Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

kindbeats

Terps Up, Temps Down
I just want to thank G and Delta9 for offering their help to me after my town was destroyed by Hurricane Sandy. I have been an oil only guy for the past year and with no water, heat, or electricity expected in my town for up to a month, I have no way to make or purge my oil. Since I have to switch to flower for a bit with no means of vaping it, G and Delta9 have been generous enough to send my Persei to me along with a free Bender so that I can have a means of vaping until this entire ordeal is behind me. I cannot thank them enough and this why no company can even come close to touching Delta 9's customer service. In a few days, at least some type of normalcy shall return to my life. Thanks, G! :bowdown:
 

Bob Loblaw

Astralnaut
I just want to thank G and Delta9 for offering their help to me after my town was destroyed by Hurricane Sandy. I have been an oil only guy for the past year and with no water, heat, or electricity expected in my town for up to a month, I have no way to make or purge my oil. Since I have to switch to flower for a bit with no means of vaping it, G and Delta9 have been generous enough to send my Persei to me along with a free Bender so that I can have a means of vaping until this entire ordeal is behind me. I cannot thank them enough and this why no company can even come close to touching Delta 9's customer service. In a few days, at least some type of normalcy shall return to my life. Thanks, G! :bowdown:
wow, wow and wow. that is above and beyond. hey kindbeats if you know of anyone else who has oil in need of a pen who has been hit by this, let me know. would love to donate a unit and a few carts w/ extra batts. enjoy ur new piece!
 

kindbeats

Terps Up, Temps Down
Hey Bob, thanks so much for the offer! I will try and talk to one or two of my friends at some point tonight/tomorrow to see if either can use a unit right about now.
 

Bob Loblaw

Astralnaut
Hey Bob, thanks so much for the offer! I will try and talk to one or two of my friends at some point tonight/tomorrow to see if either can use a unit right about now.
no sweat, keep in touch. it'll be an HVD, but i'll also have a charger and 4 or 5 batts as well as a 1.5 and a 2.4 cart, small e-cig case and small batt case as well.

good lookin' out as well mephisto. we can't re-medicate the whole east coast, but we can make a dent :)
 

Bugsy

VapeHare
I was just reorganizing all the various vaporizer parts I have and discovered that the Extreme Q glass elbow adapter(with screen) fits the Bender perfectly. AND PlanetVape sells all the Extreme Q parts. Have fun with the bender attached to your favorite water toys. :)
 

Porquiplane

Look Into My Eyes
I just want to thank G and Delta9 for offering their help to me after my town was destroyed by Hurricane Sandy. I have been an oil only guy for the past year and with no water, heat, or electricity expected in my town for up to a month, I have no way to make or purge my oil. Since I have to switch to flower for a bit with no means of vaping it, G and Delta9 have been generous enough to send my Persei to me along with a free Bender so that I can have a means of vaping until this entire ordeal is behind me. I cannot thank them enough and this why no company can even come close to touching Delta 9's customer service. In a few days, at least some type of normalcy shall return to my life. Thanks, G! :bowdown:

Jersey? New York? Believe those were the two worst hit, unless mistaken. Porquiplane is Central NJ. Shit sucked here. Anyone living shore-side lost their houses and many belongings. Alot of people are without power still. Mine was out until monday. its hard being in a house with no heat or power when its near 30 degrees at night. You could hear the fire engine and police going all night. Tons of looting and theft. No power, no security. Occasional gun shot, yet you dont hear of why. Even now grocery stores are mobbed and alot of food is out. Sometimes you buy food and its already spoiled. Had it happen with cheese and yogurt. Gas lines are stupid long and people are crazy over gas (case in new york a guy was shot over GAS). Now Christie imposed a gas "thing" where you can only get gas a certain day of the week with certain license plate number/letter. So even if you have no gas for your generator or car, you cannot get it. Police will shoo you away. Was out of work a week because of it. It really does put a huge STOP sign right in the middle of peoples lives. Many friends lost shoreline houses. Porqui had damages to a shore house with horrible basement flooding and no power still. Luckily in warmth with family now. It will be a long, and for some, unrecoverable display of mother natures brute power. Boardwalks and amusement parks along the coast will never be the same. Some were completely wiped out. JCP&L made a couple good moves with staffing, but other companies could have done more. They are the ones that make the recovery time difference.
 
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kindbeats

Terps Up, Temps Down
Jersey? New York? Believe those were the two worst hit, unless mistaken. Porquiplane is Central NJ. Shit sucked here. Anyone living shore-side lost their houses and many belongings. Alot of people are without power still. Mine was out until monday. its hard being in a house with no heat or power when its near 30 degrees at night. You could hear the fire engine and police going all night. Tons of looting and theft. No power, no security. Occasional gun shot, yet you dont hear of why. Even now grocery stores are mobbed and alot of food is out. Sometimes you buy food and its already spoiled. Had it happen with cheese and yogurt. Gas lines are stupid long and people are crazy over gas (case in new york a guy was shot over GAS). Now Christie imposed a gas "thing" where you can only get gas a certain day of the week with certain license plate number/letter. So even if you have no gas for your generator or car, you cannot get it. Police will shoo you away. Was out of work a week because of it. It really does put a huge STOP sign right in the middle of peoples lives. Many friends lost shoreline houses. Porqui had damages to a shore house with horrible basement flooding and no power still. Luckily in warmth with family now. It will be a long, and for some, unrecoverable display of mother natures brute power. Boardwalks and amusement parks along the coast will never be the same. Some were completely wiped out. JCP&L made a couple good moves with staffing, but other companies could have done more. They are the ones that make the recovery time difference.

Long Beach Island, NY. It's a barrier island off of Long Island and the entire town is destroyed. They're saying no power, water, or sewers for up to one month. I've been fortunate enough to have family to in Brooklyn where I can get internet access and charge my batteries, but I've been returning home every day to get more clean up and repairs done. I've never experienced anything remotely similar to this. The streets are buried in sand and sewage, looting, entire blocks of houses burnt down, exploded cars, abandoned cars, 7pm curfews enforced by the National Guard, military rations, circling helicopters...it's simply surreal. I hope you are safe in Central NJ and that you weren't hit too hard.
 
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JoeKickass

Well-Known Member
They're saying these superstorms will be commonplace soon. Oceans temps rising and climate change and whatnot
 
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MaxVapor

The Professor
They're saying these superstorms will be commonplace soon. Oceans temps rising and climate change and whatnot

"Mayan Apocalypse".

it's simply surreal.
My heart breaks for you! My sister lost her home when an entire mobile home park burned down in a wild fire a few years ago. Much smaller thing than Sandy, but I will never forget standing in the ashes and seeing nothing around me but devastation. I remember thinking it felt fake, like a movie, my brain had no way to process the reality of it so it reverted to seeing it as fiction. Glad to hear that you will be able to get your meds.


Back OT, I am sitting here (where the most I can complain about is unseasonable warmth) with a few grams of various concentrates just waiting for the Iris/Herc to show up. Has anyone with a Bender tried putting a dab on the top of the glass spike? I think I will try this with some Gold this week.

For those with more engineering know-how than me, do you think it would be possible to test the temp of a Bender using an infra-red thermometer?

Edit: Just wanted to add that the generosity of people here never ceases to amaze me.
 

OF

Well-Known Member
Gas lines are stupid long and people are crazy over gas (case in new york a guy was shot over GAS). Now Christie imposed a gas "thing" where you can only get gas a certain day of the week with certain license plate number/letter. So even if you have no gas for your generator or car, you cannot get it.

I'm not sure about that shot part, here we heard a guy pulled a gun (big difference) when those in line objected to his 'cutting in'. Happens here all the time, try cutting the wrong guy off on the freeway. Bad form of course, but not the same as getting shot over gas.

I don't mean to sound cold about the loss and temporary adverse living conditions but it does 'come with the territory'. Buy a fancy beach front house on a barrier island and you might get flooded out someday. It's not hard to figure any more than those of us who foolishly live in 'earthquake country' here might get shaken up or those who rebuild in the Mississippi flood plains who get flooded out every 30 years or so. The risk is real and has always been. Or as pointed out, those with houses in the wild woods might face the occasional wild fire.

The odd/even thing is old hat to those of us who survived 'Carter's gas shortage'. It's at most a one day delay. Folks here worked around it. Some borrowed gas, we borrowed each other's cars (with 'today's numbers) or 'borrowed a few gallons until I can get some'. People helping each other, not waiting on the Government to do it for them. IMO it was better than the longer lines with smaller purchases. I know guys who would 'top up' a few gallons 'just in case'.

They're saying these superstorms will be commonplace soon. Oceans temps rising and climate change and whatnot

Pony Pucky.

I heard Al Gore too, he just wants more of your money. I also listened to yet another 'expert' explain how the 'greenhouse gas caused sea level rise' was contributing to the storm flooding! Anyone notice the ocean getting bigger where they live? Watch the low lying islands like Belize disappear? Or coral reefs disappearing beneath the waves never to be seen again. Or wondered about the flooded out docks on the local waterfront?

It was a bad storm, the worst most can recall seeing perhaps. But history knows better and logic and 'real science' tells a slightly different story than the 'global change' guys would like you to think. For myself I'll continue to look on such 'junk science' as Big Al's "Hockey stick" fantasy graph with a jaundiced eye.

You need to understand that in my youth we were warned that air pollution from autos (specifically PAN smog like in Mexico City, the stuff that makes The Great Smokey Mountains 'smokey') was going to cause disastrous world wide Global Cooling. Several degrees in our lifetimes, complete with larger polar ice caps lowering sea level 'as much as 200 feet in some places' (????), forcing world wide famine when ocean shipping collapsed. Folks would starve because we couldn't ship food from the new places we could grow it to the hungry people living in the now cooler places we couldn't. The same exact sort of people with the opposite boogie man. Our local High School Science Club (yes, I was a member.....) got a lecture from a clown from Dow Chemical on just this topic. Many of us took it seriously....we were younger then.

Did you know they at one time grew table grapes in England? Or ice skated on the Thames? Check out 'the little ice age' or 'Medieval Warm Period', both predated SUVs by a fair bit. It has been warmer and cooler in recorded history. Today is not abnormal historically.

Best of luck to all facing tough recoveries, and condolences on the losses and hardships. But IMO we should try to keep it in perspective?

End of rant, at ease, smoke (or better still, vape) if you got 'em. Thanks for listening.

OF
 

kittyboy

Well-Known Member
I feel for all the folks who are misplaced from storm. It is never fun. It took over a year for my house to be fixed after a major hurricane. Life won't get back to normal for months or years. Stay strong be smart.

But as OF said we as people need to wise up.
Andrew was the first storm of a series over last 20 years. Bigger storms more people livin on coast (i think 20 % of population is near coast.) Building houses on a spit of sand is stupid IMO. Especially if they expect the govt to rebuild it every time it is destroyed.
Ask the folks of New Orleans if they got all the help they needed after storm. If you watch the show treme on HBO you will get a feel for what next few years will be like for NJ NY. Now they want to build a dike around NYC> Well if they do that you will only get more flooding somewhere else. Water has to go somewhere.
It is time for folks to realize that the weather is changing for some reason. And it might be time to think smart on how to avoid billion dollar disasters vs ignoring mother nature. I find she wins everytime.

But we as people seem to ignore what wrath nature can bring. Look at Japan whose history noted not to build on coastal area since tsunami's had struck before. There are ancient markers designating flood areas but nucluear power plants were put next to the sea for the convenience of man. Well guess what Mother nature won. But the almighty $$ wins every time. Beach front houses bring economic development and taxes to local governments so they look the other way and take the money. Short memories are a disaster waiting to happen. Just wait till all the folks in Northeast have to buy seperate Hurricane insurance which can cost 3-6 thousand a year with a 2% deductible for each storm.

I really worry about california as one day the ring of fire will raise its head and remind us that maybe we should not be building in such disaster prone areas. THE worse senario is a storm like Sandy and an Earthquake like Japan hitting USA opposite coasts at same time.

Overall it is interesting how everyone felt New Orleans got what it deserved but NYC is now making it newsworthy of climate change. Seems that folks down south are suppose to get storms but when it happens in the northeast it is a game changer.....
 
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ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
once again politics rears it's ugly head. can we stop this. climate change deniers are just that. they also said smoking was good for pregnant women. can this not be the focus of all of this...
places you can help if you are local to the area affected
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/jtispb
Bob:

How many grams of medicine can you put in a 2.4 cart?
I started out with 0.7 g over 200 hits I added another 1.0 g and it's still going?
With the carts this PERSEI is amazing. Imagine the HERCULES?
How long is a cart suppose to last?
 

Bob Loblaw

Astralnaut
Bob:

How many grams of medicine can you put in a 2.4 cart?
I started out with 0.7 g over 200 hits I added another 1.0 g and it's still going?
With the carts this PERSEI is amazing. Imagine the HERCULES?
How long is a cart suppose to last?
there have been rumors that those who take the greatest of care w/ their carts can get anywhere from 8-16g. those people are crazy :freak: . also some here have successfully cleaned and reused carts. however, i would guesstimate that the average is 3-4. incidentally, i wouldn't add more that .6 at a time. i actually load .6 the first time and .4 after that. for flavor savoring, i find that to be really successful. loading a full gram has caused some carts to run w/difficulty. i usually get about 2.5 per cart personally. the herc is gonna last as long as the base resistor does if i understand things correctly. basically, just get the parts pack and they ?should? last forever. am loving the concept. a little over a week away!
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
there have been rumors that those who take the greatest of care w/ their carts can get anywhere from 8-16g. those people are crazy :freak: . also some here have successfully cleaned and reused carts. however, i would guesstimate that the average is 3-4. incidentally, i wouldn't add more that .6 at a time. i actually load .6 the first time and .4 after that. for flavor savoring, i find that to be really successful. loading a full gram has caused some carts to run w/difficulty. i usually get about 2.5 per cart personally. the herc is gonna last as long as the base resistor does if i understand things correctly. basically, just get the parts pack and they ?should? last forever. am loving the concept. a little over a week away!
Thanks Bob!

1.7g so far so 0.8g more.
I want to try the double barrel with the 5.0 carts.
Which wax would you try with them?
 

Bob Loblaw

Astralnaut
Thanks Bob!

1.7g so far so 0.8g more.
I want to try the double barrel with the 5.0 carts.
Which wax would you try with them?
no sweat. really depends on the voltage, but if ur going 7.4 anything in the middle works best from my experience. firmer than sap and softer than hard shatter is my motto. the rest goes to dabs. with that high voltage just get to heat and then feather for best results. noob tubes are great for dialing in ur use. basically a piece of thin tubing like an mflb stem, glass dropper, etc, in an omicron silicon mouthpiece (or clear whip tubing from ur mouth to the silicone mouthpiece on the cart (or directly on the dual mouthpiece) to your mouth so that you can really see the effect of you button hitting. all normal cart rules apply, like keep sucking while it cools to keep the tube clear, etc. i'll actually remove the mouthpiece and alternate tubes a little thru this to double check that both carts have flow. good medicating!
 
Bob Loblaw,

kindbeats

Terps Up, Temps Down
I don't mean to sound cold about the loss and temporary adverse living conditions but it does 'come with the territory'. Buy a fancy beach front house on a barrier island and you might get flooded out someday. It's not hard to figure any more than those of us who foolishly live in 'earthquake country' here might get shaken up or those who rebuild in the Mississippi flood plains who get flooded out every 30 years or so. The risk is real and has always been. Or as pointed out, those with houses in the wild woods might face the occasional wild fire.

The odd/even thing is old hat to those of us who survived 'Carter's gas shortage'. It's at most a one day delay. Folks here worked around it. Some borrowed gas, we borrowed each other's cars (with 'today's numbers) or 'borrowed a few gallons until I can get some'. People helping each other, not waiting on the Government to do it for them. IMO it was better than the longer lines with smaller purchases. I know guys who would 'top up' a few gallons 'just in case'.

No offense, but those are a couple of pretty big assumptions. First off, my house is definitely not a "fancy beach front house", it's a modest home that my parents bought almost 40 years ago and they worked hard to raise me in.

Secondly, there is currently no odd/even system in place for NY and gas is actually more scarce here at the moment than it was during the peak of the Carter administrations Oil/Gas shortage. That's a fact.

Let's not forget about the fact that I and many others on the island did not choose to live on the island, but rather were born there. What were my options exactly?

You are normally quite helpful and full of good information and of course you are free to think what you would like, but I think that sometimes it might be better not to say anything at all.

Now then, lets get back on topic in this thread.
 

OF

Well-Known Member
How long is a cart suppose to last?

I'm not Bob (we look alike, but he's the taller one) but I agree with him on both the average and record numbers.

However, I'd like to take it a bit further and give my theory of what sets that limit usually, the quality of the concentrate. Unless you press them (like run them too hot) carts seem to die a slow death of lower and lower production. I've opened up a lot of these guys and they are plugged up with deposits covering the vaping heater in an increasingly thicker layer. This 'scab' is burnt out junk that come in the oil (the part that wasn't THC). As it grows the THC can no longer freely evaporate so it tends to stay there and cook rather than get to you.

I think a useful test is to put a little bit of the concentrate on a bit of foil and heat it up with your lighter. What we want is for it to slide around and 'dance' a bit like a drop of water in a hot skillet until it's all gone. If it evaporates off cleanly it will leave few if any deposits in the cart. OTOH, those that leave deposits behind foul out quickly.

I too probably average 3 or so grams per cart. However, one of my favorites is a dark Sour Diesel oil a local Dispensary carries from time to time. And it's usually about $35 a gram when 'it's in town'. I've used a lot of it and continue to keep a cart filled with it, but experience has shown I probably won't get two full grams through the cart. I, like Bob, fill half grams at a time. The second half usually goes fine, and I load a third, but the third is usually already running slow I seldom use a fourth fill (bringing the total to 2 grams). I just factor the price (seven dollars locally) of an extra cart into the cost of use and am still happy with performance. The don't last forever, I'm OK with that and am usually happy to 'pay a few dollars' to replace a cart earlier than absolutely necessary for the luxury of not having to fight it for my vapor.

Good luck, enjoy the product, it's a good one for sure.

No offense, but those are a couple of pretty big assumptions. First off, my house is definitely not a "fancy beach front house", it's a modest home that my parents bought almost 40 years ago and they worked hard to raise me in.

Secondly, there is currently no odd/even system in place for NY and gas is actually more scarce here at the moment than it was during the peak of the Carter administrations Oil/Gas shortage. That's a fact.

I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough, I was ranting about the general case, not specific ones, certainly not ones I had no specific knowledge of. It was more in response to the 'see, we told you so' message from the Global Warming bunch.

Life (and how you live it) is a series of risks. I live in earthquake country and have in the past lived in higher crime areas. Moving 20 miles improved one but actually moved me a bit closer to the nearest fault so the other got a bit bigger in risk. Such is life. I'm saying the risk comes with the benefit. "Comes with the territory" quite literally. Folks who live in New Orleans should expect floods from time to time. Those who live in the mountains are at increased risk of fire, I live five miles from a dangerous fault. Each with it's attendant risks which I feel you should buy insurance for if you've a mind to reduce your personal risks.

Of course odd/even rationing doesn't increase supplies, the idea is to decrease problems and combat to some extent pannic buying slowing up the works for everyone. It's not some new scheme invented to further persecute poor people, but a proven useful system at a social level.

Again, I'm sorry if I somehow conveyed any criticism of anyone's individual choice of lifestyle. Not my business nor concern. I was trying to point, awkwardly it seems, to the general case to put some perspective from afar.

And I agree, this is not making vaping any better and therefore can easily be mistaken for a waste of time and bandwidth.

OF
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
I'm not Bob (we look alike, but he's the taller one) but I agree with him on both the average and record numbers.

However, I'd like to take it a bit further and give my theory of what sets that limit usually, the quality of the concentrate. Unless you press them (like run them too hot) carts seem to die a slow death of lower and lower production. I've opened up a lot of these guys and they are plugged up with deposits covering the vaping heater in an increasingly thicker layer. This 'scab' is burnt out junk that come in the oil (the part that wasn't THC). As it grows the THC can no longer freely evaporate so it tends to stay there and cook rather than get to you.

I think a useful test is to put a little bit of the concentrate on a bit of foil and heat it up with your lighter. What we want is for it to slide around and 'dance' a bit like a drop of water in a hot skillet until it's all gone. If it evaporates off cleanly it will leave few if any deposits in the cart. OTOH, those that leave deposits behind foul out quickly.

I too probably average 3 or so grams per cart. However, one of my favorites is a dark Sour Diesel oil a local Dispensary carries from time to time. And it's usually about $35 a gram when 'it's in town'. I've used a lot of it and continue to keep a cart filled with it, but experience has shown I probably won't get two full grams through the cart. I, like Bob, fill half grams at a time. The second half usually goes fine, and I load a third, but the third is usually already running slow I seldom use a fourth fill (bringing the total to 2 grams). I just factor the price (seven dollars locally) of an extra cart into the cost of use and am still happy with performance. The don't last forever, I'm OK with that and am usually happy to 'pay a few dollars' to replace a cart earlier than absolutely necessary for the luxury of not having to fight it for my vapor.

Good luck, enjoy the product, it's a good one for sure.

Thanks OF!

Having surgery today so I have my gear ready for battle!
PERSEI COMA NEEDED.
 
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