Which whip vape should I buy based on my needs?

So I've decided to buy a whip vape. I want to see what everyone is talking about with these super large badass thick hits.

The thing is with the Volcano is you simply fill your lungs in one motion and that's it. Passing time.

I can make myself cough with it if I jack up the temperature near 400F and get a wicked milky bag but not like a bong you know?


Here's what I want:

- Whip vape, don't care about bag capabilities -- you know why
- Don't care about stealth or portability. Electric powered please.
- Thickest, strongest hits possible without burning or coming close to combustion
- Don't care about bells and whistles, I just want to get as high as possible
- $300?


Thanks guys. I'll pick this up within two weeks and do a full unbias and fair comparison. I can even do a couple of videos because my netbook has a shitty built in camera.

I would consider the SSV, Herborizer and the vrip thats coming out. Though technically the herborizer and vrip are wand vapes but I think but that matches your wanting to get high as possible.

I have the Da Buddha Vaporizer and I love it and I have yet to see someone blow a cloud that I cannot on any video I have seen but I believe the SSV is capable of a bit better but its said to be by a little.

Silver Surfer, SSV http://www.silversurfervap.com/
Da Buddha http://www.dabuddhavaporizer.com/home.html
Herborizer http://www.herborizer.com/
Vrip http://www.vriptech.com/
(Vrip has the special right now for the pre-release)

make a homemade SSV..shit hits tough!

nice fat clouds...half the price of a SSV

im actually selling the one i made...interested? its a SSV heater cover retro fitted to a hakko with a rehostat..NEVER burns...always a nice n even vapor


i have hit the da-buddha, pd, E, my homemade SSV , and the 'cano

SSV gets my vote, I'll take a step back from my usual Extreme preaching.

The SSV produces the thickest vapor you're gonna get out of a whip vape, it can take some tinkering to avoid combustion especially depending on how dry your bud is, but once you get it going, you won't regret it.

i never come clse to combustion...just an even heat in my bowl

(homemade shit FTW!)


seriously tho...if u dont buy mine...make one for gods sake! dont wast nugget money on the SSV..... just my tho

Ven said:

SSV gets my vote, I'll take a step back from my usual Extreme preaching.

The SSV produces the thickest vapor you're gonna get out of a whip vape, it can take some tinkering to avoid combustion especially depending on how dry your bud is, but once you get it going, you won't regret it.

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Sorry Ven, but how did you come to this conclusion? I thought you only owned the Extreme.

The SSV does produce some very thick hits, but accidental combustion has never been an issue for me.

VS, glad you're venturing out of bag country. If you're looking strictly for a whip vape, either of 7th floor's products are a safe bet. The SSV's smaller heater cover opening provides a more focused hot air stream which is thought to produce a slightly thicker vapor, which was one of your criteria. Also just about $300. That said, don't discount the other big name whip vapes, and since you mentioned the bong aspect, the VHW/Herborizer might be a consideration, especially if you have some glass to use with it.

Lots of info on all of 'em here.

Sadly, no. I sold my bong after I got my Volcano but it was just a cheap $50 bong that the headshop probably made out of glass I used to find at Burlington Coat Factory.

Nothing like a ROOR or PHX or anything nice or spendy.


Thing is, I guess I'm a complete noob to anything other than the Volcano. Education = power.

What's the difference between a whip and a wand?

VS, the only whip I've ever used is the Extreme. But as you probably know, the SSV has a rep for getting the biggest hits. Based on my hanging around here for a year now, I would have to recommend the SSV, and it would be my next vape purchase if I were going to get one.

What's the difference between a whip and a wand?

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A lack of industry standards. Some vape makers refer to the glass bowl piece as a wand. Whip usually includes the tubing. 7th Floor uses wand for the bowl and calls it a whip when the tubing is included. Vaporwarez calls the glass and tubing a handkit or handpiece kit (yeah-both names on the same page). Whatever they call it, you get the glass and tubing with the vape. An extra wand can come in handy (and 7th Floor wands fit other vapes and are priced very well), and extra tubing and screens will be needed down the road.

VS - I really think I'll be adding a PD or SSV soon myself.

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I don't have enough time to explain ALL of my reasoning, but in a nut-shell.

1) Definitely PD if you want efficiency/durability/always-on-access/total session-size control/etc.

2) As far as a whip vape (even though you already own a 'cano) I would suggest the Extreme ($279 as long as Arizer will still price match). I like that you can use the fan with the whip (to assist a really long whip/drag in a water filter/feed you when too lazy to draw/etc. I also like the set up (the air flows up through the herbs allowing you to stir them with your breath, etc.). The set-up also provides IMO the best water-free small particle filtration system (everything that makes it past the elbow seems to be translucent/full-melt. Plus you can open the E (at your own risk) to see/clean/repair anything on the inside (if you need/wish to--I hate sending stuff in for repair and secret technology roll )

They also offer the V-tower without a fan for less (IMO once you do a bag side-by-side your 'cano may serve an extra purpose for you...income brow ).

3) I am not sure what you make of the VHW (your style/woud you need to buy a bong too/etc.) but it seems that it would definitely compliment a 'cano (being that it is totally different--IMO)

VS - I like how the PD can be used for just smell good oils and not just exclusively as an herb vaporizer.

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FYI - Many vapes act as scented oil diffusers (including the Surfer and the Extreme)

Well, if you really wanna shell out 300 bones, go with the SSV, but if you want to $ave but not lose any performance, I'd recommend checking out the VaporWarez. You can get one here for 160 plus a bunch of goodies. That is where I ordered from, about a year ago....


Let us know what you pick man... I'm excited for you.

Spiral said:

but if you want to $ave but not lose any performance, I'd recommend checking out the VaporWarez.

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"performance" could be subjective, but to imply that they hit the same might be a stretch, no? Not knocking the VW, I recommended the OP to check out the other whip vapes... just sayin'.

Of course I'm tempted to recommend a bunch of choices (including the beloved PD, which I think the OP mentioned looking at in his other thread), but really, from the criteria laid out in this OP, I have to say go SSV.

VS, If it's huge, thick, effortless hits you want, you won't be disappointed. Considering you appreciate the higher end aesthetics of the Volcano, the Surfer is also probably a match there. You can pick one up at vapenow with FC discount for $224.96. Maybe you can get the "Paul" discount direct from 7th floor, but even after calling ahead and confirming it, they didn't apply it to my last order. Only $40, but still.

That'd be cool if you got an Extreme like Progress mentioned so you could compare bag to bag... but for direct draw, we've heard that generally it's not quite as satisfying as something like the Surfer. That's the impression I get from talking with people who've owned both at least.

Sprial said:

Let us know what you pick man... I'm excited for you.

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Haha me too!

personally i like the Extreme equally with the SSV. i can get huge coulds that send me into coughing fits from both. some things to consider though are that:

the Extreme uses somewheree around .7 grams for a bowl, but you get quite a few hits off it.
i like Ven have had a little trouble with combustion and my SSV. sometimes it seems like i need to set it to a whole new temp than last time. (with the same kind of bud)
the Extreme is never going to burn your herb so that always nice.


anyway i think with either one you'll love it. i dont regret getting my extreme or my ssv. (i love all my children equally )

the Extreme uses somewheree around .7 grams for a bowl

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That amount works well I'm sure, but it's not a minimum requirement.

i like Ven have had a little trouble with combustion and my SSV.

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Although it's certainly capable, temp wise, of getting that hot, it's a very uncommon complaint once you find the vaping range. You must be setting it pretty high, where you have to depend on a heavy draw to keep the temp down. After owning mine for a year, I never even overcook, let alone combust. If you have the temp set at the point where a slow, easy draw gives you good vapor, there should be no problem unless there's something wrong with your temp control.

Aside from temp issues, and having used both systems, I'm with the majority in that the SSV is a more satisfactory hitter vs. the Extreme. Plus if someone already has a Volcano, the Extreme's dual mode delivery isn't as much of a plus.

VK - i like Ven have had a little trouble with combustion and my SSV. sometimes it seems like i need to set it to a whole new temp than last time. (with the same kind of bud)

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M - Although it's certainly capable, temp wise, of getting that hot, it's a very uncommon complaint once you find the vaping range

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I've used one often for years (as well as a DBV) and I could not imagine either igniting/getting a cherry (tasting popcorn/burnt, yes, but you should be able to prevent that by using an appropriate temperature setting IME. Maybe you could if you turned the Surfer all the way up, packed it really full to create tight air pathways, and drew really hard repeatedly (I know someone who actually did this the first time they used their de-verdamper because they overfilled and went overboard with the kif). If the temp seems to be fluctuating, you may want to try to get some concrete/empirical proof so you can get it repaired/replaced (likely free of charge I would guess... )

V -That'd be cool if you got an Extreme like Progress mentioned so you could compare bag to bag... but for direct draw, we've heard that generally it's not quite as satisfying as something like the Surfer. That's the impression I get from talking with people who've owned both at least.

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I am not sure about this (IME). I agree that the SS has a slightly looser pull (less drag), but drag can be affected by changing tubing length/etc. Also, IME the SS gets to full heat quicker, however, if you allow all of the glass in the E (HE cover, Cyclone, male joint of elbow) to get to temp the draws can be equally thick (if not more thick, IME, due to bowl positioning/design)

My thoughts are not (by far) gospel, but I have had extended relationships with all of the units discussed above (SS/E/DBV/PD/VD/Cano--have only tried VW) and try to be as observant and informed as I can.

I look foreword to hearing thoughts of many of the fuckers I have developed a great respect for here at FC .

Toke it Ezee!

I think I'm going to get an SSV! That price isn't too bad but where should I order it from? I ordered my cano from S&B directly so I like to deal with the manufacuter

Take the same route with SSV. Throw a pretty penny on getting that baby customized!!!

VS - I think I'm going to get an SSV! That price isn't too bad but where should I order it from? I ordered my cano from S&B directly so I like to deal with the manufacuter.

SA - Take the same route with SSV. Throw a pretty penny on getting that baby customized!!!

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I, too, like to buy direct from the manufacturer if possible (various reasons).

I also agree with SpiralA. If you're interested in aesthetics, have 7th Floor pimp/personalize you Surfer (7th floor can be somewhat slow with custom orders IM(and others')E, but rarely fail to exceed expectations IM(ao)E.

With the SSV especially, ordering straight from the maker is best. You get to specify housing, base, and glass colors, and the free shipping gives you a perfect opportunity to get extra tubing, screens, a spare wand, and any other accessories you want.

Since you're going the SSV route ( a good choice ), I'd recommend you also pick up the GonG heater cover and wand while you are at it. I prefer it when vaping with friends since it's easier to pass around and less fiddling then with the standard. I'd keep the standard wand though , it has it uses as well and I prefer using it when by myself.

One thing to note since drag affects the temperature , i've had people combust weed in my SSV . I tend to draw fast therefore set my temperature higher, if my friend then proceeds to puff on it too slowly it can catch fire and that usually means new tubing (to get rid of the taste) and a trip to Doctor Iso for the wand. Only happened once or twice but it's something to keep in mind.

If you go with hands free I recommend that you put a mouse pad in front of the vape so if you accidentally pull it out the wand is protected. I find this is prudent when learning it and when in a group.

I believe Skunkypete issue with burning is due to him having the temperature high with fast draws. Some people prefer high heat with faster draws but typically a medium heat with slower draws are favored over other settings but finding out what works best for you is the right answer and that discovering what works best for you is priceless.

vtac said:

Sorry Ven, but how did you come to this conclusion? I thought you only owned the Extreme.

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Oh, guess I should have made it more apparent I do infact NOT own an SSV. I'm experienced with it in the sense that my friend allows me use of his at his place about once or twice a week.

Volcano South said:

I think I'm going to get an SSV! That price isn't too bad but where should I order it from? I ordered my cano from S&B directly so I like to deal with the manufacuter

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Glad to hear it, you won't be disappointed VS .

if you want all that custom stuff...get the SSV


if u just wants the dome CRUSHERS the whip gives you...make your SSV with a hakko and some simple SSV parts

save money?

I got my new Extreme Saturday and would like to thank the vapor afficianados who avidly post on the many threads. I 've been "smoking" all day everday for 15yrs. I had never vaped before and actually never saw or heard about vaping untill I happened to watch "Super High Me" a week ago because it was on xbox360 netflix free streaming. The volcano was used in the movie so intstantly i googled it found out it was a vaporizer, googled vaporzers reaserched health benefits and then happend to find this site. I wasn't sure wich I would like better bags or whips so the extreme has both and I bought it. I'm still not sure which I prefer but, VAPORIZING IS UNBELIEVABLE!!! The taste, the high, the lack of pain in my lungs, the efficency, everything. It's like I've been taken to the future. I'll never smoke again. My advice on what to buy is simple. Just buy a vape and your world will change.

If you want a bag vape : View manufacture's websites Read forums buy the one you like.
If you want a whip vape : View manufacture's websites Read forums buy the one you like.
Not sure? : Buy an extreme it's has both.

That being said I think for me two vapes are whats right the extreme is great for multi-use features and ease of use (my girlfriend is not afraid to use it) and I am ordering the Purple days for continual use through out the day b/c of its size and efficency both in kw and herb use.