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Mandela Effect - Am I Just High?

Discussion in 'The Vapor Lounge' started by 1DMF, Apr 18, 2017.

  1. 1DMF

    1DMF Old School Cheesy Quaver

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    I don' t know if you have heard of the mandela effect?

    It's a phenomenon that is being attributed to CERN and the use of a quantum computer that is causing alternate dimensions to merge and change history.

    If you like quantum mechanics , then you know the doubke slit experiment and the measurement priciple, and the many worlds interpretation.

    Even the guy who created DWave the quantum computer states is utilises parrallel universes.

    So is this effect real or am I seriousky wasted?

    Because I went to the cinema and saw Moonraker and the blond bird had train track braces, that was part of the ponit with jaws.

    Now the braces have gone apoarently.

    Have i lost the plot?
     
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  2. Krazy

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    1DMF:

    This is the third time you have started this thread; it keeps disappearing.
     
  3. 1DMF

    1DMF Old School Cheesy Quaver

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    Dunno, was editing it, might have caused a glitch
     
  4. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    Woah! :whoa:

    Tripping me out! :freak:

    You know anything about this @Alexis ?

    :rofl::lmao:
     
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  5. just_the_flu

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    ... I think there's something to this...


    ... I've thought maybe under psychedelic effects or higher states of mind it's possible to travel to alternative universes and you get stuck (like Rick and morty in a sense)....

    ... I've also heard of this effect only effecting people who have had near death experiences (and/or died and came back)...

    or maybe when you die you finish out your experience in another reality (hence false memories)...


    really is trippy shit when you think about it.....
     
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  6. biohacker

    biohacker Fucking Combustion Since 2006

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    :popcorn: Love this shit! Multiverse....cern....big bang.....I don't even need to be high to enjoy this!
     
  7. muunch

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    I had some crazy perceptions that seemed to cause my reality to alter once, even when completely sober. I didn't vape as much back then, but 1 trench from my MFLB would get me a really crazy, psychedelic type high too and amplify this weird mindstate. I don't know how to explain it, but it's like time was moving slower and I could predict what was going to happen (and would) and then moments later, it would play out EXACTLY as I imagined. It was insane. This went on for maybe a month.

    I was IVing a dissociative research chemical daily - which definitely caused it, but I would black out for the duration of the high because I was IVing it, and in such large amounts.

    All of this stuff was happening after I would sleep it off and stuff... so I wasn't directly under the influence of it... it may be some of the metabolites or whatever from the drug. I really have no idea.

    Don't think this fits as much directly as I had initially hoped but I did get a reminder of this time in my life when you talked about noticing something that was there before and is no longer there.
     
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  8. TeeJay1952

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    I thought i was getting old and confused between reality and books and movies and things in the past getting all mixed up in my head. Now it turns out I may be an Interdimensional Traveler. Way cool!:rockon::myday:
     
  9. 1DMF

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    by choice would be cool!

    However, if CERN is fucking with my reality without my knowledge or permission, not so cool!

    There is a lot of weird shit on YouTube about this and far too many 'neigh-sayers' and 4-horsemen of the apocalypse type conspiracy theories, so finding the truth isn't easy.

    One You-Tuber claims that a 3rd world war is about to start and those in charge are going to pretend aliens have come to save us, but really they are fallen angels (demons) from the abys that has been opened by CERN.

    As an agnostic, who believe we went to the moon and rockets work in the vacuum of space due to Newton's laws, I find some of these claims to be far too way out there, but as quantum mechanics says anything is possible and it's all happening at the same time, fucked if I know the truth about this so called illusion of reality.

    If I really am a conscious entity who chose to inhabit an avatar in this simulation we call the 'Big Bang' universe, where the fuck is the 'stop, I want to get off' button?
     
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  10. biohacker

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    :rofl:When you find it, please let me know! I'm an agnostic myself, but more on the athiest side.

    World War 3 may be imminent, but world war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones apparently.

    Atlantis is some pretty cool shit too. And Deja Vu is a trip in itself.
     
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  11. Farid

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    I have a condition which causes me to have deja vu regularly. Often what triggers the deja vu is a false memory - something will remind me of a memory, and I will convince myself I am re experiencing something I experienced before. In reality, the memory that was triggered isn't a real memory, and my mind has convinced itself it is because it feels so real.

    I think the mandela effect is just that, and any further explanation that borders on conspiracy territory is just silly. Alternate universes is a much more complicated way of explaining a phenomena where people develop collective false memories. In the case of the Berenstain Bears, we all were taught the incorrect pronunciation, so we all remember it wrong. If everybody were to all of a sudden learn of this, and people corrected themselves and started calling them the BerenstAIN bears instead of the Berenstein bears, the Mandela effect would no longer apply.

    I don't see why any further explanation is nessisary.

    The idea that deja vu is more than just mind games is what has led to temporal lobe epileptics being seen as prophets, madmen, witches, and religious gurus. I think a great example of how temporal lobe epilepsy is viewed by society is in the debates between Jerry Lettvin and Tim Leary. I disagree with both. Lettvin approaches LSD from the position of a scientist and religious person. He is suspect of LSD and claims it causes temporal lobe epilepsy. Leary on the other hand claims that LSD has the ability to make people into "spiritual mystics".

    Both are ignoring the real facts about TLE to fit their narrative. Leary connects dots to believe that these people are gurus of some kind.. Lettvin on the other hand believes LSD has caused the TLE. Both are probably wrong. One opinion holds LSD/TLE in a totally negative light (Lettvin), and the other holds it in a totally positive light (Leary). Both are validating this belief with their own bias.

    I'm sort of going on a tangent, so it's kind of hard to connect back to the subject. What I was trying to get at, is that you need a healthy dose of skepticism as well as some faith. But put too much of either and you'll be in conspiracy territory. I think both Leary and Lettvin are in that conspiratorial territory in this debate, but on opposite sides.
     
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  12. TeeJay1952

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    Click to play YouTube Video
     
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  13. biohacker

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    Ayahuasca is pretty trippy too. I'd drink the koolaid, even though i'd just throw it right up!

    If you know Wim Hof, learning his technique can produce some surreal events/emotions as well.
     
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  14. 1DMF

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    @TeeJay1952 Nice tune, but the sentiment would mean we would all still be swinging in trees.

    Isn't asking 'Why?' what separates us from the other animals?

    Or perhaps it's just me, coz I was the type of kid that just had to lick the 9volt battery to see what would happen!

    Thomas Campbell has some wild ideas about reality and consciousness, and he's a respected NASA physicist, so it's not just Elon Musk and conspiracy theorists, though I do believe in the 'Chem-Trail' conspiracy, but that's something different altogether!

    Time to fire up the SOLO and D020-K, I need to chill, coz this shit is mind blowing!
     
  15. biohacker

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    I thought it was gross neglect for one another and mother earth? Oh, and obesity.

    I don't think it's a conspiracy at all.... and they are really ramping up here where I live. Shall I mention HAARP? :tup:

    David Icke? Oh the Illuminati! Where are you @Alexis ?? :D
     
  16. Krazy

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    Either you didn't get that, given the topic matter, the above was a joke... or you out ninja'd me on multiverse humor.


    "I" am a large, multi system, MPD person so this stuff makes perfect sence to me, lol.
     
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  17. TeeJay1952

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    @1DMF My brother has a degree in Philosophy. He sold paint for a living.
    Since the dawn of time the discourse over Gnostic (godhead speaks to us) vs Agnostic(deterministic universe) . Some look about and say "Where are the miracles?" others "Look, It is all a miracle!" POV and all the wars ever since.:rockon::myday:
     
  18. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    Interesting and thought provoking thread folks. I really dont feel even remotely intelligent enough to pretend to have any real idea about any of this.
    In my current condition my brain function and intellect is so heavily supressed.

    So I shant try and engage really. I do actually keep things simple and stick to what I can work with with more confidence.
    I am a self confessed "conspiracy theorist", except I dont see it like that. It is not for fun and games sake.

    I am simply a "realist", and we are being so heavily duped, deceived, manipulated and controlled in ways, and on levels that most could not contemplate.

    Chemtrails are so very very real. It has actually been admitted now publically, except we still dont actually hear about this through the mainstream bullshit news channels. Just like all the countries now legalising cannabis, which I only hear about on fc at the moment! (Bad example, but I mean it is just pot luck what real news reaches us, and who and how.)

    They have so many dark and serious projects going on beyond the public's wildest imagination. Cern being one if them, alledgedly to do with portals to other dimensions, from which ET's come and go.
    I certainly am willing to believe in other dimensions, I think it would be very ignorant not to be.

    We are like ants on the ground, whose knowledge and awareness of worldly matters is like ours of the greater universe. I do feel it is ignorant of man to assume he can ever truly understand life and existence, from a scientific, rational point of view.
    While in this mortal life anyway. We are not god, this is just my own personal "bow out" stance though to make for an easier life.
    I like to be more philisophical about things. I feel greater wisdom and "answers" can be discovered this way,,without tussling with the impossible.

    And there is so much "disinfo", with mind boggling concepts especially on youtube, amidst much truth, so it is always hard to know what to take seriously. We have to be very dis"CERN"ing!

    See, I told you I just dont have the intellingence to even engage credibly with these matters in my current mindset. Maybe some time when my brain is up and running.

    Felt I should add something in response to your tags @biohacker, considering I am always going into this shit when we are supposed to be discussing vapes!
    Think Im just mentally flat right now though.
    I did start replying to you in pm earlier actually, but the day has been very disruptive and busy and my self esteem has taken a nose dive as I realise I am just a foolish mortal who knows nothing ultimately, a sort of "ego death".
    So I may finish your pm tommorrow. Got to let of everything right now, but all good!:)
     
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  19. 1DMF

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    @Krazy sorry, missed that completely, as I was using my phablet and had to make many edits, I thought something had gone funky, so you got me , good an proper like :clap:

    @biohacker I know they are real, I've taken my own video August 2016

    http://dance-music.org/Chem-Trails-Aug2016.mp4

    The sky was a clear blue, lovely August summer day, then a bunch of planes criss-cross the sky emitting a trail and it clouds over with a hazy fog.

    Who knows what the hell they are doing to the weather with this shit let alone HAARP!

    @Alexis don't get me started on corrupt, bullshit media, I have just quit my job after 14 years, having been subjected to bullying, discrimination and threatened to take part in criminal activities, such as hack the regulators website or falsify data for regulatory reporting.

    I quit, and blew the whistle, the courts fucked me, the solicitors fucked me, the regulators fucked me and do nothing, the press said they would assist in exposing these financial services criminals and they did nothing but lie to me.

    The whistle-blowing agencies are fake, the regulators are fake, the law is fake, the media is fake and the criminals carry on without any penalty while me and my family suffer and even my letter to MoneySavingExpert and the government have fallen on deaf ears, crikey I even contacted Aljazeera, to see if I could escape the media in this country, but I got no reply, even Wiki-Leaks have ignored me!

    I know 100% for a fact, first hand, ( I have video / audio evidence to prove it!) it's all bullshit, I've lost my job, my career in financial services is over, I wasn't even paid what I'm entitled to by statutory law, I'm thousands in debt for legal fees and all the so called regulators and governing bodies are a bunch of lying, criminal scumbags, who aide and abet criminals in financial services and do nothing when over a decade of crime and illegal activities is brought to their attention.

    Man this shit makes me so angry, I'm just glad I found this place and a decent vape to get me through the day :tup:
     
  20. Alexis

    Alexis Open minded philosopher and realist.

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    Very sorry for your troubles in life against the system friend! I sympathize and understand. I can empathize with the ENORMOUS sense of frustration and outrage I am sure you feel.
    You havd gone sword to sword with them. I have been very ill with Lyme Disease for 12 years, and I have acqured a great education of how they are destroying lives by creatimg sickness and preventing and suppressing cures, denying acknowledgement and diagnosis.

    And the rest!!
    Totally with you on the undoubted reality of chemtrailing. Seriously, there is no question it has run wordlwide for decades at least. It really frustrates me that the sheep still angrily insisst the notion is pure madness and that we are "conspiracy theorists"!
    I hate that term. We are just "awake"!

    Here are a few pics of chemtrails and "haarp" from last May, 2016.
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    Zoom in on the haarp EMF ripples. On this day, I had never seen anything so "unnatural". The photos dont do it justice, but if anybody had seen that in person, and thought that it was normal, they would not have half a wit in their head!

    Lots of folk that way though sadly.
    There is a British ex MP called Simon Parkes, claimingly born into the illuminati, but revoked thier evil agneda to help humanity instead.
    He puts out info about the real behind the scenes action on the world stage, which is a total contrast to the propaganda media. It is always very interesting and revealing.

    Whethere he is totally genuine or not, it is always bang in line with how I know things to be going.
    He does a a hour alternative radio show which goes on youtube twicd a month. This week, he gives a fascinating excplanation of what chemtrailing is really, ultimately about now.

    He says ot is to do with the changing frequency of light coming from our sun, which is the driving force of evolution of humanity and "ascension" of planet eartth and the entire solar system into a different dimension.

    He claims that the aluminium sprayed into the atmosphere is to reflect certain frequencies of light coming from the sun, to slow down this inevitable evolution.

    They cannot prevent it, whoever is really running things on this prison planet, but are desperate to maintain their clutch as long as possible.
    Here is a link to the radio podacst:
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    Go to minute 15:50. He talks for just a few minutes about chemtrailing. Well worth a listen.

    Stay as positive as you can my friend. I do actually believe the entire financial system will crash sooner or later and be reset, wiping debt.

    I also dont believe we are headed for another world war. There is so much doom and gloom fearmongering on the net, and youtube, intended to depress us and get us all down, in fear.

    None worse than the christians. Not trying to offend any religious people, but they have been putting up these terrifying videos for decades with dramatic music that try to take you to hell!

    But it will be okay if you justbfollow the bible and declare Jesus as your saviour!
    I just done like the way they fearmonger!
    Let's try and havs some optimism. We aren't in control of the future singlehandedly, so just take each day at a time, and try to find some peace!
     
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  21. 1DMF

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    Wow, those ripples, didn't realise that was HAARP frequency oscillation patterns.

    I also am not looking to the bible, torah, quran, [insert scripture here] or any organised religion for saviour, though science has yet to disprove the existence of god the same way as god has yet to disprove science!

    So you have to step back, analyse and make your own mind up, and then make your peace with our maker when the time comes.

    No matter whether you believe in religion, science, quantum mechanics or the conspiracy brigade, they all claim this shit aint real and something (sentient consciousness), created it , even if you believe mainstream science and the 'simulation hypothesis', or Thomas Campbell's 'Big TOE'.

    Though if you are truly religious then you have to believe the world is flat and there is a firmament dome stopping man from reaching the moon or leaving earth's atmosphere and going into space?

    Flat earth anyone?
     
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    Mandela effect is said to be false memories as someone else said earlier on in this thread. I am not sure what I believe. On the one had I believe it. On the other I don't know. Do so many people have the same false memories that they believe is true?

    For example we all remember it as "sex and the city" right? But the name of the show is actually sex in the city.

    Does anyone remember a movie where sin bad played a genie? Doesn't exist anymore in our time line. Rather it's replaced with a movie called Shazam with Shaq.

    Or how bout the fact that "Luke I am your father is never actually said by Darth Vader. Yup. Watch the movie. He doesn't say it
     
  23. Krazy

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    No, it is a giant tortoise shell.
     
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  24. 1DMF

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    Fool me once 'shame on you', fool me twice......'I must be hammered!' :evil:
     
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  25. biohacker

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    Quantum Entanglement anyone? A new friend (member on this forum that isn't really active) introduced me to this trippy concept yesterday! Blew my mind.... we are all connected... reminds me of Dr Bruce Lipton and his epigenetics science, super fascinating shit. He mentions things like there is a reason why you think of someone and your phone rings and it's them..... we are all one, one love even though the elites want us to fight against one another, and they are succeeding. I dream for a life to be around people that aren't ignorant sheep, and have woken up, much like the presence of you intelligent folks. I feel like i've been born at the wrong time or something. Or at least on the wrong planet! Earth surely is a prison planet, for the 99% anyway.

    'Quantum Entanglement' Is Real: Experiment Shows Universe Is 'Spooky' Proving Einstein Wrong. ... The researchers claim to have found the validity of Bell's inequality, that particles are entangled and always connected in a way that they can affect one another regardless of the distance.
     
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