Mandela Effect - Am I Just High?

biohacker

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That's where critical thinking comes into play....only you can decide what you feel is the truth.

IMHO the evidence i've seen on 9/11 and chemtrails is enough to convince me. But hey, I pretty much always believe the opposite of what the government says or the masses think. But that's just me.
 

Alexis

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But that's just me.

Not just you actually bruv, we are a growing breed.:nod: Like how they are now telling us on bbc news how in the US with the Trump situation, the people are seeing the media as the enemy.
Too many people dont believe them now. And a lot of clever people too!

Some claim when when we die and leave the prison planet, dont go to the light because it is a trick- it is the electromagnetic field around the planet which is to prevent souls from escaping and wipe their memories with the shock, before recycling back into a new life in the prison.

And they say dont go to the light. And if Jesus turns up he might be a hologram to trick you.
Insist you want to go to "source", if you so wish, or so they say.

Forsure there is too much undeniable evidence both that chemtrails are real, and that 9/11 was a "government" job. Did you see the clip when they filmed the paid actors afterwards on the street, with false emphatic accounts of the plane going into the building (when rrally it flew past), which back up the onscreen holographic tech that basically disguised the missile as a plane.

Anyway, the reporters microphone is basically a subtle, but blatant model of the twin towers! Like really pushing it in our faces.

But, to look into this stuff, and be convinced it is all untrue... chemtrails not real, Bin Laden did do it.. marks a deeply asleep consciousness a long way from waling up, because there is such a dramatic mismatch to how things REALLY are, it is too much to even consider.

And this is the grand problem on this planet. The grandness and cunning and intricacy of this deception we live under- it has such a powerful hold over the asleep.
And eveh the awake, we all seem quite humbly aware thatbwe know nothing really.
Just think, if we had not been "reared" inside this fake cave, kept in the dark with fairy tales and zapped with technology, poisoned and drugged and controlled by money and survival needs.... and instead told the WHOLE truth about everyhting from day 1 in an ideal world, privy to the earth's and universes deepest known secrets...

How different would we be talking, thinking, understanding, feeling etc? Still, this reality is still real, even if an illusion, cos I experience it consciously. I dont need to go deeper than that. I will await further information :rip::lol:
So I guess I do feel alive as a "spark of comsciousness" that has entered a conscious physical life, destined for a possible infinnity of experience/existence.

Anyway Im talking shit honestly. I really dont know what to believe anymore, in terms of the fabric of the bigger picture. I simply remain open and hope for the best!
 

C No Ego

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I'm open minded, but I need to see significant scientific backing before I'll believe something that's really "out there". A lot of conspiracy theories and such are easy to "prove", but are also just as easy to disprove.


What's the source for this? I find it extremely hard to believe that our hair is an antenna. It's keratin. How is that supposed to tune into psychic frequencies? It's not rooted in our brains, or skulls, or anything. What about body hair?

appeasing/ pleasing the brain/mind is the ever present obstacle to your truth IMO... your brain witnesses a miracle and you do not see it because it does not compute or is not anything the brain has encountered through logic... your heart is the miracle making it all happen and people do not commune with their heart but rely on just knowledge alone... I'm not here to convince anyone or start cults just sharing mind blowing info for you to decide what to do with and leave it at that

moral is- get into your heart space as much as possible and watch your mind blow

edit- Heart space- after years and years of yearning/asking to myself "what does that mean".. at every moment in every situation that constant thought vibe resides in my waking consciousness to reverberate throughout my entire existence... the second I stop wondering ( how to stay in heart space) the clouds of logic hover over my uncertain mind until I clear them and realign back into my heart space... the biggest most achievable goal anyone needs to achieve.. heart space
 
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1DMF

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Trippy man! I don't think it's off topic, since this thread has kinda turned into anything "out there" for our consideration, but that depends on the OP!
Hey, I don't mind if people get inspired and it makes people think, I just wondered if you guys had heard of the effect and if you believe you have experienced it.

I'm a, don't believe anything, can't trust myself kind of guy, and as I have a mental disability, I am never 100% sure of my own memories / thoughts.

It's nice to see people opening up and talking about the greater good / higher consciousness, as it is linked, but as long as it doesn't go all 'religious', coz all that shit is also books written by those in power to control the masses, just like our science books today.

I don't know the truth about most of this, and if this 'reality' is a simulation , then none of it's 'real' anyway!

I made the post, because I came across something that seems so crazy I though I was losing the plot, as clearly you haven't all run for the hills, screaming 'burn the witch', perhaps I'm not so crazy after all?
 

DirtyD

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Don't know where to properly ask this but this thread made me think.. Do any of you good souls know if there is an H P Lovecraft thread round here? (1920s-30s horror writer) think E A Poe but better/ scarier IMHO . h p love craft- read The Shadow Out Of Time. Applies here and that is some shit where u read it and u feel like you ain't heard the whole story.... Peace! D.
 

biohacker

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Tripping balls.....on Simulation Theory....listened to the Ascend Podcast with former NASA Physicist Tom Campbell about the nature of reality, simulation, human avatars, consciousness, free will, what happens after we die..... mind blown!

Really taking an interest in all of this trippy stuff, maybe because of my cannabis break, but once I return to vaping OMG am I EVER gonna trip even more balls! :lol:

I think i've found a new hobby because this stuff really fascinates me. I have no idea how anyone could ever be "bored" in life.... I don't think i've been bored since I was a kid! lol
 

1DMF

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@biohacker Glad you enjoyed Tom Campbell, he certainly got me thinking, I have always loved Physics and the double slit experiment results are bizarre, I'm not saying I accept his hypothesis, but it sounds just as plausible as any other explanation I've heard, and much more so than anything written in the bible (not that I've read much of it!)

I've been watching a lot of flat earth videos lately, again, not saying I'm a flattard, but as I know for a fact that we are fed bullshit from the day we are born till the day we die, and you cannot trust ANYONE in power (not even going into freemasonry / Illuminati / MIB) so I am now questioning everything I have been taught, because I have found you cant trust the ones who are teaching us!
 

biohacker

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You got that right, especially all the "mainstream" news....all FAKE bullshit...politics, medicine, you name it... we live in a society where mostly every single person is blind and dumb. I can't even believe some of the shit I read, on this very forum even. Fortunately there are people like you and @Alexis that have an actual brain.

United we stand, divided we die. Which is exactly the way it's all been planned.
 

Alexis

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Hey there friend nice to see you chiming in. Bizarre how we have both kind of detached from the forum at the same time, for our own reasons. I saw you went missing and did some digging, I bet there's a few mods who are officialy off your christmas card list now, if not already!:lol:

Still, it may just have been the extra encouragement you needed to re-evaluate things and how you wish you use fc, you had already been talking about detaching a bit from the internet and and focusing on other things, so I hope the mods intervention helped you to adjust your outlook and focus for the better. I imagine a big part of you felt like saying "fuck you fc", but its good to see you still checking in, if a lot less frequently currently.

Anyway I do hope things are going good and your testing is going to happen real soon so you can relax about that at least and determine how long to extend your break and for what purpose once you have the choice.
Which is exactly the way it's all been planned.

Yeah they sure have conjured a MASTER plan since the dark ages. Man this thing is big going back in time to who knows where.

But I still attest to my belief, these power crazy fiends are still only mere mortals in a blind deluded stupor. And imbeciles at that, for all their intelligence and privilidges I think hey are pretty stupid in a lot of ways, deep down they are ignorant as fuck, and ultimately destined for faliure and unhappiness.
They dont have all the chess pieces where they would like them at all, and are in fact, quite desperate. Which is why we are seeing an escalation in false, (shadow) governent
terror attacks, especially in UK lately, and France recently also. Key places in the world picture regarding keeping control and scooping fish.

Then they drag it on in the headlines for weeks overkill, to blow it out of proportion- fire the bullet then dredge up the trauma to be relived for as long as possible.
These attacks are a sign of their desperation, and it is all pretty futile to be honest.

I believe the current push is going to be towards censoring alternative media by pretending to crack down on terrorism. Becasue they know that too many people are waking up and even a high proportion of the asleep ate beginning to have their doubts and mistrust the establishment.

So it isnt all plain sailing so lets be as hopeful as we can. I didnt even vote last night in the UK election. Was having a bad day and I couldnt give a fuck really. Let the fuckers get on with it. I am trying to let go and trust in the universes' grand plan, the force far greater than us all who these sick freaks ignorantly think they can outdo.

I believe in more after life for sure. I dont know what, but this plane is of great importance to the grand picture, and at the same time, of little importance in time to come in the great scheme.

I realise I probably have the blinkers on of course but better than being depressed as fuck.

We have to remember that the most crucial and key strategy of their master plan is to keep us all permanently weighed down with fear and dread and misery. Without this they can never win, so we have to see what little light there is and try to "raise our vibrations" as they say. :nod:

I am def going to check out the Tom Campbell though.
 

Alexis

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Okay this is exactly what I am talkong about people. It looks like Italy are suddenly leading the way the fuckong bastards (not the Italians vut the earth ruling scum):

https://www.thelocal.it/20170420/it...es-documentary-of-fake-news-on-cancer-vaccine

It looks like this is really going to be pushed through now to clamp down on internet alternative media with fines and imprisonment, with phrases like "harms the public interest!!!"

Doesnt that shit make you SICK!? I fucking hate them, I really do!:argh::argh::goon:

I cakm to this link aftr seeing in the news headlines how Italy has made child vaccinations mandatory by law for them to enroll in school, or the parents will be havily fined:

https://www.thelocal.it/20170607/it...ations-other-countries-should-follow-its-lead

This storm is really about to hot up. We need a mass rejection of this tyrrany and god I pray it comes to that. We all need to stand up and say "Fuck them!"

Australia made vaccinations compulsary last year else parents will be denied benefits. So Italy is following suit.
 

vaporist4LIFE

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This is my favorite place on here...love the open minded atmosphere ..I was heavy into flat earth about a year ago.found some very intriguing info I can relay to anyone else interested ..it's way more than just a far fetched assumption ...
I need that find the quote but....
It is very eye opening in many ways.
Quote from Rockefeller's advisor in the early 1900s when he made a huge "donation " that basically started the public school setup in usa. .
“In our dream we have limitless resources, and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hand. The present educational conventions fade from our minds; and, unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive rural folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning or of science. We are not to raise up among them authors, orators, poets, or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians. Nor will we cherish even the humbler ambition to raise up from among them lawyers, doctors, preachers, statesmen, of whom we now have ample supply."



- Rev. Frederick T. Gates, Business Advisor to John D. Rockefeller Sr.


:o
 

ghost

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I'd be interested to hear some flat earth stuffs.

While it seems absurd on the surface, I am open minded.

My big skepticism comes from the fact that every single person I have spoken to in person or online about their flat earth belief, inevitably comes back to one single person. Eric Dubay. Everyone is just quoting his videos and books, which, though I can't recall exactly where I heard it from, (a podcast, I think) are apparently just a complete rip off of some other book from like 100 years ago.

It reminds me of the reptilian thing. Every person who believes in that, their beliefs can be traced back to one single person. David Icke. Both of these guys make a TON of money on this as well.

Maybe I've just seen too much and too many scammers and hucksters in my day, and am too jaded at this point...

:shrug:
 
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biohacker

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@Alexis, you must have some psychic abilities because you pretty much nailed it. Just getting tired of some of the threads that are complete circle jerks and cliques, and i'll send you a PM shortly to explain the rest otherwise i'll probably get banned from this thread too! :lol: Great post, that sums it all well and nice to see you back too.

@KidFated. @vaporist4LIFE Nice to see you guys here and realize that not everyone hates me on this forum! :rofl: In so many ways I feel it's just a reflection of reality, the division of people, as I know so many respect and appreciate my posts, yet so many also want my head! :o And then you have the government (aka mods) controlling it all, not always making the right decisions, but striving to make the right decisions overall for the health of the forum. Free speech isn't welcome here due to the rules, which are like laws in society, which sometimes get broken without be caught, or the wrong persons are caught and the real criminals are sometimes overlooked. Or some people just have more power than others.

This thread is officially my favourite on the forum.... no circle jerking here, and actual intelligence from members that know how to read, and much open mindedness. This forum has pretty much served its purpose for me, but I keep coming back to threads like this to be in the company of like minded members.

I've always ruled out flat earth theory and never ever looked into it just assuming it was absurd, but there has been alot of hype on it lately so i'll at least entertain it for a minute.

I'm a huge fan of David Icke, I think he's brilliant, even as far fetched as the reptilian theory is, I wouldn't doubt it since we barely have scratched the surface about life. Simulation theory has really been blowing my mind lately.
 

vaporist4LIFE

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Deceiving is what they do best ! Ever heard of the word the cia/fbi made popular in a negative sense to take down these "outrageous " ideas and claims we have ?
Conspiracy theorist ;)
I will look those two people up pretty sure I haven't heard.of them before .

--didn't we once think the earth was the center of the universe ?? Assumptions just leave us thinking one thing when it could be the opposite ...imo.
 

biohacker

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Yep a conspiracy theorist is basically anyone that doesn't believe the established mainstream bullshit, and the "fake news" is what they spew to the masses on the tv news, and obedient idiots just eat it up as fact.

Everyone is programmed....and it starts in the schools being brainwashed with bullshit and how one is supposed to live their lives.
 

Alexis

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@vaporist4LIFE it is great to have you join in here with such an open mind. I feel very similar to you in my thinking and way of contemplating. Like the falt earth, I dont subscribe to it, but I dont say "nonsense" either. I just keep my mind open to all possibilities, although I do make my mind up firmly about things which I feel are practically certain.

Either way we are being deceived more than we have ever understood, and how possibly could we? This is becoming clearer and clearer to more and more people, which is why they are now going for us and our rights and freedom of speech etc.

The veil IS coming down, with large patches. I have to keep telling myself that they are not gping to win.

And you mirror my exact ways of seeing things too, esepacially in regared to the invented term "conspiracy theorist"!
I hate that term. To me it is simply "realist", but the word conspiracy theorist term is technically correct, but has implications and suggestions that destroy credence and attempt to mock and humiliate. I will keep speaking the tuth no matter what. The truth will always out eventually, I cant WAIT for the time when so many things come to light and so many ignorant assholes have to eat their hats as their brins and imaginations will crumble and break down.

Sounds a bit cruel I know, but the amount of negativity we receive from people who are mind controlled and stupid does get to me, when they are so WRONG!

I think the Donald Trump situation is very interetsing. Im not saying he is a good guy, we are so deceived even when thi gs look one way, the sheep could be a wolf!

BUT- he is going against the establishment on multiple major issues, such as vaccinations which he has condemned and looked for evidence of foul play, also the fakse charade of man made global warming and has pulled out of the Paris Climate Treaty.

And the media roast him non stop. This tells me clearly that he is definiately against the establishment. They didnt want him in power. A lot of other countires have come very close to escaping the tight clutch of elite recently but they have pulled the strings and ensured things tipped back their way woth regard to elections that took place this year in Holland, Italy and the shape of things in Germany, as well as France and that evil little fiend Macron! I can see the devil horns on that one for sure. He and George Osborne sow nothing but pure fiery evil in their eyes.

Thankfully Osborne got knocked off his perch, but has assumed editing role of the Evening Standard now to try and inflict damage from the sidelines.

Had elections not been swayed in the usual underahand fashion in Holland and Italy, both countries would surely be out of the EU now, and this would have been a major blow to their plans. It has got very close to slipping out of their hands. They are all to the deck desperately trying to keep total control, which as I keep saying is why things are stepping up so dramatically.

There was a lull for a while as they have been plotting and decidng what to do, now they have come out blazing. They arent as strong or as numerous as they seem. They ARE wounded with so much going on behind the scenes on the greater picture that we never hear about, much of which is in humanity's favour.

@biohacker I look forward to hearing a little more about your recent experiences. I just have a good intuition for reading people and situations, and I have been thinking about you and your mental state etc cos I do care about people bro and try to understand people and things, and see tbings from all angles always.

I will say though that I think the situation is maybe not quite as bad as you feel in terms of the resistance you have encountered. It probabaly seems worse, and more personal than it actually is. It only takes a single bad experience, or person to have a big effect on our emotions. Im only saying this to hopefully uplift you a bit so you can wipe the mud off your shoes and keep looking forward and using fc without any bad feelings. And like I say, it may have served you well and helped you make a few changes in your way of seeing things and using fc, for the better, that you otherwise moght not have done so soon, as we are creatures of habit.

Big love to everybody out there who is fair, and nice, and reasonable and even better if open minded and awake!:tup:

Edit @ghost i forgot to tag you also when above. The reptilian thing I do actuallt subscibe to. I have never listened much to David Icke, but there is another very interesting man named Simon Parkes who is very frothcoming ablut reprilians and all alien culture and behind scenes historical details abput humanity and the stars and universe etc.

He speaks put with inside info on all things on the world stage on a radio show that goes on Youtube called "connecting consciousness".
 
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vaporist4LIFE

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Gotta stay positive !! Sometimes I get down thinking about this side of things...love will always win one way or another ...
The earth will be here long after we are...

--- Alexis did you say false charade man made global warming ?? Don't tell you me you don't believe in GW? Scratches head....
 

Alexis

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Gotta stay positive !! Sometimes I get down thinking about this side of things...love will always win one way or another ...
The earth will be here long after we are...

--- Alexis did you say false charade man made global warming ?? Don't tell you me you don't believe in GW? Scratches head....
Well, accordong to Simon Parkes and others, gloabal warming is due to the changing of frequency of light from our star, the sun, which is heating up the whole solar system as part of the process of evolution and ascension, which is also driving the awakening of humanity.

And this is basically what the entire charade is about- they are futilely trying to slow this down to keep us all asleep, and this makes perfect sense to me, that they spend decades deceiving us that WE are causing glabal warming, that it is a bad thing, and they must act to prevent it.

This is the fundamantal purpose of chemtrailing nowdays, by spraying tons and tons of aluminium particles into the atmosphere that reflect certain frequencies of light from the sun to slow the process down.
As with everything, I keep my mind open. I am prepared to belive almost anything, to the point of being gullible I have to admit, but this concept sits very well with me and is not too far fetched at all I dont think.
 

biohacker

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@Alexis i'm doing better than ever! :D I just don't have much use for this forum as in the past, as i'm actually getting back to my roots with other hobbies that are much better and healthier for my mental and physical health! This forum just isn't what it used to be from yesteryear, and we all should be around like-minded people, which for the most part I don't find here, with the exception of some fine gentlemen such as yourself! I just don't see eye to eye with the many obedient idiots, so am simply moving on to better things in life, instead of wasting my energy trying here.

@vaporist4LIFE I think what @Alexis is saying is that man has very little impact overall on the global warming trend, which has occurred naturally in the past, just as cooling periods. Surely our carbon footprints do not help the environment, but the blame that has been put on us isn't credible.

The earth is getting so polluted that even formerly pristine areas are now simply disgusting. We are nothing but mold growing on this rock.
 
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Alexis

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@Alexis i'm doing better than ever! :D I just don't have much use for this forum as in the past, as i'm actually getting back to my roots with other hobbies that are much better and healthier for my mental and physical health! This forum just isn't what it used to be from yesteryear, and we all should be around like-minded people, which for the most part I don't find here, with the exception of some fine gentlemen such as yourself! I just don't see eye to eye with the many obedient idiots, so am simply moving on to better things in life, instead of wasting my energy trying here.
I thin that is actually the right thing for you to be doing bro, and the "universe" as they say, has opened doors for you by making use of insensitve arrogant souls, so you can be thankful to them for that ;).

I do also feel that the mods in question did actaully mean to do the right thing. Everybody has a diiferent viewpoint and understanding, often what is called for is just a little more sensitivity all round so that even when we disagree, it can be done harmoniously.

Im not referencing this towards you or any of your own actions, just a general feeling about many similar situations.
That is awsome that you are doing good. You are going to come out of this break so much better than you have been in years I feel, well done man keep going!:tup:
 
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