Pjake
It's all in the reflexes.
I hold the nano sideways and hit the dry stem so it's parallel with the floor. No herb goes anywhere.
E-Nano from Epickai
grind and tamp lightly, when you draw it get pulled into the stem. The oven is easy to just blow any little bit of dust out. It was made to be used upright by design, I think the oven will survive pretty good. Blow it out, shake upside down. I try to keep it clean as well (that's my OCD), but I do think it will do no harm to use upright, just tilt to change or stir. I've had my nano a couple of months now, and it's used A LOT. It's very clean....
Frostiestone
Well-Known Member
OK. So i dont have to pull the stem out every hit?
hweezi
formally cwheezy
The weed will pretty much stay were it is if you tamper it slightly. you could put another screen over it if you really want to be sure that it's not going anywhere.
So I figured out that heat retention is the biggest thing about making substrates for the nano. If you're using stainless steel screens, you want them to be fairly thick. Thankfully the screens for the Lotus are pretty damn thick. I squished three together then played with 'em a bit till I got them nice and compacted and then torched the shit out of them. What you want is the blob of screens to stay red hot for at least a few seconds after you've torched it. Otherwise you're dabs will just fall right through and wont vape because it's not thick enough, just remember the denser its the better it'll vape.
I've got the other basket screen below just collecting the 'claim. I'll pop it out and plop 'er into my adjustable gong and stick it real close to the heater
I just had to find a way to be able to solely use concentrates with the nano. I think I can stop searching now.
I'll post a video of 'er in action here shortly.
Well I fucked that up.
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howie105
Well-Known Member
Once the grind and level of packing is right the load will not just fall out of the stem, however if you go too fine and too tight the draw gets restricted. So it is fairly easy to tell when you have gone too far. You must experiment more, in the name of science.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I find if I use too much herb I get too tight of pack as you mentioned @howie105 because the heating element butts up against your product and packs it down. It results in not enough air flow circulating through your load.
Try playing around with load sizes and screen distance from the heating element. You can use the E-pic but I like to find what works for me. I do use the epic for stirring and getting rid of the leftover ABV out.
EDIT
After you take your first draw the cannabis sticks together somewhat so it's not going anywhere if it's used horizontally. You can take a draw naturally with the unit at an angle. The Nano doesn't need to be used standing straight up.
Whatever way works for you is the best way.
Try playing around with load sizes and screen distance from the heating element. You can use the E-pic but I like to find what works for me. I do use the epic for stirring and getting rid of the leftover ABV out.
EDIT
After you take your first draw the cannabis sticks together somewhat so it's not going anywhere if it's used horizontally. You can take a draw naturally with the unit at an angle. The Nano doesn't need to be used standing straight up.
Whatever way works for you is the best way.
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Uzer
Well-Known Member
You don't have to but I would, this is a convection vape not conduction so you don't have to leave the stem in.
phooka
Well-Known Member
hey, stoked that my nano is here! heating up for her maiden voyage now. One question though....Is the stem supposed to be very wiggly (falls off completely if held upside down) or am i supposed to press hard enough for it to go over that little lip? Just nervous and dont wanna break something right away
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My dry stem stops at that little lip, while the GonG goes past it. Threw me off quite a bit at first, I thought my nano was defective. I contacted Andy and he said no no your nano is fine it's supposed to stop at the lip. So while my GonG goes a little further than the dry stem, I just account for that when I set my screen.
I personally just use the dry stem for the first puff to suck all the flavor out. then the material goes into the GonG for the rest of the session. I don't like the idea of little bits of crap falling into my nano, but first pack always stays put nicely. Still though, I usually point it up towards the sky!
PS Thanks for being here FC. And thanks for making the Nano @ACE OF VAPE
I'm going through enormous struggles in my life that won't seem to cease but this forum is always here, and I actually feel somehwhat appreciated here. It's the closest thing I have to a home right now. And my E-Nano is always waiting for me, nice and warm in this cold room. So grateful to have solace here.
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BabyFacedFinster
Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
I personally just use the dry stem for the first puff to suck all the flavor out. then the material goes into the GonG for the rest of the session. I don't like the idea of little bits of crap falling into my nano, but first pack always stays put nicely. Still though, I usually point it up towards the sky!
PS Thanks for being here FC. And thanks for making the Nano @ACE OF VAPE
I'm going through enormous struggles in my life that won't seem to cease but this forum is always here, and I actually feel somehwhat appreciated here. It's the closest thing I have to a home right now. And my E-Nano is always waiting for me, nice and warm in this cold room. So grateful to have solace here.
Most times I enjoy the water perc with my gong. It is pretty involved in setting it up and breaking it down, but it has become a ritual in the evening. If I need to vape fast I'll use the Lotus cap on the waterpipe.
I also enjoy my sessions in the evening. I also enjoy stopping by here on the FC where my like-minded friends hang out.
I posted earlier that the nano throws off some warm heat for the hands. (Yes... warm heat, those that burn wood know that it' s just a warmer heat)
My hands have a way of getting cold during the winter nights. I have stuffed a old sock with hard beans and microwaved it for a few minutes to create a hand-warmer. The nano will kick ass in this regard and I will no longer need the smelly sock.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
When I'm using my GonG with my WT I take it off the Nano after I take a draw. When I use my Nano as a session vape, I don't take my stem off after every draw. I stir about once or twice halfway and towards the end of my session. If I'm going to walk away from my unit I take the stem out.
I have a wonderful tasty strain this evening, an excellant quality batch of GrapeApe. It is awesome in the Enano. A little chill in the air, we are having to fire up the wood stove tonight brrrrr.
Have a toasty epic evening with your Nano.
I have a wonderful tasty strain this evening, an excellant quality batch of GrapeApe. It is awesome in the Enano. A little chill in the air, we are having to fire up the wood stove tonight brrrrr.
Have a toasty epic evening with your Nano.
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Vapor_Eyes
taste buds
I usually pull it off every hit but I've let it sit for 10+ minutes with the stem on. If you're leaving the stem on you should try a lower temp with more distance from the screen. I hold mine sideways when using the dry stem.
I suggest you try a smaller load, just enough to cover the screen. You may be surprised at the results. One of the best aspects of the E-Nano is how efficient it can be.
Frostiestone
Well-Known Member
sweet. Just tried it, this is the perfect level of medication. So quick and happy, good morning vibes to all you loggers 
. However, tonight I'm having a friend over tonight that owns an SSV and tends to expect a lot out of a desktop. I haven't had a chance to play around with this yet, but for big, cloudy as hell sessions, I assume the best result will come from pushing the screen back a bit and loading a larger bowl (.1 to .2 even?). Right?
We will probably get creative and attach his SSV whip to the gong for fun, will report back later! Keep it subtle guys
. However, tonight I'm having a friend over tonight that owns an SSV and tends to expect a lot out of a desktop. I haven't had a chance to play around with this yet, but for big, cloudy as hell sessions, I assume the best result will come from pushing the screen back a bit and loading a larger bowl (.1 to .2 even?). Right?We will probably get creative and attach his SSV whip to the gong for fun, will report back later! Keep it subtle guys
howie105
Well-Known Member
sweet. Just tried it, this is the perfect level of medication. So quick and happy, good morning vibes to all you loggers
We will probably get creative and attach his SSV whip to the gong for fun, will report back later! Keep it subtle guys
To get big hits I always need to balance out the amount of bud, level of grind and draw rate. No surprise many of the same things you do with the 7th floor models for best results.
The amount of bud for clouds I use less then I use for sipping type draws because I want everything to go off at once. Downside lots of reloads.
Grind is tougher to call, still looking for even fast heat but it has to balance against moisture content and lung capacity. My preference at the moment is dryer bud and a coarser grind.
Draw rate, in my case it tends to go up with glass and down with dry stems. Its just easier for me to manage results with a short dry stem.
Of course all the above fits into the temperature control package to some degree which you can also manipulate with the rotary dial but its just not my thing with this vape. Good Luck
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I think amount and draw speed is the key with the Nano, also distance from the oven I fully agree with you there @howie105. I don't like my cannabis too dry because then it has some harshness. I think grinding to a medium to a coarse grind and let your cannabis sit a little while say an hour before using works well for me.
With this unit I notice that the flavor stays until the very end of my session.
Its all good!
With this unit I notice that the flavor stays until the very end of my session.
Its all good!
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Jaindoh
Well-Known Member
Yeah, for clouds I tend to load itty bitty 2-4 hit bowls, closer to the heater, lower temperatures (toward 6 for me).
You have to load repeatedly, but it's a proven technique. Here's the video I used as an initial guide, Caligula's 2-hit extraction
You have to load repeatedly, but it's a proven technique. Here's the video I used as an initial guide, Caligula's 2-hit extraction
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whateverman
Well-Known Member
Is it just me or there's a shortage of videos of the E-nano? I waiting anxiously for The Vape Critic to publish his review on youtube. He's cool, not as thorough as I'd like him to be, but he's quite informative.
Frostiestone
Well-Known Member
look up /u/thecwest on reddit.com/r/vaporents he puts tons of nano videos up. I believe he hangs out here too.
howie105
Well-Known Member
Tiny manufacture, tiny media patch IMO.
I'll be honest, the power cord isn't my favorite (for both feel and stealth), but lately every but my nano leaves me feeling a bit less satisfied, while the efficiency is kinda sick in many ways (saves material, extracts every drop). What I'm saying is ts hard to not use it, too good. Tonight, grinding less fine, bit smoother, less bang than fine grind per hit, nice sipping.
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BabyFacedFinster
Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
I stopped experimenting. I got to where I kinda know how much to shove in there. With a little packing I get the weedline 
right around the same level in the gong.
I use very little in the scheme of things. If I'm not ripped after a bowl, well what the hell, I pack another.
Eventually, I get fit shaced and I stop.
I have have stopped for now Bump
right around the same level in the gong.I use very little in the scheme of things. If I'm not ripped after a bowl, well what the hell, I pack another.
Eventually, I get fit shaced and I stop.
I have have stopped for now
Bump
Vapor_Eyes
taste buds
I've developed a feel for it too. At first I would always try and load a small amount and it would be way too much. It really changes your perception on the amounts of herb you're using. I was at a friend's house and he showed me his new vape and I was horrified to watch him loading .3 in it, it looked like 3 grams worth.I stopped experimenting. I got to where I kinda know how much to shove in there. With a little packing I get the weedline
I use very little in the scheme of things. If I'm not ripped after a bowl, well what the hell, I pack another.
Eventually, I get fit shaced and I stop.
I have have stopped for now
Jaindoh
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I've gotten a feel for loading the bowl and placement vs temperature myself and it's been a few weeks since I over-vaped any bud.
I also did a thing where I found a pen that was the right size to tamp, cut it to 3", and put another endcap from another pen into that end. I haven't found a stirrer to try to melt into a pencap for the other end, but that's the next step. Either way, having a small, easily handled tamper is great.
I also did a thing where I found a pen that was the right size to tamp, cut it to 3", and put another endcap from another pen into that end. I haven't found a stirrer to try to melt into a pencap for the other end, but that's the next step. Either way, having a small, easily handled tamper is great.
http://imgur.com/gallery/7q9ouxa.jpg
Really hope this pic posts
Will post tomorrow morNing on PC, can't post from imgur.com to phone anymore
Really hope this pic posts
Will post tomorrow morNing on PC, can't post from imgur.com to phone anymore
hweezi
formally cwheezy
Frostiestone
Well-Known Member
You beautiful log slogger, you.. Those milkshot videos on Vaporents really caught my eye in my early days of vaporizing, they're truly very well done. Send them out to Andy, I'm sure he could whip together quite the illustrious little promo video using some of those shots dude!eh that's me !
