees F. That definitely ends production. This lead to the glass flowers idea, which IMO is well worth trying. Not only will it give you 'bigger hits' easier but will do so with less bud.

Like I said, pour a cup of your favorite beverage, prop up your feet and do some reading, it's all there many times, but you really need to educate yourself and experiment.......following 'canned' advice is not the way to get the answer you're asking for.

Regards and best wishes. IMO well worth the effort.

OF

Thanks a lot for your infos. I surely will read the last pages 20-25 pages...as I always did, but now the thread has (luckily) gotten sooo big. But I'm willing to learn! :)

Basically I question, if the Ascent is suitable for me and the purpose of not filling it too much... guess about 0.1 would be my load... maybe even less. (Don't wanna be blasphemic but would a Pinnacle Pro be "better" then?)

What I learned is to get glass flowers. Too bad in the EU I haven't seen an online store selling these... is there an alternative?

Do I have to grind to get better results or is it ok to just drop a lil bud in the bowl? (I'd prefer that.. am used to it with the vaponic pen. Talking about that amount of herb fitting in that thing)

Also I learned to get a better stem cause of the air leaking when pulling the glass them out... the less the better. But what about the electronic parts getting heat and air then..? Does it taste bad - and more importantly: its gonna be bad for your health..?
Would love to get an WonG from EDs - but guess I'm not gonna get it shipped since I'm from G-many. ;(
The 14mm GonG adapter would be also nice - to get an optional water adapter (but thats not important right now... something to try later on).


That's my thoughts for now...
Thanks to all of you helping and a happy new yeehaw!! :D
 
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Silvercloud538

Well-Known Member
QUESTION : Have noticed a "quirk" in anti-motion auto-off function ~ when unit

rests @ 45 degrees ( ie., leaning inside coffee mug ) ,it '"does not"' :hmm: shutoff ,but

as soon as unit is vertical/ horizontal normal ;) function occurs ?

Has anyone found same phenomenae ,or is this normal ?
 
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cornwalis

Member
Mine shuts off while I'm I'm in motion I thought so to as long in motion it does not shut off. I press the menu the + here and their inbetween draws seems to stop the shut off also set my vape cycles to one set temp and max the time on each you get a lil more time out of cycle think timer is 20. And all 3. Vape cycle = 30
 

Silvercloud538

Well-Known Member
Mine shuts off while I'm I'm in motion I thought so to as long in motion it does not shut off. I press the menu the + here and their inbetween draws seems to stop the shut off also set my vape cycles to one set temp and max the time on each you get a lil more time out of cycle think timer is 20. And all 3. Vape cycle = 30

Ya might wanna do a "reset" to clear/ reboot ~ press all three buttons

simultaneously @ 7 sec ~ then you will notice auto-clock reset @ 10 min /cycles

reset @ 375/ 3.00 min ~ this should get you good to go ,if not :nope: ,would check

w/office
 
Silvercloud538,

OF

Well-Known Member
I'm not at all sure we're interpreting "motion" right. At least not the same as the author. That is I'm not sure there's an accelerometer in there to sense motion. Extra expense and calibration issues I'd think. How do you separate say sitting on a moving car seat from a stoner watching a movie?

Rather I think 'change' makes more sense? That it 'it shuts of XX minutes since the last change'. It should be easy enough to sort out with a few tests, but my first one (setting a time to shake it every 5 minutes) didn't stop shutdown so I decided it didn't mean what I thought and stopped testing.

When I've got a few hours where I'm doing something else keeping me close perhaps I'll try it (setting times and temperatures to lower levels probably), if someone else doesn't do so first?

OF
 

Silvercloud538

Well-Known Member
I'm not at all sure we're interpreting "motion" right. At least not the same as the author. That is I'm not sure there's an accelerometer in there to sense motion. Extra expense and calibration issues I'd think. How do you separate say sitting on a moving car seat from a stoner watching a movie?

Rather I think 'change' makes more sense? That it 'it shuts of XX minutes since the last change'. It should be easy enough to sort out with a few tests, but my first one (setting a time to shake it every 5 minutes) didn't stop shutdown so I decided it didn't mean what I thought and stopped testing.

When I've got a few hours where I'm doing something else keeping me close perhaps I'll try it (setting times and temperatures to lower levels probably), if someone else doesn't do so first?

OF

Having limited engineering background ,me thinks designers put '"any"' position as motion unless horizontal/ vertical mode ~ there must be a thermocoupler or something that utilizes A.I. ( artificial intelligence ) ~

@ OF ,forgive my ignorance of any politically incorrect nomenclature
 
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OF

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Having limited engineering background ,me thinks designers put '"any"' position as motion unless horizontal/ vertical mode ~ there must be a thermocoupler or something that utilizes A.I. ( artificial intelligence ) ~

@ OF ,forgive my ignorance of any politically incorrect nomenclature

Could be. Such 'electronic levels' are broadly classed Clinometers. They tell you, for instance, how close your ship is getting to tipping over..... Many accelerometer sensors also provide this information as well. But I'd think they'd have the same separation issues?

This too should be easy to test for, and making the timeout short can make the testing go faster.

No need to worry about terms, we're communicating just fine. In fact I'm probably more in danger of losing readers than you......

OF
 

Silvercloud538

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Could be. Such 'electronic levels' are broadly classed Clinometers. They tell you, for instance, how close your ship is getting to tipping over..... Many accelerometer sensors also provide this information as well. But I'd think they'd have the same separation issues?

This too should be easy to test for, and making the timeout short can make the testing go faster.

No need to worry about terms, we're communicating just fine. In fact I'm probably more in danger of losing readers than you......

OF

Your interpretation sounds more than reasonable ~ hav been doing test trials @

30 sec ( it seems whatever they're using it's verry consistant ,which satisfies

most quality control/ effective features )


Hum if I go that high on mine it will roast it almost black with a bitter taste N I usually start 355 for few hits those are the tasty ones the climb to 375 380 ish. Not often I got beyond 375 All depends on moisture vs oil content

After considerable comparisons ,hav found most effective to go '"direct"' to max

temp w/ in range ( ie., 385-400 ) ; then after proper warmup for a min or so ,set

cycle to next '"lower"' set temp ,and finally to min pre-set @ max mins which by

now will be lung effective while still savoring taste @ lower temps ~ VAPE on :-)
 
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cornwalis

Member
2015 why are their such junk sensor even in the machine I'd like to see the ascent stay and have it evolve with add convection longer internal sleeve that holds the lower stem so it insets into the top stem by by air leek just tweek it and take all the criticism you can complaints make for better products and better solutions oh and pole love removable batts not cause they can pop them out and replace when they die because wee all know bateries kik the can with out warning and user serviceable batt means I don't have to ship it to you in usa Ya I've tried going to high temps the popping it down I just find their sum thing missing in its use medication wise it's take a lot to use n has learning curve to use with friends with out of them all their only 1 that can manage getting a good haul I've got another portable I just bought for that reason and the easy of use driving or ridding bike
 
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Silvercloud538

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2015 why are their such junk sensor even in the machine I'd like to see the ascent stay and have it evolve with add convection longer internal sleeve that holds the lower stem so it insets into the top stem by by air leek just tweek it and take all the criticism you can complaints make for better products and better solutions

Prolly under the presumption that "convection" radiation will require more

energy toengage than "conduction" ,thus putting pressure on charge cycle

,IMO ~ But ,yes the squeaky wheel usually gets the most attention ~
 
Silvercloud538,

cornwalis

Member
Yes it would but they both have their draw backs but also take a lot of juice too to get ceramic glass to temp but the convection would not be full on its to remove the shock of fresh cold air decressing the temp of said ceramic it might make up in loosing all that thermal energy in the bowl t consumes power but if that power loss was redirected to a pree warmer is it realy using more power or the same amount would diminish the need for stiring with every time you open bowl stir its uses more power to rever the heat their more factor that just its another burner use more power but it's the waisted energy you can redirect and make it useful in another place eliminate said loss and maybe eliminate sum stiring and wear on that bown seal as the charge cycle you're worried about that because you cannot pull the bateries out would of been cool if the lower stem actualy lowered onto you're load pushing it to the bottom locking it closed unable to open in down poss
 
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Vaporcussion

Well-Known Member
Hey Carolking, thank you for your great posts all through this thread! Curious if you think Ed's blackwood stems have a better draw then then the glass stems? I heard they have one big hole with a screen as opposed to the 3 small holes in the glass, thanks
 
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cornwalis

Member
I don't like using um makes a dam mess net resin on um carry a container with um and that's gets coated with crumbs and resin my buddy's unit has a few nicks on the lowers seal says flowers get wedged in their their pointy small and feels special when you drop um on the floor step on um I put oils n shatter in my the can drop in and crank it just with no lid they always come poppin off on me lids are useless Imo if I do continue to use it will be for reclaim n oils N maybe off shelf cheep herbs maybe if they where stiffer or stiffer with just tool hold so and the tool could be shaped so it can push the jar lid on and pull it out oh ya clean oil too no fine particle or find get a burn taste And don't work too good the pollen I get out of my grinder I heat n press it and it's usaly has plant mater so I drop it right in the bowl and don't seem to melt or make mess but got to know what yer doing I've dabed a tinny bit of shat or oil on the walls just enought to stick and not drip and keep it slight tilt but again tricky but get good results the next unit will have shortfalls erased I'd realy like to try a solo never have befor might be the next thing
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I took advantage on the sale prices at Davinci on glassware. I was able to get 20% off plus another 10 off for a total of 30 percent off my total order plus free shipping. A very good discount.

The sale is still on through Jan 1st. hurry before it's over. Glass breaks easy.:o
 

cornwalis

Member
It sure does the lower one I'm always swapping for a clean one but I think the inner stem has changed cause one my new ones is bigger diameter and thicker glass seems to seeks good but I don't pull it out that far
 
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