Discontinued VapeXhaleLabs Presents: The Cloud

manchild said:

I've looked everywhere and i can't find a picture of the hydratree that shows the mouthpiece. Can someone point a blind man in the right direction.

Also can we see a picture of both the hydratree and the showerdome side by side??

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I had the same prob until I realised this:
check first page of this thread and you'll see pictures of the
SGW Domed Circulator HydraTube
(I gues that's the showerdome by the way the one seen in the heat retention vid)
and pictures of the
Vertigo Glass 10-Arm Tree HydraTube
(I gues that's the tree which I have never yet seen in action)

Please correct me if this is wrong

^^^^^^^
Yes rhygin you are right.

But what's missing in those pictures is the mouthpiece of the Vertigo 10 arm tree. It seems to get pretty narrow towards the mouth end so was just curious as to what it looked like!

I'm leaning towards the tree coz i already have shower head diffusers in my collection but i do prefer a wider mouth piece.

Do we win a extra hydra tube if we guess what day the 1000th unit is sold on...?

well if you round up they have around 300 following on facebook and twitter

throw in another 100 from FC

and if everyone gets one and convinces one friend to get one then we are going to get damn close soon

but this still leaves us at a loss as to a release

i wanna celebrate the 4th in style

I cannot wait for this device to release. I'm not much into vaporizers... at least not yet.. but when lwien mentioned this one oh boy! All glass pathway, great heat retention and collaboration with Preston and Vertigo... I'm chomping at the bit.

Sinsemillaplease said:

I cannot wait for this device to release. I'm not much into vaporizers... at least not yet.. but when lwien mentioned this one oh boy! All glass pathway, great heat retention and collaboration with Preston and Vertigo... I'm chomping at the bit.

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Don't forget SG

Welcome, Sinse. 'Bout time you made it over here.

lwien said:

Welcome, Sinse. 'Bout time you made it over here.

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Way to go lwien; another convert!

Yeah I think I'm holding off on the pre order just because of SG. I'm waiting for something gridded. I'm such a Glass snob now

minnesnowta said:

Yeah I think I'm holding off on the pre order just because of SG. I'm waiting for something gridded. I'm such a Glass snob now

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Gridding isn't better, just different. I think I will probably prefer the non gridded stuff for a vape actually but we'll see.

Four our international customers, just fill out as much as you can and as long as you have a converter, the unit should work out there. We plan on having a UK and Australian version shortly though, so if you can be patient, I would wait for that one.

The tree mouthpiece is similar to the Showerdome mouthpiece, meaninga 50mm bore @ 5mm glass

Minnesnowta - there will be a very limited amount of Gridded Trees but feel free to put that down as your preference.

I'm in transit at the airport so if there are any other questions, let me know!

hydrophilic said:

minnesnowta said:

Yeah I think I'm holding off on the pre order just because of SG. I'm waiting for something gridded. I'm such a Glass snob now

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Gridding isn't better, just different. I think I will probably prefer the non gridded stuff for a vape actually but we'll see.

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ummm your wrong there. Gridding IMO is better because it makes a finer bubble whichs is going to be a smoother hit. Your trying to get as much surface area to touch water as possible. And I know there's a difference because I have a gridded inverted showerhead, gridded showerhead ac/bubbler and a non gridded showerhead as well.

Sm55 is it possible for me to put down the gridded and if you guys don't have one for me I just get the unit by itself??? If so I'll have an order in tonight.

minnesnowta said:

hydrophilic said:

minnesnowta said:

Yeah I think I'm holding off on the pre order just because of SG. I'm waiting for something gridded. I'm such a Glass snob now

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Gridding isn't better, just different. I think I will probably prefer the non gridded stuff for a vape actually but we'll see.

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ummm your wrong there. Gridding IMO is better because it makes a finer bubble whichs is going to be a smoother hit. Your trying to get as much surface area to touch water as possible. And I know there's a difference because I have a gridded inverted showerhead, gridded showerhead ac/bubbler and a non gridded showerhead as well.

Sm55 is it possible for me to put down the gridded and if you guys don't have one for me I just get the unit by itself??? If so I'll have an order in tonight.

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No, you are wrong, you just don't know why. You are assuming everyone wants that type of hit. In the world of glass it is personal preference. Some like gridded holes because of the reasons you said, and others like non gridded holes because they don't want as diffused of a hit. And with vapor you don't need that diffused of a hit as it is vaporized product and not combusted, hence there are not as many irritants caused by temperature or chemicals.

So you are wrong only because you assume everyone wants the most diffused hit possible. It's not all about how smooth it is, there are plenty of other factors such as drag, how airy the hit is, how the pull feels, how flavorful the hit is etc. etc. Sure the grids provide the most diffused hit as the surface area is much higher, but they may not excel in other areas, and in other areas it is simply personal preference. I would have said exactly what you just said 5 months ago but after spending lots of time on GD I realize gridding isn't always the best for all applications.

Gridded holes definitely have a different feel to them when pulling, as opposed to d cuts, punctured holes, or open ends. I can't say I like or dislike it because I haven't tried enough (imo) variations of gridding and other diffusion methods.

So i found my way into the store...does anybody know if $329.00 is the normal price or pre-order discount price? I did see the limited edition green at $359.00 so I'm wondering if that could be the usual price...does somebody who's already preordered know if this reflects the discount or not?

heh, I found my way into the store as well

Wamba, I don't think you should be posting that information.

Found my way into the store also!



It looks like you can order although I wouldnt try to yet as they have said it isnt ready

So is there the option to get other hydratubes off the get go? Any chance of getting a gridded showerdome? Sorry been getting mixed messages on this

hydrophilic said:

minnesnowta said:

hydrophilic said:

Gridding isn't better, just different. I think I will probably prefer the non gridded stuff for a vape actually but we'll see.

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ummm your wrong there. Gridding IMO is better because it makes a finer bubble whichs is going to be a smoother hit. Your trying to get as much surface area to touch water as possible. And I know there's a difference because I have a gridded inverted showerhead, gridded showerhead ac/bubbler and a non gridded showerhead as well.

Sm55 is it possible for me to put down the gridded and if you guys don't have one for me I just get the unit by itself??? If so I'll have an order in tonight.

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No, you are wrong, you just don't know why. You are assuming everyone wants that type of hit. In the world of glass it is personal preference. Some like gridded holes because of the reasons you said, and others like non gridded holes because they don't want as diffused of a hit. And with vapor you don't need that diffused of a hit as it is vaporized product and not combusted, hence there are not as many irritants caused by temperature or chemicals.

So you are wrong only because you assume everyone wants the most diffused hit possible. It's not all about how smooth it is, there are plenty of other factors such as drag, how airy the hit is, how the pull feels, how flavorful the hit is etc. etc. Sure the grids provide the most diffused hit as the surface area is much higher, but they may not excel in other areas, and in other areas it is simply personal preference. I would have said exactly what you just said 5 months ago but after spending lots of time on GD I realize gridding isn't always the best for all applications.

Gridded holes definitely have a different feel to them when pulling, as opposed to d cuts, punctured holes, or open ends. I can't say I like or dislike it because I haven't tried enough (imo) variations of gridding and other diffusion methods.

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see your right there i completly agree with you. it is all preference. my preference is as much diffusion as possible. With an all glass vapor path no matter how much diffusion you have the taste is still going to be amazing, with smoke its a different story. The only time i dont want diffusion is when im smoking oil and thats why i have a dedicated oil bub with a 3 hole diffy in it. If i want less diffusion i have my beaker with 2 diffys, if i want an airy hit then i go with my VG showerhead, if i want chug i bust out the gridded inverted showerhead, if i want high diffusion in low air volume i grab my gridded showerhead a/c with a mouthpiece, or if i want hella air volume i can add the a/c to either the vg or the inv sh or if i want as little diffusion as possible i can put my 3 hole diffy in my beaker or use my oil bub as well. Ive never been a fan of trees and would never buy any tree perk that wasnt gridded/braced. I own enough showerheads so i dont need another one. Thats why i said i was going to wait for the gridded trees. If you read what i actually posted first i never said anything was better. you came back with the better statement and then i said IMO gridding is better because its what I like. i like a super diffused hit and im betting ill use the hydra tube with the cloud more than anything else just because it was designed for it so I want as much diffusion as i can get in the hydratube.

Sorry folks, those that got past the insanely difficult password to the store saw nothing but what my web developer thought would be good place holders. There isn't even a special edition green model.

Sorry to burst your bubble. We will post final pricing details once we get the proper heat insulator for the unit.

@Lwien - thanks for spreading the good word, we definitely appreciate it!

@Mr. Smoke No More - Whoever put down HydraTree will be given the option of which Tree they want, grid or not gridded. There will only be a limited amount of SG Gridded trees so if everyone who has already requested a tree wants a gridded tree, they are all accounted for. So if you are deciding between a gridded HydraTree or Showerdome....I would go ShowerDome.

BTW - there will not be any gridded ShowerDomes immediately. We do not have a schedule of upcoming HydraTubes except for the fact that we will have a HydraTube with pretty much every percolation type that you have seen from the trio of Sovereignty, StoneGlassWorks, and Vertigo.

One last thing - Like Minnesnowta and Hydrophilic were referring to, there is no "best" diffusion, it is strictly preferential. I happen to think the ShowerDome and HydraTree were two models that would appeal to the majority and then they can fine tune their tastes, more grids, less diffusion, more chug, less drag, etc etc.

This just gave me an idea for the next generation HydraTube....back to the think tank! The Cloud and the HydraTrees are just the beginning. This monkey has more tricks up his sleeves that will keep the Cloud fresh and innovative

Word Minnesnowta, you know what's good. Respect.
I came off as maybe a bit d-bag'ish too my bad.
I think the gridding won't be too much really now that I think about it as it is still a single chamber. I have actually myself been on a gridded "kick," lately, those gridded inverted circs Preston has been putting out lately look completely epic.

stonemonkey55 said:

Four our international customers, just fill out as much as you can and as long as you have a converter, the unit should work out there. We plan on having a UK and Australian version shortly though, so if you can be patient, I would wait for that one.

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Im gonna be patient and make do with my buddha till you release the international 220v version .....

hydrophilic said:

minnesnowta said:

hydrophilic said:

Gridding isn't better, just different. I think I will probably prefer the non gridded stuff for a vape actually but we'll see.

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ummm your wrong there. Gridding IMO is better because it makes a finer bubble whichs is going to be a smoother hit. Your trying to get as much surface area to touch water as possible. And I know there's a difference because I have a gridded inverted showerhead, gridded showerhead ac/bubbler and a non gridded showerhead as well.

Sm55 is it possible for me to put down the gridded and if you guys don't have one for me I just get the unit by itself??? If so I'll have an order in tonight.

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No, you are wrong, you just don't know why. You are assuming everyone wants that type of hit. In the world of glass it is personal preference. Some like gridded holes because of the reasons you said, and others like non gridded holes because they don't want as diffused of a hit. And with vapor you don't need that diffused of a hit as it is vaporized product and not combusted, hence there are not as many irritants caused by temperature or chemicals.

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I agree, vapor is only going to get so smooth. The whole idea of vaporizing is to inhale herbal material without burning it, hence no or limited amounts of carbon, various carcinogens including phenyl hydride, so therefore in my opinion vapor can be only diffused so much before just plain diluting the hit. It's all about looks and appeal, today it's gridded and tomorrow who knows.

Hello everyone,

Back from a long weekend, full of booze and vaping so I had no time to connect myself. So on my way to work, stuck in the metro and doing my daily first fuckcombustion tcheck, I discovered in awe that the Cloud was on pre order since friday (evening time in France so I was already partying when the annoucement came).

I got afraid that i was too late to be in the first 1000 but I think I made it.
Pre order complete ! I mean, i hope so, I got the " we will notify you as soon as the Cloud ships".
(but I did not get any confirmation email so I hope it's normal)

As far as the weather goes here, it s a sunny and non cloudy monday here in Paris, the only cloud I can see is on my screen and puts a big smile on my face

Congrats again to the Vpxhl Team !! and to FC also !
I m so happy to be part of this community.

Wishing a great week to everyone !!

wow, so many people pre-orderd the vapexhale. you must be convinced about this piece.

maybe i didnt look at the right place but please can someone tell me, where pictures from the vaporizer itself are? any video that shows how it works or what kind of clouds it produces? is this a real picture on the official vapexhale website? it looks like drawn with a computerprogramm.
i only see much of glass. glass everywhere. but i am more interessted in the vaporizer itself and how it works.

any link or suggestion for me?

hydrophilic said:

Word Minnesnowta, you know what's good. Respect.
I came off as maybe a bit d-bag'ish too my bad.
I think the gridding won't be too much really now that I think about it as it is still a single chamber. I have actually myself been on a gridded "kick," lately, those gridded inverted circs Preston has been putting out lately look completely epic.

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Yeah I havin options . I actually had the oppertunity to buy one of the first gridded inverted showerheads he made (I'm Nomis Child on GD) and I absolutely love the thing. I'm pretty sure I'm going to try to get a waffle to match now if he'll do it.

SM: I put a preorder in. I'll hold off on glass for a bit just for you guys lol

vaporist said:

wow, so many people pre-orderd the vapexhale. you must be convinced about this piece.

maybe i didnt look at the right place but please can someone tell me, where pictures from the vaporizer itself are? any video that shows how it works or what kind of clouds it produces? is this a real picture on the official vapexhale website? it looks like drawn with a computerprogramm.
i only see much of glass. glass everywhere. but i am more interessted in the vaporizer itself and how it works.

any link or suggestion for me?

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yes, open your eyes, skim a bit and stop being lazy

page 1 and page 18 and 19 of this thread for pics and vid.