StemPod by MPL
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Bdubbdiblets
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I'm sure it's been mentioned but anyone have a good burn in method for the SP?
My mods on its way now...
My mods on its way now...
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Guys quick question, I have an evic mini with AF. Is really worth it to upgrade to a DNA? I'm more than happy to buy a good one if it's worth it, specially if it doubles the battery. And that's another question, how many stems can people with one battery mod do and how many people with 2 batteries mods? Thanks!!
Next week I should have it with me!
Next week I should have it with me!
TNT_error
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Just got this mod in called the Dagger mod by VO tech .it's been on the market for about 2 years, always wanted to try it with my rdas but never pulled the trigger. This thing is such a little beast, and is powered by the VO chipset. It's an American made chip and mod from Riverside, CA, and from what I've read on it, it's said to be on par with the dna200 chip. I have no idea what that means lol, but the mod is very responsive in tcr mode and great all around quality. It's 80w with upgradeable firmware, single battery, and customizable plates. It's around $40-60 which is a lot cheaper than a DNA mod. The VO chip is also used in a couple other mods. There's a vo200 too
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HerbieVonVapster
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I would just clean stempod body and glass maybe give it a light rubdown with paper towel little iso.
Then just screw base onto mod. Turn mod up to 60 watts. Heat up the coil for 5-10 seconds should be enough to get it hot enough to burn anything off the coil. Might want do a second time if see smell anything after first one. This also give you the chance check coil. Should see a glow and should be same brightness both sides.
Should be good to go from there.
Guys quick question, I have an evic mini with AF. Is really worth it to upgrade to a DNA? I'm more than happy to buy a good one if it's worth it, specially if it doubles the battery. And that's another question, how many stems can people with one battery mod do and how many people with 2 batteries mods? Thanks!!
Next week I should have it with me!
Was writing this as you posted I would hold off for a good deal on a DNA. You enjoy more after experiencing it on the evic. Plus has cruise for travel etc.
With the different gauges wires etc not sure if this be much help since my coils are all premade.
Haven't really decided what coil to go with. Currently running a Mad Rabbit 316L hive coil. Been fun trying the different ones out in this assortment wheel.
Guess I'm trying find one that fall in the middle resistance wise. I want to find a coil that doesn't get too red. Is good on battery and heats up holds temperature the best.
This web page explains difference resistance makes.
https://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/ashtray-blog/2015/02/voltage-watts-ohms-vapers.html#ohms
I'm using the sur_evic (SME) firmware.
Been using the stock SS TRF setting seems to be working good. Still deciding between it or using a TCR setting.
Also messing more with the curves and pid values. Surprised and pleased with overall performance of this mod. I prefer using a DNA mod at home. But for out and about the stempod/P80 SME firmware's works better for me.
Cruise is more useful than thought it be. Settings are all done on device. If I drop it hiking or leave out in the rain camping rather be out 30 buck than 100 for replacement mod. There's no perfect vaporizer but this is ideal for me and spot was looking to fill.
Value wise was excellent. Once you factor in shipping and everything you can pick up stempod and mod for under a 140.00 Personally I feel it's is good value.
Between adjustable coil's, adjustable airflow setting up mod the geek part has found hours of enjoyment and fun from the stempod. Even if just looking at it from non geek view it's a good value. Just running stock it produces great vapor. The fiddling parts just a fun option for some.
You also getting support from manufacture and other user. FC a friendly community theres a lot value in being able to get the support help if needed before or after purchase. So don't let the whole mods coil etc scare you off. Ask couple question if unsure on mods.
Personally I would look at the wismec sinuous p80 you can pick on up now for under 30 bucks. Does cruise control etc. small enough slip in your pocket. If you want the best triple the price will get you a nice DNA mod.
Best is both first get something small inexpensive like the wismec sinuous p80 the silver matches great. Use it for when out and about and traveling. Then get a nice DNA later for home use.
Worse case the stemped not for you. Haven't see that happen yet but..in that case, reselling it with mod that can run firmware that does cruise would recoup more. Honestly thou if looking for a heavy hitting convection 510 device there nothing else I feel in the this price range as good. If looking for something rugged and that's available now there really nothing else even comparable.
KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
@b0: DNA chipsets just work. You need to install escribe on a computer though... but overall it's less involved than using my_evic or ArticFox etc.
But don't underestimate the hardware part of the equation: you really need a well-built mod with top quality 510 port and components, proper wiring and soldering etc. Then the attachment 510 port quality as well as the connections with the heating element are paramount too.
If you have a dicky circuit, TC will be crappy even with high end chipsets.
Software-wise, I think AF (and possibly myevic derivatives) is on par, and even more advanced than Escribe. But you shouldn't have to configure a tons of parameters to be able to vape! And unfortunately with AF you need to. Contrasts that for instance with the SmoAnt Knight v2 (and likely later models from this manufacturer) where you just enter a TCR value and a temperature and you never ever have (nor can) tweak anything else.
DNA chipsets are great but look also at the competitors that are catching up quickly (that doesn't include Joyetech!) Many good chipsets out there now.
For the battery question, yes you should more or less double the capacity by going 2 cells vs 1.
But don't underestimate the hardware part of the equation: you really need a well-built mod with top quality 510 port and components, proper wiring and soldering etc. Then the attachment 510 port quality as well as the connections with the heating element are paramount too.
If you have a dicky circuit, TC will be crappy even with high end chipsets.
Software-wise, I think AF (and possibly myevic derivatives) is on par, and even more advanced than Escribe. But you shouldn't have to configure a tons of parameters to be able to vape! And unfortunately with AF you need to. Contrasts that for instance with the SmoAnt Knight v2 (and likely later models from this manufacturer) where you just enter a TCR value and a temperature and you never ever have (nor can) tweak anything else.
DNA chipsets are great but look also at the competitors that are catching up quickly (that doesn't include Joyetech!) Many good chipsets out there now.
For the battery question, yes you should more or less double the capacity by going 2 cells vs 1.
HerbieVonVapster
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All good points couple other things consider is DNA chips are more efficient. So a 2battery DNA250c mod will last you longer than most 2 battery non dna mods. Has replay and boost features.
Part of the reason I just snagged a DNA250c was the 97% efficiency along with replay. Well a cheap price didn't hurt either
Plus I caught MAS hehe.
Hippie
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My Clapton's nothing all that fancy m8, just a standard single core round SS wire with thinner SS round the outside.
It's either a 22 or 26 AWG 316L stainless steel core with 32 AWG SS wire wrapped round that (sorry I can't remember which - my best guess is that I used the thicker 22 centre wire as it's less springy and easier to work with than the 26)
I was hoping to make 2 vertical coils originally but there wasn't room with those big exhausts on the deck (has anyone cut them off yet?) so I trimmed down a lollipop stick to about 2mm thick and just under 5mm wide to wrap the coils round, in the same way we used to use cable ties to rebuild the old carto atomisers, in an attempt to position the hottest part of the coil over the exhausts.
The 5mm width leaves plenty of room for some really thick wire or a bigger lolly stick to wrap round in the future btw. I think I'm gonna try cutting the next one a lot wider and sanding it down to size to see exactly how far we can go above the posts.
Wrapping the coil, I only went with 6.5 wraps round the lolly stick as that's what seemed to fit best with the middle of the coil catching as much airflow as possible over the exhausts when spaced out.
I think it works OK but it's only 2nd best against my Splinter at the moment as it releases the terps in the first few draws getting up to temp so things are a bit popcorny after that (which is probably down to bad technichique). And the mod temps are a bit high for my liking. Which is all very promising for the Stempod imo as I've only done a few builds so far.
This is 26/32 super clapton is my fav wire so far
https://www.fasttech.com/products/6191905
With 5.5wrap 4mm ID loose wrap spaced vertical coils im getting better flavour throughout the bowl and a sweet looking gold hue to the coils after a few uses.
It's either a 22 or 26 AWG 316L stainless steel core with 32 AWG SS wire wrapped round that (sorry I can't remember which - my best guess is that I used the thicker 22 centre wire as it's less springy and easier to work with than the 26)
I was hoping to make 2 vertical coils originally but there wasn't room with those big exhausts on the deck (has anyone cut them off yet?) so I trimmed down a lollipop stick to about 2mm thick and just under 5mm wide to wrap the coils round, in the same way we used to use cable ties to rebuild the old carto atomisers, in an attempt to position the hottest part of the coil over the exhausts.
The 5mm width leaves plenty of room for some really thick wire or a bigger lolly stick to wrap round in the future btw. I think I'm gonna try cutting the next one a lot wider and sanding it down to size to see exactly how far we can go above the posts.
Wrapping the coil, I only went with 6.5 wraps round the lolly stick as that's what seemed to fit best with the middle of the coil catching as much airflow as possible over the exhausts when spaced out.
I think it works OK but it's only 2nd best against my Splinter at the moment as it releases the terps in the first few draws getting up to temp so things are a bit popcorny after that (which is probably down to bad technichique). And the mod temps are a bit high for my liking. Which is all very promising for the Stempod imo as I've only done a few builds so far.
This is 26/32 super clapton is my fav wire so far
https://www.fasttech.com/products/6191905
With 5.5wrap 4mm ID loose wrap spaced vertical coils im getting better flavour throughout the bowl and a sweet looking gold hue to the coils after a few uses.
Summer
Long Island, NY
Hey, guys, look at what justjustin on the VLF created:
https://forum.vapelife.com/discussion/comment/66245
https://forum.vapelife.com/discussion/comment/66245
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HerbieVonVapster
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Pictures are not working for me either.
Nice see other are finding the Wismec sinuous p80 a great little mod.
Really been enjoying mine. Sweet small mod for the money. Can't really find much to complain about on mine other than screens a little tilted. The side firing button works great with the stempod. You can see in this pic how using palm to fire it. Small enough to slip in a pocket and with the sur_myevic even have cruise. Plus I like the look of the setup. I have switched to a wooden stem and this has become my travel out and about DD setup.
HerbieVonVapster
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I had to make a account to see the pictures. Could read post but not view pics.
Wondering what's a good tcr value for the ss316 coil? I've read 285 and 215-220 from previous posts. I'm trying to get a fuller extraction.
285 was for notch coils, 215 for Clapton's. Keep in mind this is just a starting point and you should experiment with different settings, airflow, preamp to suite your preferred inhale style
HerbieVonVapster
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Depending unless find a good 250 deal shoot for a 250c. Has replay newer color screen chip. Best deal going I think is the AspenValley Vapes deal on the lost vape 250c discussed over in mod forum.
I picked up one myself, well 2 have to call cancel 2nd one tomorrow. Changed my mind from silver to black. There stock of them is moving fast. So I decided better order both and cancel than wait be stuck with the silver.
For $99 bucks falls in that $100 budget
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/w...nvection-510-vapes.25465/page-10#post-1297989
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AJS
Calm Consistency
Hey All!
Been feeling left out of all the StemPod goodness, and Dan sent me one with stupid fast shipping. Super excited to be on board again and can't wait to try out this newest production model. Should have you guys some fat cloud videos pretty soon, house to myself tomorrow so will do some testing and try to get a massive ripper. Got some good good cbd flower to work with and just picked up some regular herb I'm excited to try out. Been a while, had none for a long time and was stuck using the YoCan Plus with oil for a while. Good to be back to the full convection goodness.
Thanks Dan, you're the man!
Been feeling left out of all the StemPod goodness, and Dan sent me one with stupid fast shipping. Super excited to be on board again and can't wait to try out this newest production model. Should have you guys some fat cloud videos pretty soon, house to myself tomorrow so will do some testing and try to get a massive ripper. Got some good good cbd flower to work with and just picked up some regular herb I'm excited to try out. Been a while, had none for a long time and was stuck using the YoCan Plus with oil for a while. Good to be back to the full convection goodness.
Thanks Dan, you're the man!
AJS
Calm Consistency
Hey Guys,
Too late for me to edit, sorry for double post.
Got some time to use my StemPod! First notice, new coils from cold seem to glow a little slower than the old coils, maybe by just a second. I'm pretty sure this StemPod has the newer coils, if not maybe I'm crazy. After the first heatup though it is nearly instantaneous to glow, very very fast 0-100, as I loved in the beta. The smell of the unit itself is strong of factory (I'm sure that smell will die quick with StemPod sitting out in the open), but the flavor is pure, makes me believe it is the sleeve. I put in a blank stem and heated the vape and inhaled and tasted no flavor, this was my test. I did a few coil glows to burn off anything just in case before I did the test though.
Flavor through water was amazing, this vape does water flavor better than most, I'm not exactly sure why. Using dry, the flavor matches all my top notch flavor vapes, but flavor consistently does great through water.
Speaking of water, as soon as I decided to want to use my bubbler I decided to set up TC mode. The thought of not using TC with cruise mode through water gave anxiety, as I was just so used to it when I was initially testing. So this is the very simple method I used to find the TCR value that was usable.
I first tested how quickly 35 Watts would glow from cold, and then how quickly when repeatedly pressed. I didn't time it, I just took a mental note. I then turned the TCR value to 290 which is what it was on on the mod lent to me by Dan. Turned the temp to 400 which is probably around 35W, fairly high temp. I noticed the glow was significantly faster than the 35W test, so I lowered TCR to 250. Glow seemed to come at about the same pace as 35W.
So I lowered temp to 360 and saw a very faint glow and tried it out. Nice vapor but not intensely thick. 380 produced great vapor and flavor. 400 produced a bit thicker. I will work my way up to 440, and if a long hit at 440 can get the herb very dark without combusting, I will know I found a very accurate TCR value.
I use a phone light to tell the vapor density - if I notice the vapor is getting too dense at 440 or so, I know it's about to combust so I'll lower my TCR. If it can't get my herb dark enough at 440 with a long draw, I'll up it a bit. Only takes a few trials of this until you find one that works. Very simple. I use the high end of 440 because 446 is typically combustion temp and if you can get very dark at 440 and not combust, just means it is fairly accurate. I don't know the exact lowest temp where vapor first starts, so it's just easier to work with the higher combusting end of temps.
Overall, my first 2 bowls were great, very satisfied. Took the o-ring out within a few hits, I really like the simplicity of removing the stem without it. If I'm ever out of the house though, the o-ring stays in, it's just a much sturdier vape with the o-ring. Great vape! Very excited to have one
Too late for me to edit, sorry for double post.
Got some time to use my StemPod! First notice, new coils from cold seem to glow a little slower than the old coils, maybe by just a second. I'm pretty sure this StemPod has the newer coils, if not maybe I'm crazy. After the first heatup though it is nearly instantaneous to glow, very very fast 0-100, as I loved in the beta. The smell of the unit itself is strong of factory (I'm sure that smell will die quick with StemPod sitting out in the open), but the flavor is pure, makes me believe it is the sleeve. I put in a blank stem and heated the vape and inhaled and tasted no flavor, this was my test. I did a few coil glows to burn off anything just in case before I did the test though.
Flavor through water was amazing, this vape does water flavor better than most, I'm not exactly sure why. Using dry, the flavor matches all my top notch flavor vapes, but flavor consistently does great through water.
Speaking of water, as soon as I decided to want to use my bubbler I decided to set up TC mode. The thought of not using TC with cruise mode through water gave anxiety, as I was just so used to it when I was initially testing. So this is the very simple method I used to find the TCR value that was usable.
I first tested how quickly 35 Watts would glow from cold, and then how quickly when repeatedly pressed. I didn't time it, I just took a mental note. I then turned the TCR value to 290 which is what it was on on the mod lent to me by Dan. Turned the temp to 400 which is probably around 35W, fairly high temp. I noticed the glow was significantly faster than the 35W test, so I lowered TCR to 250. Glow seemed to come at about the same pace as 35W.
So I lowered temp to 360 and saw a very faint glow and tried it out. Nice vapor but not intensely thick. 380 produced great vapor and flavor. 400 produced a bit thicker. I will work my way up to 440, and if a long hit at 440 can get the herb very dark without combusting, I will know I found a very accurate TCR value.
I use a phone light to tell the vapor density - if I notice the vapor is getting too dense at 440 or so, I know it's about to combust so I'll lower my TCR. If it can't get my herb dark enough at 440 with a long draw, I'll up it a bit. Only takes a few trials of this until you find one that works. Very simple. I use the high end of 440 because 446 is typically combustion temp and if you can get very dark at 440 and not combust, just means it is fairly accurate. I don't know the exact lowest temp where vapor first starts, so it's just easier to work with the higher combusting end of temps.
Overall, my first 2 bowls were great, very satisfied. Took the o-ring out within a few hits, I really like the simplicity of removing the stem without it. If I'm ever out of the house though, the o-ring stays in, it's just a much sturdier vape with the o-ring. Great vape! Very excited to have one
HerbieVonVapster
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Glad to see you back. Should be able to tell coils apart by looking at the web site. Haven't tried the new coils. I been going down the mad rabbit hole instead.
I been enjoying the stempod. Even more now that my mod can run cruise. The sur_evic SME firmware really been a improvement over AF for me. The built in SS TRF setting works great and also can run TCR.
Settled in with 316L hive coil the last few days. Still need try the rest of the mad rabbit wheel.
So far 4 of the 8 mad rabbit coils have been tried. I figure it be hard to wind coil for me one handed.
Still I'm getting lot's of fun from trying out the different premade ones.
The wood boxes looks great hopefully get mine later this week. In hindsight should have bought some of the new coils from Dan to try. I also ordered a blackwood stem my stempod. It should make a sharp combo with stempod and the p80.
Still have a Clapton coil 316L 0.32 ohm mad rabbit coil that I haven't tried. It should be close to stock. Might toss it on later.
Speaking of water, as soon as I decided to want to use my bubbler I decided to set up TC mode. The thought of not using TC with cruise mode through water gave anxiety, as I was just so used to it when I was initially testing. So this is the very simple method I used to find the TCR value that was usable.
I first tested how quickly 35 Watts would glow from cold, and then how quickly when repeatedly pressed. I didn't time it, I just took a mental note. I then turned the TCR value to 290 which is what it was on on the mod lent to me by Dan. Turned the temp to 400 which is probably around 35W, fairly high temp. I noticed the glow was significantly faster than the 35W test, so I lowered TCR to 250. Glow seemed to come at about the same pace as 35W.
So I lowered temp to 360 and saw a very faint glow and tried it out. Nice vapor but not intensely thick. 380 produced great vapor and flavor. 400 produced a bit thicker. I will work my way up to 440, and if a long hit at 440 can get the herb very dark without combusting, I will know I found a very accurate TCR value.
I use a phone light to tell the vapor density - if I notice the vapor is getting too dense at 440 or so, I know it's about to combust so I'll lower my TCR. If it can't get my herb dark enough at 440 with a long draw, I'll up it a bit. Only takes a few trials of this until you find one that works. Very simple. I use the high end of 440 because 446 is typically combustion temp and if you can get very dark at 440 and not combust, just means it is fairly accurate. I don't know the exact lowest temp where vapor first starts, so it's just easier to work with the higher combusting end of temps.
Overall, my first 2 bowls were great, very satisfied. Took the o-ring out within a few hits, I really like the simplicity of removing the stem without it. If I'm ever out of the house though, the o-ring stays in, it's just a much sturdier vape with the o-ring. Great vape! Very excited to have one
With the new coils you can turn up the wattage in TC mode. I have mine my mod set max 60 watts. In TC mode run I 55watts currently. Hits 60 for brief time in preheat 0.7 seconds.
Most time stays in the 45 watt range when taking a draw with current coils.
Couldn't find the post but I thought Dan said 60 watts max in TC mode was about right with the new claptons coils?
quick MPL update:
FAQ has been added to the site and linked in the header, Looking to add to it as per user feedback so please reach out
"spare parts kit" has been added to the site, which includes a flat screen, basket screen, body screws, and build deck screws
FAQ has been added to the site and linked in the header, Looking to add to it as per user feedback so please reach out
"spare parts kit" has been added to the site, which includes a flat screen, basket screen, body screws, and build deck screws
TNT_error
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@supershredderdan will different color sleeves be made?