Discontinued ThermoVape Evolution

vorrange

vorrange

Vapor.wise
VaporBoxed said:
6v=Fatter hits
3.7= more hits that are less dense
I got the 6v and I like the faster heat up time. I think saw someone saw they had to hold the 3.7 volt button for upwards of 20 seconds for it to reach its brightest glow.
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I am sorry, maybe this has been discussed already but.. when you say the Evo6V has fatter hits, you are trully saying that it is easier to pull fatter hits because of the faster heat up time and the higher temperature it can reach right? What is the experience of you guys?

If true, do you find the Evo6V tastier than the Evo3.7V?
I suppose, and comparing with the performance in other devices, that this won't happen but instead the Evo3.7V will maintain the taste for longer than the Evo6V. Thoughts?
 
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jambandphan03

jambandphan03

in flavor country
I found the flavor is slightly better on the 3.7v, due to slower heat time, and softer draw. I can hit the 6v pretty hard, and get pretty good clouds. Is everyone using the O ring with the cap? Just want to eliminate that as a possible difference. When I first got the Evo and didn't have the O ring, it seemed to me that too much air was slipping in under the cap when it heated and got loose. Once I put the O ring in play, it sealed up the bottom of the cap so the air was only pulling in through the bowel, not from under the cap.

**it is possible to get the good flavor longer with the 6v if you don't let it get blazing hot right away, and purposely slow down the heat process.

I am also wondering how people are keeping track of time as they heat, are you counting in your head, watching a clock or timer? I found at first (a little embarrassing) I was having a trouble staying fully focused as I was counting, and I would stretch the counts longer, or shorter, or just stop paying attention and loose track..yeah I know...:mental: I started opening up my clock program and watching the second hand until I got used to the rhythm of counting it out.
 
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vorrange

vorrange

Vapor.wise
jambandphan03 said:
I found the flavor is slightly better on the 3.7v, due to slower heat time, and softer draw.

**it is possible to get the good flavor longer with the 6v if you don't let it get blazing hot right away, and purposely slow down the heat process.

So, in theory, is it possible with added training to maintain the flavour in both the 3.7V and the 6V the same number of hits, with the bonus of having shorter heat up times in the 6V, and with that, a more efficient device, energy wise?

I am also wondering how people are keeping track of time as they heat, are you counting in your head, watching a clock or timer?

Considering the VG analogy, i don't count in my VG, i just wait until the vapour feels hotter and then pull faster. Additionaly, while i heat it, i maintain a slow steady pull to accomplish two things: use my tongue as a thermometer to know when to pull faster and allow for it to heat faster and extract better.
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VaporBoxed

VaporBoxed

Baked
jambandphan03 said:
I am also wondering how people are keeping track of time as they heat, are you counting in your head, watching a clock or timer? I found at first (a little embarrassing) I was having a trouble staying fully focused as I was counting, and I would stretch the counts longer, or shorter, or just stop paying attention and loose track..yeah I know...:mental: I started opening up my clock program and watching the second hand until I got used to the rhythm of counting it out.
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I found out that i can see the glow through the small air intake holes near the screw. I wait until it reaches its full glow which is about 6-8 seconds.
 
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jambandphan03

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VaporBoxed said:
I found out that i can see the glow through the small air intake holes near the screw. I wait until it reaches its full glow which is about 6-8 seconds.
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Do you have the new insulated interface yet? I can't really see the threads anymore, the way the interface meets up with the cap, there is a tiny air slit there, but it's hard to see anything.
 
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OF

OF

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VaporBoxed said:
I found out that i can see the glow through the small air intake holes near the screw. I wait until it reaches its full glow which is about 6-8 seconds.
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I believe that to work as designed you now need to go ten or more seconds longer. The core itself, not just the surface of the heater element, has to get to working temperature. When all the surfaces are emitting IR back and forth to each other (called 'the kiln effect' after the pottery oven) air drawn through is heated uniformly without actually touching hot metal. 20 seconds is a good ballpark time for this.

Then it's time to start the draw to heat the bowl. Draw too early and you don't build the reserve heat you'll need for the actual hit. At that time you'll need energy to vape off the oil faster than the battery is delivering it, it has to be stored before in the core. This is, I think, the first common mistake, not letting it get fully hot.

Then begin the second stage, the heating draw. Maybe another ten seconds? Pull until you've transferred enough heat to get the bowl to start to vape a bit. Then blow all the air in your lungs (and the tiny bit of THC) to end stage 2 before starting your real hit. I think this is the second common mistake, accepting the lame production as a hit, blow it out to clear your lungs for the main event (taking maybe another five seconds with the power still on, replacing some of the heat you've just used).

Then, step 3, go for it. Everything is in place, the heat is right, you're ready to go. Honk on it if you want, sip if that's the goal, fill your bong, whatever. You're in control.

Good luck, guys. Keep at it, IMO it's first rate when you sort it out.

OF
 
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I agree with OF, my first week was a lot of hitting it too soon, and missing it, getting the unit too hot but not getting much vapor. You have explained it well. :tup: I am getting steady results now, so keep at it!
 
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Polmol

Polmol

Member
OF which one do you have, the 6V or the 3.7V?

I'm torn between the two. Seems like one gives you fatter hits (6V) while the other's hits are more flavourful.

AAAHH!
 
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OF

OF

Well-Known Member
jambandphan03 said:
I agree with OF, my first week was a lot of hitting it too soon, and missing it, getting the unit too hot but not getting much vapor. You have explained it well. :tup: I am getting steady results now, so keep at it!
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Thanks very much for the feedback, Jam. It's like indirect fire artillary you know, without the forward observers reporting back you can't be sure you're on target....

OF
 
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OF

OF

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Polmol said:
OF which one do you have, the 6V or the 3.7V?

I'm torn between the two. Seems like one gives you fatter hits (6V) while the other's hits are more flavourful.

AAAHH!
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Do I have the Standard (6 Volt) or LV (3.7) version? Yes. I have both.

My take is the Standard heats faster and is a little more forgiving in technique. In exchange it has lower battery life (not IMO that significantly so). As far as I'm concerned there's not enough difference in taste to hang your hat on. There's way more variation hit to hit or load to load than machines in real life A/B testing (one vape in each hand, alternating hits).

Likewise I think LV can give just as 'fat' a hit, it's just a little more demanding on technique to get it. In the end it's all heat and exactly the same parts in use.

The real game changer taste wise is being able to clean the unit taste free again in an hour or so on demand. Either unit has that over any other vape I can think of off hand.

My advice is if you already have some Standard Voltage gear or are in a big hurry all the time, go with Standard otherwise LV gives you several more hits. Both units are scaled to reach the same temperatures, just one of them gets there quicker.

OF
 
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VaporBoxed

VaporBoxed

Baked
I shouldve cleared that up. Im getting lung busting hits of good vapor. I do one 10-12 second heat up then it gets hot. I take a puff to make sure the vapor is flowing. Then i reheat for 6-8 seconds and look through the little holes. I make sure i have a full glow before i hit it again. Every hit after that takes like 6 seconds to heat up.

Thanks though JamBand and OF
 
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VaporBoxed said:
I shouldve cleared that up. Im getting lung busting hits of good vapor. I do one 10-12 second heat up then it gets hot. I take a puff to make sure the vapor is flowing. Then i reheat for 6-8 seconds and look through the little holes. I make sure i have a full glow before i hit it again. Every hit after that takes like 6 seconds to heat up.

Thanks though JamBand and OF
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Ah, so! Great, sounds like we're all on the same page after all.....one of us took a little longer than the rest to figure that out, but he means well.....

Thanks. You really should get back to research, you know. I don't want you to feel you have to just because it's your duty and all, but there are guys......

Polmol said:
cool OF, thanks for the imput man
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You're welcome, glad I could help. Your homework is to practice, practice, practice.

The test is coming up, you know......

OF
 
Tuck

Tuck

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Is it better to cache a bowl once you start? Or can I take a puff or two here and there? I'm caching bowls right now and I can see why ya'll are complaining about your thumbs. I'm figuring everything is getting so hot, if I don't hit it now, it will be spent later.
 
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OF

OF

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Tuck said:
Is it better to cache a bowl once you start? Or can I take a puff or two here and there? I'm caching bowls right now and I can see why ya'll are complaining about your thumbs. I'm figuring everything is getting so hot, if I don't hit it now, it will be spent later.
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No, it's a convection vape with fairly poor insulation. Stop the airflow through it and it's under vaping temperature in half a minute I'd guess, pull the heat shield off and it's probably more like ten seconds? Leave it and come back later if you want. Much like you might do with a joint back in the dark days of combustion.

OF
 
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Slightly Medicated

Slightly Medicated

(SliM) Iron Lungs
I count mine out. I should note though. I am a photographer. So I do allot of counting for exposures and such when I am set to the bulb setting. I have trained myself quite well to count down.

II have not had another chance to try the vaporizer again. I brought it with me tonight but ended up not needing it.
 
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Peloton

Peloton

Vapes Hard
I ordered my Evo after hours on Friday.. and USPS says it should be here tomorrow? What! So not only does ThermoVape make the world's best portable vaporizers, they also have the the major shipping companies wrapped around their fingers. Go figure.

In all seriousness though, I look forward to putting my Evo through the paces sooner than expected.
 
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Cinnamonster

Cinnamonster

Well-Known Member
Polmol said:
Hey do you guys think the 25% mother's day rebate is on top of the 10%FC discount? :D
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Nah, it's just one discount... I wish I waited a day. I would've been able to buy 17670's off of their site to save on shipping AND get 25% off... Oh well. I still can't wait to get my Evo. :) You should jump at the sale as soon as you can! You only have 14 hours left!
 
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Bob Loblaw

Bob Loblaw

Astralnaut
Peloton said:
I ordered my Evo after hours on Friday.. and USPS says it should be here tomorrow? What! So not only does ThermoVape make the world's best portable vaporizers, they also have the the major shipping companies wrapped around their fingers. Go figure.

In all seriousness though, I look forward to putting my Evo through the paces sooner than expected.
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am having the exact opposite experience with them. sent back stuff for refund after purchasing my own replacements so that i wouldn't be without. just sent another email. they keep saying they haven't gotten it. i basically bought my darts twice now. would have probably bought one unit or another today w/ that massive discount, but it's hard to spend money someplace where they already owe you. btw, i mailed my package back a month ago
 
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B.

B.

War Criminal
Bob, give 'em a call if you can, that is def out of character for thermovape's service record.


Got my evo last night, damn that little guy rocks. Seems like my LB has officially been dethroned after 3 solid years of service. I followed the advice so many here have given...30 second warmup,primer hit, then the real rip, great results on my first attempt. Tha.ks to all who put up their technique for me to learn from. I'll get some pics and vids later tonight.

I highly recommend the Evo, if ur on the fence, jump on it you'll be happy, especially witb the great 25% discount. Take advantage while you can :)
 
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Bob Loblaw

Bob Loblaw

Astralnaut
B. said:
Bob, give 'em a call if you can, that is def out of character for thermovape's service record.


Got my evo last night, damn that little guy rocks. Seems like my LB has officially been dethroned after 3 solid years of service. I followed the advice so many here have given...30 second warmup,primer hit, then the real rip, great results on my first attempt. Tha.ks to all who put up their technique for me to learn from. I'll get some pics and vids later tonight.

I highly recommend the Evo, if ur on the fence, jump on it you'll be happy, especially witb the great 25% discount. Take advantage while you can :)
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honestly, i can get a little irritable and blowin' that steam off was to help do that as well as maybe possibly flag down "Tim" and get some attention on this without going thru the 8 e-mails and 3 phone calls i have already made on this with someone new. i know that it's out of character, which is why i've let this go on for a month.
 
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Slightly Medicated

Slightly Medicated

(SliM) Iron Lungs
I have some questions. If I want to use hash oil I need the revolution adapter right? They also have a liquid adapter. I was wondering what the glycerol liquid is exactly. I have some glycerin tincture. Is that what they mean by glycerol liquid or is my glycerin tincture something different?

I assume both of those adapters work for the Evolution?
 
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jambandphan03

jambandphan03

in flavor country
In most cases, the glycerin is the base for nicotine liquid for ecigs, but I have made my own THCtincture to "vape" in an ecig in the past, but unless you have really filtered out the glycerin from any plant material and waxes that may be suspended in it during the extraction process ( I used a centrifuge), it can gunk up the heat coil really fast. Also the effect is very minimal compared to using herb or concentrates directly. As long as your VG tincture is strictly food grade vegetable glycerine, it can be used in the same manor as the e cig VG juice is (minus the nic and the added flavoring). Personally, though, I didn't much care for vaporizing VG, but everyone is different.
 
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