Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

LabPong said:

Got it....

The Auber 20mm coil i got for my RDK-300 should be fine then? Their website lists the specs as:

" 20.0 mm Coil Heater
Power rating: 120V or 220V 100 Watt.
Coil size: 20.0 mm ID, 12.7 mm width.
Cable length: 55 in. with braided Kevlar sleeve.
Temperature range: 200 to 1000°F. "

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Yes that should work with the battery pack.

I found the same issue as many of you, with the Vrod sticking in the Ss post. I’m happy to report it does not stick on the version 2 Ti post.

McBagginz said:

I found the same issue as many of you, with the Vrod sticking in the Ss post. I’m happy to report it does not stick on the version 2 Ti post.

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Damn ... I wish I would have known before I ordered the vrod with the SS post ... I would have spent the extra $5 for the Ti had I known!!

Hola FC & FCers:

@newvape918

enail controller manual guide PDF??? Please??

Same issue here, VROD sticky resting post, to a point that it wouldn’t come off.
I turned it off. Let it cool down and finally unstuck. Seems a little thing, but it gets annoying sometimes.
The rest is golden. Very good job.

Best,
Z.C.
Stay vaped...

steama said:

Are you using the new 'redesigned post' with the taller head to prevent sticking or are you using the OG size coil post? I have the new taller head Ti post and would definitely recommend it.

If you have the OG post rocking the flower pot from side to side can release a stuck FP head. Don't know if that would work for the VROD because I don't have one.

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I don’t really know if it’s Ti or SS. I ordered Starter VROD kit

Yeah, rocking is how I get the vrod unstuck, seems to work well.

I have a v2 SS post, from the looks of the blog post @ https://www.newvape.com/blog/flowerpot-heater-coil-post-rev-2/

I wonder if the difference in thermal expansion of the 2 metals is a contributing factor...

@Zangano Cruel defaults: https://www.newvape.com/pub/media/s.../attachment/file/p/i/pid_default_settings.jpg

Manual: https://www.newvape.com/pub/media/s...ced_enail_controller_programming_manual_1.pdf

1st try of the Ehle bowl tonight...not sure exactly what was up. Flavor was really good but I was having a difficult time extracting vapor. Would switch back to to the FP at identical temps and pull clouds.

Try turning up your temp a bit and see if you get more vapor.

There's a ton of reading between the lines in the last few pages about temperature differences between the VRod and the ShowerHead. Keep in mind the thermocouple is on the coil. The ShowerHead does not make as much metal on metal contact as the VRod, therefore requiring higher temperatures to achieve the same results. The VRod has a lot more metal on metal contact, better conduction of heat into the mass.

A lot of us have been wondering what the actual temperature is at the material versus what the PID is displaying. I think it is safe to assume the delta between the PID and the bowl temperature is much smaller with the VRod than the Showerhead.

My question is, will development on the ShowerHead end with the VRod release, or will NewVape be adding a ShowerHead with the same coil mating machining that provides for better heat conduction? It would make sense for @NewVape420 @NewVape710 @newvape918 to continue manufacturing the ShowerHead for users who prefer their own coils, but what about those that are bothered by the inefficiency compared with the VRod? Respect! -YaMon

I've noticed so many questions that are pending here. We will be addressing them and be back to regular activity probably by tomorrow or Tuesday. We are currently participating in the 2018 NorCal Cannabis cup. Hoping to get the Vrod to win the best new product category and really excited about it's potential. People are really enjoying the Vrod and other products offered by new vape.
If you'd like to follow along, I am running full coverage of the event on Instagram @NewVape710 and will promptly be putting up some video, if you guys would like to see some of the craziness.

However, looking forward to coming back to regular activities!
.cheers to all!

CP

Used the Ehle glass bowl last night with the VROD. Tore up some into eraser head size about four pieces. Then went uncapped first three to four drags. After pull bowl and and use my shovel tool to chop up and stir. Then I do two,to three strong drags with the cap on. Left with nice brown after.

Want to see if the hive ceramic screen fits the Ehle glass bowl since it has smaller holes.

Back to lab tonight for more fun.

YaMon said:

There's a to of reading between the lines in the last few pages about temperature differences between the VRod and the SHowerHead. Keep in mind the thermocouple is on the coil. The ShowerHead does not make as much metal on metal contact as the VRod, therefore requiring higher temperatures to achieve the same results. The VRod has a lot more metal on metal contact, better conduction of heat into the mass.

A lot of us have been wondering what the actual temperature is as the material versus what the PID is displaying. I think it is safe to assume the delay between the PID and the bowl temperature is much smaller with the VRod than the Showerhead.

My question is, will development on the ShowerHead end with the VRod release, or will NewVape be adding a ShowerHead with the same coil mating machining that provides for better heat conduction? It would make sense for @NewVape420 @NewVape710 @newvape918 to continue manufacturing the ShowerHead for users who prefer their own coils, but what about those that are bothered by the inefficiency compared with the VRod? Respect! -YaMon

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I sorta feel you but if people care about that isn’t that what the VROD is for? I’m a current shower head owner and I only use it for flower. I don’t like mixing the taste of flower with the taste of trates so I don’t care for a head that can twax well. And because I’m not dabbing from my SH I don’t care what temp it runs at as long as I get good flower results.

The highest I go is around 640 on my auber with a carb cap. I prefer the cap idk why.. this temp is a bit high for dabbing but it’s on the high end for flowers as well so you can just run it at like 600 for a good low temp dab and a good flower hit. I guess with the VROD this temp could be lower, maybe around 550. But to me that doesn’t matter in the least. If I cared about it I would get a compatible coil and a VROD but I’m personally happy the SH is designed to work with any coil, even if it’s a little less efficient in transferring heat.

Now if I dabbed off my SH I would agree 100% because for my 25mm coil and banger I do everything I can to keep coil temp as close as possible to banger temp. But that’s because dabbing is very different than flowers. With flowers the air just needs to get hot, dish temp isn’t so important. But for dabs at lower temps(below 600) even 10 degrees will make a noticeable difference and you want to control it and have the most effective heat transfer.

With the VROD out now I wouldn’t suggest the SH for someone who plans to dab from it regularly so I think it’s good how it is. Still wanna try this VROD, but I fear I will like my SH more. Maybe I’ll get into concentrates and herb at the same time but for me it’s not needed. A standard SH hit is strong enough and a dab from my banger is too. If I want a so so tasting combo of herb and trates I’ll just do it convection style. I find those effects to be stronger anyways.

I would buy a newvape coil to solder and a VROD today if I thought it would be better for flower and convection dabs only. But for me I could care less about temps. My SH has been set to 640 for weeks now and I don’t plan on changing it haha.

Hola FC & FCers:
@newvape918
I can’t tell if it’s Ti or SS , but I believe it’s the newest version...
Here’s sitting like 5mm above the bottom...

Here’s another concoction my friend gave to me, very tasty... and my organic coconut oil ABV jar...



And HOT is written on top, not Ti... but is kind of pinkish hue as well...



Note, how well those double weave Ti screens sit on both the Shovelhead (pictured here) and Panhead...

And this’s what my friend grows and extract...
Ice water extraction plus pressed into rosin...
Blackberry Kush & Mix of AIOTA and others...



Those strains are delicious...


I’m quite happy with the VROD...
Just did an AT on the enail controller, is that good??

Best,
Z.C.
Stay vaped...

Just ordered the Steven DHgate bowls, will report back when they arive.

YaMon said:

temperature is at the material

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I ordered a thermocouple thermometer yesterday to check this. Someone somewhere said I have to let it sit on there forever, but I can wait, so we'll see what it is at heat soaked levels anyway.

lol... So I left my FP unattended for 30 minutes and somehow cranked the heat way up without realizing it. Came back to this.. At some angles it looks cool, but mostly not.. Anyone know if/how I can improve the look of this?

steama said:

Damn, that thing looks like hell. How hot was it left on? Sorry buddy, but don't feel too bad because unfortunate shit happens to us human beings all the time. Just remember our food crop farmers have a rough life mostly due to all kinds of circumstances out of their control, maybe not herb farmers so much.

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It was around 1350 degrees.. Might be pickin up a VROD after all.

Anyone know if it's possible to sand this down or something?

Polishing/buffing it would probably help, not sanding !
Once, I polished my torch-anodized omnivap, and it came back like shinny new titanium with no sign of anodization
Good luck with it

Joaon said:

Polishing/buffing it would probably help, not sanding !
Once, I polished my torch-anodized omnivap, and it came back like shinny new titanium with no sign of anodization
Good luck with it

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That's good to hear.. Thanks. Is there a product you could point me to? What type of polish? I'm not very knowledgeable about it.

Edit: Or do you mean I need to use something like this?

I did it with a tiny dremel buffing wheel, but that type of buffing wheel will do the job!
Take care of your hands !
Not sure about product, try common metal polish ?

Hola FC:

Another day of testing. Going down on temps.
I have the Panhead 18mm bowl for flower,
as you can see in this photo...



And you can count the 19 holes at the bottom of the VROD...



Best,
Z.C.
Stay vaped...

Hey everyone and @newvape918 ,
Have you ever had your flowerpot (OG 16mm) head, nut, and fastner bricked?
I can't unscrew anything, tried it cold, just after a heat cycle, with pliers, done some scratchs..
But nothing moved. Only the coil rotate on the head, but this don't help here..

I would have liked to dismantle the OG 16mm to clean it thoroughly and sell it in the classifieds, but now I can't and it is all scratchy
Any advice?

Also, VRod Aquisition Sydrome is very strong .. Well done NewVape, again, lovely job !

As solely just a flower user what would be the advise on which flowerpot to buy, guess the SH right? Looking at options on my first desktop unit. Thanks guys

I think nowadays with the VROD available the only reason to go with the Showerhead would
be if you have another more prefered option for dabbing, otherwise even if u dont intend on dabbing now
it would be better getting the vrod since it has pretty the same performance flower wise AND a very good option vor dabbing/double deckers

@gunmetalshark thank you for the advice, greatly appreciated.