Discontinued The Firefly Vaporizer
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njluvdr
Keep calm and vape on
My rma is 24 and that's for the lid only. Not all rerurns are complete units making for a more impressive defect rate.
green2brown
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I received my Firefly earlier today and I've run a few bowls through it now. Should it require a faster draw to avoid charring? Because mine does. I think SliM said somewhere in this thread that he had to speed his draw up from what he had anticipated. I'm thinking I'm discovering the same thing. My first two bowls both charred a bit. Then my third bowl I pulled faster and WOW. Smooth, flavorful clouds of vapor. 7 or 8 rips later and I was as medicated as I'd hope to be off the .15g I used - a rarity in a portable. I'm prepared to fall in love. A few more bowls like the last and I'm sure I will. 
mitchgo61
I go where the thrills are
Personally, I would never, ever, ever consider taking my 240 dollar FF to a concert. One thing I've learned in decades of (800+) concerts: security guys can and will confiscate whatever they want. Just seems like an unnecessary risk. This is why God gave us more disposable units (or as Steama called it, the "drop on the ground" quality...)
I received my Firefly earlier today and I've run a few bowls through it now. Should it require a faster draw to avoid charring? Because mine does. I think SliM said somewhere in this thread that he had to speed his draw up from what he had anticipated. I'm thinking I'm discovering the same thing. My first two bowls both charred a bit. Then my third bowl I pulled faster and WOW. Smooth, flavorful clouds of vapor. 7 or 8 rips later and I was as medicated as I'd hope to be off the .15g I used - a rarity in a portable. I'm prepared to fall in love. A few more bowls like the last and I'm sure I will.
You just have to find your rhythm with it, but yes, you can get charred bits if you hit too slow, or hit too slow while holding down the button too long...there is a zone where it will not quite combust but cause a bit of charring. Sounds like you are already high on the learning curve...so to speak.
(Great to see so many new FF users loving the device!!)
Un Prophete
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Ha, I think I meant to put the "probably" somewhere else. I'm not high, I swear. And that's true mitchgo, though it is very easily used for tobacco as well. Maybe I'll just have to carry some tobacco with me, even though I've never smoked a day in my life. That'll throw them! But just out of curiosity, what would be a couple examples of "drop on the ground" quality vapes?
Slightly Medicated
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I am really happy I got the extra batteries and such. It helped me get through today easier. I am still really enjoying this vaporizer. It might just be the smoothest dry vapor I have had in a portable to date.
mckeen
Tumrgrwer
I've dropped my Pax numerous times. I kicked my Davinci once. I dropped it then kicked it on accident.
mckeen
Tumrgrwer
Agree +100%. I'm using back ups now. No where near the taste, not even close. My little FF is at the doctors, I'm jonesen.
A nice case that would hold the FF, the battery charger, extra batteries, and...
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
I think that means a disposable one, something you wouldn't be too devastated over losing it. For it's price, the FF doesn't fit the category.
Un Prophete
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I agree, that's how I took it, I'm just curious what some examples might be. A Pax is still pricey enough that I wouldn't call it disposable. Hopefully the Grasshopper will fit that bill, and of course no one would bat an eye if they saw it.
mitchgo61
I go where the thrills are
Yes, that's what I was referring to..."drop on the ground" as in not worrying about losing it, not as in "tough enough to survive a drop to the ground". For me the MFLB and VB2 are portables I wouldn't lose sleep over if I lost them. Or had to.
And back on topic, no way would I feel that way about the FF. Hence, I wouldn't even consider taking it into a concert.
hoyo77
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I have been up most of the night enjoying this Vape. It amazes me how cool the vapor is, even on those long draws the vapor is still surprisingly cool!! This vape is amazing. There is no other vape to compare it to. FF is in a category all to itself. It is a game changer. I dont think anybodies reviews on this forum could do this vape justice! like i said when i reviewed it...just go buy one and see for yourself.
EveryDayAmnesiac
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I have found that I'm only drawing too hard when I can hear it. Anything less than that, which can still be a pretty decent speed - faster than you might expect and faster than I can with my Ascent - is fine, for me.
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Shiggity
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For me it seems that it would be very hard to draw too fast. I find if I don't think about going slow or fast the right speed just happens automatically. Someone said to do it like you were "drinking from a straw." That sounds about correct. On occasion when I have pulled a slower draw I also detected some localized charring.
green2brown
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I am REALLY liking the Firefly. Still just figuring out it's quirks, though.
I've found that ~.1g is the ideal load. Anything more and the risk of charring increases significantly.
The draw speed needed is much faster than I expected, and after becoming accustomed to draws like that required for the MFLB it's taking me a bit of conscious effort to break the slow draw habit. I'm sure this makes it easier for the average user to just pick it up and get good hits though. And I'm definitely not complaining.
The flavor on this thing is remarkable. The Ascent is probably comparable in this department, but the FF gives me a denser hit and thus fuller flavor.
The vapor itself is incredibly smooth. I took a single sip of water after my most recent session, but that was just to calm a slight tickle in the back of my throat. I'm surprisingly happy with the battery life right now, but we'll see if that changes. I've now run 5 loads on this current charge, each about 5-8 hits.
My only real qualm is the bowl size. I'm not a fan of having to reload multiple times for a single session. If this could do .15-.2 then I'd be satisfied. But .1 is a bit too small for me. Regardless, the FF is a phenomenal portable and has taken top rank in my portable lineup.
I've found that ~.1g is the ideal load. Anything more and the risk of charring increases significantly.
The draw speed needed is much faster than I expected, and after becoming accustomed to draws like that required for the MFLB it's taking me a bit of conscious effort to break the slow draw habit. I'm sure this makes it easier for the average user to just pick it up and get good hits though. And I'm definitely not complaining.
The flavor on this thing is remarkable. The Ascent is probably comparable in this department, but the FF gives me a denser hit and thus fuller flavor.
The vapor itself is incredibly smooth. I took a single sip of water after my most recent session, but that was just to calm a slight tickle in the back of my throat. I'm surprisingly happy with the battery life right now, but we'll see if that changes. I've now run 5 loads on this current charge, each about 5-8 hits.
My only real qualm is the bowl size. I'm not a fan of having to reload multiple times for a single session. If this could do .15-.2 then I'd be satisfied. But .1 is a bit too small for me. Regardless, the FF is a phenomenal portable and has taken top rank in my portable lineup.
Slightly Medicated
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Yea I was really expecting the MFLB or the PAX type draw where you are almost directing the vapor into your mouth by creating the slightest bit of suction. I think from what I read I was expecting to have to draw really slowly, so the first couple of times I got charring as well. I found the draw is much closer to a hitting a pipe then it is to hitting a vaporizer. I think one of the worst things you can do during your session is "pre-heat" the oven without drawing through the device... I think it is just a waste of the battery. When you get you hit pattern down you can really prolong the battery. I find I load about .2 or so per session and don't get any charring. I pack it down just enough to fit in that amount. Then on the first draw I do a slightly stronger puff to loosen the load in the bowl and fluff it up some. This increased the airflow between the material and reduces the charring effect.
green2brown
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Have you weighed your loads? When you say you "pack it down just enough to fit in that amount," are you fitting it so that the material is level with the top of the glass bowl? I've been weighing my loads and .15 and up overflows the glass bowl, even when packed down fairly tightly. When I tried .2, it was overflowing and when I snapped the cover back on the bud was clearly being pressed against the glass window.
Glad I'm not the only one to have this issue with the Cera LL. It really is geared toward a light vapor, and trying to get it to a temp where you can see some clouds, is pretty much like putting a torch to your lips.
Slightly Medicated
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First I loaded it:
and then I weighed it out:
Did that just now... I have to admit I am kind of surprised it came out to .2 exactly.
and then I weighed it out:
Did that just now... I have to admit I am kind of surprised it came out to .2 exactly.
green2brown
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Thanks for the visual, SliM! Your grind is finer than mine, so that explains that. Easier to fit more if it's ground more. I guess I'll try a somewhat finer grind to fit more herb and see how it affects performance.
dirty_honest
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Premium package + Sarah C = Firefly HEAVEN. Hands down, the best customer service to go along with the best portable vape. Is it just me, or is anyone else at all curious to see what Sarah looks like? 
mitchgo61
I go where the thrills are
Pretty much the amount I use, maybe a teeny bit less. I try to go perfectly level with the edge of the glass bowl when it's slightly compacted.
It does, indeed, do better with a faster draw than the MFLB. Much more like a desktop convection vape to me...I find my speed similar to the V Tower, but the FF does require a more even, steady draw, at any speed...any stop/starts or draw inconsistencies can pull material out of the bowl more easily.
dac13
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Ive heard some people saying the finer grind doesnt work as well and that they prefer to put a whole .1-.15 buds in, or just break it up a little by hand. Ive heard the fine grind makes the stuff go all over and get in the air channels. Have you tried using it without grinding to compare? I dont have one so I cant compare but im interested to hear if other people think it performs better when it is less ground up
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