Silver420Surfer
Downward spiral
As soon as I track down my dang wallet, the Core shall be mine!!
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Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.
- Thread starter THC SCIENTIFIC
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I'm sorry to hear about the recent events that have cause so many people grief and heartache. All I can say ATOMSk is that I can get any Hercules working. We understand the Hercules is not for everyone. I can assure you that I can get the Hercules working 100% as everyone who has had issues with their unit and the most likely cause was user error. The only hand full was with the ceramic rods and that was small number out of the thousands of Hercules out there atm.
What would be the best is I will buy your unit back Persei and Hercules at original Receipt price if i cant get it to work. This offer only comes if you can drive out and for me to have a sit down with you and get it working. If you are willing to take a drive up then im willing to place my bet on us getting the Hercules working 100%.
I can get it working here but i would like to see you get a better unit then someone anger driven purchase that you will regret most likely in a few weeks.
As for the kiss carts they are fool proof, yup. Never said break proof. Every unit of this type of design is going to burn out sooner or later. The next version of the Kiss carts we have will have the Ti Gr 2 wires that will outlast anything out there except for maybe one not sure but never really did a head to head with it. I guess we have to wait and see once we introduce it to the world on what the issues with them are, but for now, we have ran 15 - 20 min dry and they dont break.
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tharealmclovin
Well-Known Member
I may have had a pair of flukes, but Im thinking those 5ohms get too hot too quick. My buddy has had his 2.4's for over a week now with no issues.
The 5.0 ohms get to 10 watts. Might have to throttle back on them. Its not the issue of it getting hot, its the issue of it running dry because the issue with wire heaters plus now the reduction of wicking of the ceramic.
Simply put the 5.0 ohms are on their last legs until Ti Gr2 is introduced.
Atomsk
Floating In My Tin Can
Not that it should be a challenge, or even a bet. I'm sure we'll get it working if we're at your shop with all the resources needed. I'd most like to know why it stopped working and what can be attributed to user error on my part and what can be attributed to device error. I understand it's been said that the Persei and especially the Hercules aren't for everyone, but I'm really hoping you guys don't mean that a base understanding of electrical engineering is what sets the bar here. If you mean the devices calls for someone who must be meticulous, patient, and reasonable, I await the day my device works as hard as I do.
As to my comments on the KISS, I meant McLovin's dead 5 ohm carts. I know they weren't built with longevity in mind, I don't expect you to be making Excalibur here, G. But you might set that down for the naming contest (X Caliber).
Seriously though, it's not like I'm anti-Persei. There's a reason I put my faith in you guys instead of the other options when I first stepped in to the Oil-Ring. I really want your products to work, and I especially want them to work for me. Lately, it's been the other way around.
As to the messages: No, I didn't get a new electric oil device. Just bought an oil rig. Well, two. The first one broke at the joint (where the nail sits). Apparently, you're supposed to heat the Nail while actively manipulating the laws of Thermodynamics such that heat from the nail can't transfer to the shoddily blown joint.
Classic Atomsk user experience.
tharealmclovin
Well-Known Member
That theory is a good one except both of these burnt out with a full load on them. It overheated as it was melting in. I am sure my 2.4's will work much better
Trust me as a user i would demand more then what you are demanding.
And as a manufacturer im wiling to put my reputation on the line.
Its not the understanding of anything engineering to run the herc i have stumped a few engineers with the Hercules design so thats not it. All it is a clear view. All one has to do is sit down relax and take it easy. Once you get into the grove and understand what each part does and how it is assembled then you will realize whats going on and the light clicks and the rest is history.
All i ask is bring 2 grams of your oil. I will even pay for this if we cant get it to work. So you dont lose anything.
and on top of that.
Extra $20 bucks for gas.
Im that confident that it gets to work when your here.
Now on to oil rigs i really think its a step back. Yes they are good and always faithful but they also have flaws as you just noticed, then there is the hazard of torches and then the portability issue.
As for the 5.0 ohms its the flaw of this design, less wicking more power and not reloading it will cause this.
So we agree.
If i cant get it to work, gas cash, oil cash ($50 per gram max), and persei and hercules buy back.
And as a manufacturer im wiling to put my reputation on the line.
Its not the understanding of anything engineering to run the herc i have stumped a few engineers with the Hercules design so thats not it. All it is a clear view. All one has to do is sit down relax and take it easy. Once you get into the grove and understand what each part does and how it is assembled then you will realize whats going on and the light clicks and the rest is history.
All i ask is bring 2 grams of your oil. I will even pay for this if we cant get it to work. So you dont lose anything.
and on top of that.
Extra $20 bucks for gas.
Im that confident that it gets to work when your here.
Now on to oil rigs i really think its a step back. Yes they are good and always faithful but they also have flaws as you just noticed, then there is the hazard of torches and then the portability issue.
As for the 5.0 ohms its the flaw of this design, less wicking more power and not reloading it will cause this.
So we agree.
If i cant get it to work, gas cash, oil cash ($50 per gram max), and persei and hercules buy back.
Not that it should be a challenge, or even a bet. I'm sure we'll get it working if we're at your shop with all the resources needed. I'd most like to know why it stopped working and what can be attributed to user error on my part and what can be attributed to device error. I understand it's been said that the Persei and especially the Hercules aren't for everyone, but I'm really hoping you guys don't mean that a base understanding of electrical engineering is what sets the bar here. If you mean the devices calls for someone who must be meticulous, patient, and reasonable, I await the day my device works as hard as I do.
As to my comments on the KISS, I meant McLovin's dead 5 ohm carts. I know they weren't built with longevity in mind, I don't expect you to be making Excalibur here, G. But you might set that down for the naming contest (X Caliber).
Seriously though, it's not like I'm anti-Persei. There's a reason I put my faith in you guys instead of the other options when I first stepped in to the Oil-Ring. I really want your products to work, and I especially want them to work for me. Lately, it's been the other way around.
As to the messages: No, I didn't get a new electric oil device. Just bought an oil rig. Well, two. The first one broke at the joint (where the nail sits). Apparently, you're supposed to heat the Nail while actively manipulating the laws of Thermodynamics such that heat from the nail can't transfer to the shoddily blown joint.
Classic Atomsk user experience.
I decided to go with a Persei way back when because @THC SCIENTIFIC is so serious about getting everyone working like this.
Still never seen a vape company that goes anywhere near these lengths or is willing to put their reputation on the line every time...
Gonna record another video of SR71 thru the bong. It's the way to be y'all.
Still never seen a vape company that goes anywhere near these lengths or is willing to put their reputation on the line every time...
Gonna record another video of SR71 thru the bong. It's the way to be y'all.
Atomsk
Floating In My Tin Can
I'm already down. Only thing is, I know for Hercules units work. My argument is that mine doesn't. Now, are you saying that if we can't make it work, I'm sent home with my money back but no unit? Or that I will get a new unit back?
Either way, we'll set a date for sometime in December.
Yes, NPH as Barney Stinson in How I Met Your Mother, the originator of the phrase, "Challenge Accepted!"
keifmaker
Pax Ploom - Zmax mini- Thermo W
what attachment would you use honey bud in with the persei?I'm looking to buy one very soon but want to become very familiar with it first and what I can do with itFinally a legit use for honey bud!!
Bet it'd work great
keifmaker
Pax Ploom - Zmax mini- Thermo W
good question I'd like to kno the answer also
Caligula
Maximus
Hercules SR71.
honey buds are to be used with black rod and no coils, with the white rod your gonna have to feather the button as it will combust.
keifmaker
Pax Ploom - Zmax mini- Thermo W
where are these available and what are they called? Thanks in advanced
those are the KISS carts you're welcome in advance!
keifmaker
Pax Ploom - Zmax mini- Thermo W
disposable but can I get a few uses out of them?
the 2.0 ohms yes, the 5.0 ohms are a little more sensitive.
Atomsk
Floating In My Tin Can
Two parts, actually, mentioned at length in a number of separate posts.
1) The bottom slotted contact sleeve. After trying the Black Rod the first time it stretched out the four prongs. In refitting it for the White Rod, a side snapped off.
2) The top slotted housing sleeves in the top chamber. After trying the Black Rod the second time, I found it would not budge from this piece. The rod snapped at both ends and the only way to get it out was to peel it out.
@THC SCIENTIFIC That's what I thought it was, thanks for the clarification. We'll set a date in mid-December, will you be in town?
Yes i will be.