Why "cough to get off" is nonsense

Custom Flower Hardware

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Want a different twist? :cool:Put that filled bag in the freezer for 15-20 min then hit it. :freak:Only try this with good lungs though.:nod: Talk about cough to get off! Insane. What happens with frozen vapor? Highest I’ve ever been!:tup:
 
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pakalolo

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"Cough to get off" is one of those nonsense phrases that annoy me, so to avoid an off-topic discussion I copied your post to make a new thread. I have no idea whether you believe this phrase, but for the benefit of those who do, here's why it's nonsense.

Your air tract has irritant receptors whose purpose is to detect mechanical or chemical stimuli that could be harmful to the lungs. Cannabis vapour or smoke is a good example. When triggered, everything in the air path reacts to prevent the potential danger from reaching the lungs. The alveoli shut down and air is expelled at high speed in order to eliminate the irritant. Contrary to popular belief, your body is making every effort not to be affected by the incoming vapour or smoke. Coughing doesn't help you to get off, it actually makes it more difficult.

There. Glad I got that off my chest.
 

Custom Flower Hardware

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"Cough to get off" is one of those nonsense phrases that annoy me, so to avoid an off-topic discussion I copied your post to make a new thread. I have no idea whether you believe this phrase, but for the benefit of those who do, here's why it's nonsense.

Your air tract has irritant receptors whose purpose is to detect mechanical or chemical stimuli that could be harmful to the lungs. Cannabis vapour or smoke is a good example. When triggered, everything in the air path reacts to prevent the potential danger from reaching the lungs. The alveoli shut down and air is expelled at high speed in order to eliminate the irritant. Contrary to popular belief, your body is making every effort not to be affected by the incoming vapour or smoke. Coughing doesn't help you to get off, it actually makes it more difficult.

There. Glad I got that off my chest.
Sorry. I just meant it was a lot of coughing.
 

stickstones

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Want a different twist? :cool:Put that filled bag in the freezer for 15-20 min then hit it. :freak:Only try this with good lungs though.:nod: Talk about cough to get off! Insane. What happens with frozen vapor? Highest I’ve ever been!:tup:

I can confirm this doesn't work...when you fuck up and forget the bag is in the freezer for 20 hours! I was walking all over the house this morning looking for the lost bag, and didn't remember it was in the freezer until I had left for lunch! I gotta do it again, proper this time. Made for a good laugh, though...I guess I didn't need that final bag last night after all.
 

Custom Flower Hardware

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I originally tried it with a herbie bag and just wanted to do a 5 min cool off and I forgot it was in there for 30 min! I was like fuck it and hit it and man I hacked biggtime! I wonder if cause of the temp? I’m glad you’re gonna give it a whirl and I’m dying for feedback. The high was incredible though!
 

Custom Flower Hardware

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Hahaha just for the record gang I think it’s a totally fucking stupid saying also. I just mentioned it sarcastically after the first hybrid whip hits made me go into a coughing fit and when I came out of it that’s the first thing I pissedoffedly thought of!:rofl::uhoh:??
 

Hammahead

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There's a reason this idea came into the toker's universe, and my guess is this: as it's probably the gaseous resin which is most irritant* to the respiratory system; when a circle of tokers would burst out in vicious hacking, they'd be likely to be pretty blitzed after that. Good old causality vs. correlation thingie. * I'd occasionally smoke a joint from my default weed, and even though it feels irritating in my throat, it never makes me cough while smoking it. A really big, intense cloud of vape from that very same weed will make me cough though, like in the olden days after some super potent black hash from the Himalaya or pungent & potent Red Lebanese from back when scoring that was good news. Too bad there are a lot of other, rather nasty things, that may make you hack like a mother, so that really is not a recommended way of judging quality.
 

Abysmal Vapor

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I can also confirm that very cold vapor makes me cough. I imagine vapor particles join together and form larger ones which are more irritating to the lungs.
Now i am glad i am not the only one annoyed about the coughing myth,but i like any myth there is a dose of truth behind it and here it is a bit masohistic .
For example choking/oxygen deprivation increase sexual pleasure for a bunch of people .. So probably it is not boosting anything also agree it actual;y decreases them as the lung tries to purge,but maybe that is what makes the chokin effect even more noticeable,lol .
Maybe even spanking your ass while taking a hit,would even further benefit people ""who cough to get off""...Why not some nipple clips or hot wax ..
 
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Sick Vape

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While I can get high without coughing and I also believe with coughing you exhale stuff that could get you even higher, what about holotropic breathing techniques as conceived by stanislav grof to induce LSD like mind-states without LSD?
Could it be that people who cough alot inadvertently induce kind of holotropic breathing and can get higher than without coughing? (btw: I do not know what the holotropic breathing really is and heavy breathing of cold air in wintertimes makes me cough anyway. I seem to have sensitive lungs)


edit: added coughing with cold air
 
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Squiby

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For example choking/oxygen deprivation increase sexual pleasure for a bunch of people ......
Maybe even spanking your ass while taking a hit,would even further benefit people ""who cough to get off""...Why not some nipple clips or hot wax ..
I imagine those folks pursuing this approach are already wearing nipple clips and the candles are close at hand. :cool:

I'm asthmatic and any oxygen deprivation through coughing or any other mechanism is decidedly unpleasant and actively avoided. I almost never cough when vaping because I take measures to avoid it. Small tokes, mouthpulls and filters all help me get high comfortably and quietly. No coughing or nipple clips required. :)

And my nipple clips stay safely tucked at the back of my drawer...;)
 
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JonnyTheGoat

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"Cough to get off" is one of those nonsense phrases that annoy me, so to avoid an off-topic discussion I copied your post to make a new thread. I have no idea whether you believe this phrase, but for the benefit of those who do, here's why it's nonsense.

Your air tract has irritant receptors whose purpose is to detect mechanical or chemical stimuli that could be harmful to the lungs. Cannabis vapour or smoke is a good example. When triggered, everything in the air path reacts to prevent the potential danger from reaching the lungs. The alveoli shut down and air is expelled at high speed in order to eliminate the irritant. Contrary to popular belief, your body is making every effort not to be affected by the incoming vapour or smoke. Coughing doesn't help you to get off, it actually makes it more difficult.

There. Glad I got that off my chest.

Nicely put
 
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