Dynavap VapCap
- Thread starter Fenton Mewley
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Summer
Long Island, NY
Don’t listen to them, they are dangling the carrot in front of you...
He SHOULD be listening to us. By your own words, dangling the carrot in front of him, meaning it's that good!
By his own admission:
Case Closed!
trfe
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What is that beautiful glass piece and where did you get it?A sip in the Mornin!
Will do ya.
szai
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Good catch! That's an intriguing piece of glass!
szai
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Stark why is it that you are sometimes less than lucid?Are you talking about this?
It’s a Pyrex piece I bought a while ago, haven’t seen any more since....
szai
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muunch
hotboxing the cockpit
looks like a coffee mug with a pic of a house to me
So much for that t-break, I'm experimenting with my loading for my Vapcap. I start by packing the tip full then stick a blunt sewing needle into the middle and wiggle it until it makes a channel all the way to the CCD. The reason I'm doing this is I've been finding that the outside of the herb is getting hotter than the centre and not cooking evenly. I'm hoping that the hole in middle of the herb will allow more airflow through and thus heat the whole load evenly.
So far I'm finding that the ABV is lighter than I'm expecting but it's far more consistent. Also the first hit is thick yet tastier than I'm used to for heating at the bottom with my single flame. I shall finish this bowl and note the results.
ABV results after this heat sequence: Bottom of Cap-> Middle -> Top-> Dump
Much lighter than expected, green almost. This is a strange result since I'm used to the whole load being brown by this point. It clouded up my tall tube every time and was much better in flavour than my standard load.
Repacked and hit it again with a medium heat. Still amazed with the taste, it was still there. Still cloud city. ABV: Light Golden Brown, with darker flecks. Roasted aroma, not quite spent. ~92%
I'm totally wrecked. I probably over did it a bit. I forgot to snap a pic of the ABV. =/
Summary: I totally underestimated the effect of creating the air channel down the center of the load. The whole vape changed, it is a totally different beast. The biggest differences I can note are Flavour and response to heating. The only thing I can compare it to is my Mighty set at 365*F, the flavour just goes and goes, nice and steady until the very end. More experimenting is needed tomorrow. I have to rethink my heating, there must be a cooling effect on the load from the flow down the centre.
Further thoughts: I think I'll try all medium heats with a 1 minute cool down in between next time. Perhaps there's a critical thickness of herb and size/geometry of the airhole that will create a better result yet.
So far I'm finding that the ABV is lighter than I'm expecting but it's far more consistent. Also the first hit is thick yet tastier than I'm used to for heating at the bottom with my single flame. I shall finish this bowl and note the results.
ABV results after this heat sequence: Bottom of Cap-> Middle -> Top-> Dump
Much lighter than expected, green almost. This is a strange result since I'm used to the whole load being brown by this point. It clouded up my tall tube every time and was much better in flavour than my standard load.
Repacked and hit it again with a medium heat. Still amazed with the taste, it was still there. Still cloud city. ABV: Light Golden Brown, with darker flecks. Roasted aroma, not quite spent. ~92%
I'm totally wrecked. I probably over did it a bit. I forgot to snap a pic of the ABV. =/
Summary: I totally underestimated the effect of creating the air channel down the center of the load. The whole vape changed, it is a totally different beast. The biggest differences I can note are Flavour and response to heating. The only thing I can compare it to is my Mighty set at 365*F, the flavour just goes and goes, nice and steady until the very end. More experimenting is needed tomorrow. I have to rethink my heating, there must be a cooling effect on the load from the flow down the centre.
Further thoughts: I think I'll try all medium heats with a 1 minute cool down in between next time. Perhaps there's a critical thickness of herb and size/geometry of the airhole that will create a better result yet.
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trfe
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Are you talking about this?
It’s a Pyrex piece I bought a while ago, haven’t seen any more since....
Any idea what I would even call that in a google search?
5210630772
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BARCELONA!! My city! Sorry for replying so late! Are they comming to Spannabis?
NicholasPetris
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Same here ! The LE can still get material near a dark brown (or even combust in the proper circumstances) if you give a few more heating cycles and/or go for the high temp heating techniques.
And make no mistake, friends; the 7-fin LE can hit VERY hard (huge clouds), even on the first heating. Temperature and vapor production seem to peak right near the start of the draw before quickly cooling down, which is actually amazing because the draws and overall extraction process are faster. Just beware to not inhale overzealously and cause yourself to cough up the best part of the hit! (give the vapor a little travel time to slightly cool)
@Winegums I know you're an experienced pro, and the extra airpath in the center of the chamber seems interesting, so I don't mean this with the slightest condescension but if the inner parts of your load are undercooked, maybe your material is packed a little too tightly ? The lightest packing always provides the easiest and fastest extraction, in my observations. That DOES mean using less material, which might be unfavorable. All the best
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I hope this explains what I’m aiming for. While I might be experienced with my Vapcaps, there's always more variables to change and methods to discover.@Winegums I know you're an experienced pro, and the extra airpath in the center of the chamber seems interesting, so I don't mean this with the slightest condescension but if the inner parts of your load are undercooked, maybe your material is packed a little too tightly ? The lightest packing always provides the easiest and fastest extraction, in my observations. That DOES mean using less material, which might be unfavorable. All the best
I find that it’s hard to get a light packing in the Vapcap to be consistent. Sometimes it works like you say, other times it’s too compact. The age, strain, and grind can effect how it packs considerably.
This new method throws a light packing out the window. It’s actually quite compressed in the tip so that the herb stays in the tube shape. It reminds me a lot of a hybrid rocket design where the fuel is on the walls of the tube.
I’m hoping I can get more into the tip this way while cooking it all nice and even. I’m not interested in the fastest extraction for this loading style, at least the initial testing has swayed me to develop this for flavour and cloud chasing. If I can keep the flavour going I’ll gladly take more heats over faster extraction.
Flavour has always taken such a dive after the first hit that I gave up trying to preserve it. Now though? I think I can get Four nice cycles out of the load instead of the first one being good, the next okay and the third spent.
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I did another load this morning, 3/4 full hard packed with the same diameter air hole through the centre. I did this to allow myself a bit more room in the bowl for stirring and I also underestimated how much more I can fit in there when it's hard packed.
I proceeded to do three medium heats before dumping in to my palm for inspection and noted the ABV was very consistent. The colour was solid gold or just past green, and the flavour was right there just like last night. Very consistent vapour production from bowl to bowl with a 45-60 second pause in between. I checked after each heat to make sure the air hole hadn't plugged up, it needed slight reforming on the second load but was otherwise pretty stable.
I loaded it up for one last medium heat which was the last, the material had shrunk to only 1/2 a bowl full at this point. The flavour was weak but didn't have a roasted aroma. The ABV was pretty much spent and poured freely into my hand with a small tap of the tip. It was a medium golden brown and I likely could have gotten another load out of it but I decided that it was done. I typically try not to produce dark ABV as I like to use it for infusing into fats for baking.
I'm a big fan of this way of loading the tip, it's far more pleasant than what I was doing before.
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szai
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Link?
I hope this explains what I’m aiming for. While I might be experienced with my Vapcaps, there's always more variables to change and methods to discover.
I find that it’s hard to get a light packing in the Vapcap to be consistent. Sometimes it works like you say, other times it’s too compact. The age, strain, and grind can effect how it packs considerably.
This new method throws a light packing out the window. It’s actually quite compressed in the tip so that the herb stays in the tube shape. It reminds me a lot of a hybrid rocket design where the fuel is on the walls of the tube.
I’m hoping I can get more into the tip this way while cooking it all nice and even. I’m not interested in the fastest extraction for this loading style, at least the initial testing has swayed me to develop this for flavour and cloud chasing. If I can keep the flavour going I’ll gladly take more heats over faster extraction.
Flavour has always taken such a dive after the first hit that I gave up trying to preserve it. Now though? I think I can get Four nice cycles out of the load instead of the first one being good, the next okay and the third spent.
~~~~~~~
I did another load this morning, 3/4 full hard packed with the same diameter air hole through the centre. I did this to allow myself a bit more room in the bowl for stirring and I also underestimated how much more I can fit in there when it's hard packed.
I proceeded to do three medium heats before dumping in to my palm for inspection and noted the ABV was very consistent. The colour was solid gold or just past green, and the flavour was right there just like last night. Very consistent vapour production from bowl to bowl with a 45-60 second pause in between. I checked after each heat to make sure the air hole hadn't plugged up, it needed slight reforming on the second load but was otherwise pretty stable.
I loaded it up for one last medium heat which was the last, the material had shrunk to only 1/2 a bowl full at this point. The flavour was weak but didn't have a roasted aroma. The ABV was pretty much spent and poured freely into my hand with a small tap of the tip. It was a medium golden brown and I likely could have gotten another load out of it but I decided that it was done. I typically try not to produce dark ABV as I like to use it for infusing into fats for baking.
I'm a big fan of this way of loading the tip, it's far more pleasant than what I was doing before.
Have you tried loading from a tube that's just a bit larger than the tip?
Like the one in this pic? If you haven't and don't have something the right size I'll send you some when I ship your that thing.
Btw I think I've changed my mind a little. Not gonna go with vong style body I think a hexagonal shape is much easier to spin. Maybe the new style vong is easier to keep spinning in the same spot?
I also had an idea about the carb location trench CLT. It should be a small trench that goes around the circumference. I think that's a much easier and better way to locate the hole in the dark. Because you just have to swipe down and you find the trench and then spin to the carb which is textured and easily found.
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Marlon Rando
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some people in my area still out of power from last weeks storm. my caps are loaded and ready. be safe all
NicholasPetris
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Whoo! A round of pleasant emails are about to go out to some lucky people
HALLELUJAH
My application (& audition) for a Master's degree in classical piano at McGill University was turned down, but at least I'm now part of this particular super special club !
(Hopefully I might be good enough at next year's piano audition. 
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