Discontinued Zion vaporizer
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Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Yup, it reopened at the new pricing level.
PRICELESS!!!!!
Anyone with a zion and a nano that can compare the screen sizes? Trying to determine whether I need them or not
Just preordered. Anyone got an estimate on shipping? Not to derail this thread
Nano screens probably won't work, the stems here are a bit wider than Nano stems, and the screens a fully custom (but you may get extras if that tier is reached for the giveaway...)
And since you just ordered, expect a few months wait, just sit back and relax
killick
But I like it!
@VegNVape I should have warned you - it's been Gordons Wine Bar for yonks, but they have some of the best port in the Yew Kay in those kegs behind the bartender! I killed a lot of brain cells there when I worked in Traf Square, back in the daze 
Worst case scenario there's always The Coal Hole in the Savoy, when it's not full of investment wankers. There was another pub, towards Whitehall, The Star and Garter IIRC, but they did a big renovation and it now looks like every other Irish pub that isn't actually in Ireland...
So just this morning I was wondering how many loads I'm getting per battery, and a bunch of other stuff like load size, if any strains seem different, etc. I'm normally pretty good about rememberering stuff like that, but it's kinda blurry these days. The only way I'll be able to tell is if I'm careful at writing down every time I have a session, and track from there. So it's quite unlikely to happen. But from a 'delivers meds' standpoint it's certainly enjoyable. If I could change anything I'd *still* be looking for a full-face helmet mod, sort of a portable hotbox if you will. Or maybe a larger glass bowl/heater interface, but then you'd need to replace the stir tool with a loading shovel, and you could tell the Zion owners by the happy smiles.
Worst case scenario there's always The Coal Hole in the Savoy, when it's not full of investment wankers. There was another pub, towards Whitehall, The Star and Garter IIRC, but they did a big renovation and it now looks like every other Irish pub that isn't actually in Ireland... So just this morning I was wondering how many loads I'm getting per battery, and a bunch of other stuff like load size, if any strains seem different, etc. I'm normally pretty good about rememberering stuff like that, but it's kinda blurry these days. The only way I'll be able to tell is if I'm careful at writing down every time I have a session, and track from there. So it's quite unlikely to happen. But from a 'delivers meds' standpoint it's certainly enjoyable. If I could change anything I'd *still* be looking for a full-face helmet mod, sort of a portable hotbox if you will. Or maybe a larger glass bowl/heater interface, but then you'd need to replace the stir tool with a loading shovel, and you could tell the Zion owners by the happy smiles.
TeeJay1952
Well-Known Member
Soon we will be counting the daze instead of counting the days.
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
A buddy tried my Zions last night during a Triifest (3 of us completed our Daisy/Lily collections, so there were six...) for the first time with the new heaters and declared it as the only truly impressive battery powered vape he's used, and he's used nearly all of mine (owns an EQ that's never used and an Elevape too), it was Daisy that finally got him to fuckcombustion effectively, hence his new Lily, but he referred to the Zion as a very thoughtfully made device. My other friend likes to call it the electric Daisy...
Due to cost, size, and simplicity though, theyre both likely to be single battery unit owners in the near future... Perhaps full Zion some day
Due to cost, size, and simplicity though, theyre both likely to be single battery unit owners in the near future... Perhaps full Zion some day
fluffhead
Recovering Idealist
Twitter picture update - https://twitter.com/RastaBuddhaTao/status/695585175778910208
I assume this means that some people who are awaiting tracking info should be getting it soon!
Questions for current Zion users:
I assume this means that some people who are awaiting tracking info should be getting it soon!
Questions for current Zion users:
- How many batteries do you have dedicated to the Zion?
- How many bowls do you vape per day in the Zion?
- What other vapes do you still use since getting the Zion that pair well with it?
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
I have too many extra batts as a beta bonus, so I'll skip that one for now (I had just two pairs originally with one Zion, and that is plenty, you're almost never down and out even with fairly heavy useage)
Bowls depends on the day, if I'm doing daytime medicating probably 2 bowls, maybe 1 or maybe 3 though, then at night 3 or 4 maybe depending on when I fall asleep, maybe more actually... Counting is hard and I take hits pretty leisurely while watching TV, not necessarily back to back so sessions are dragged out when alone. With someone else it can different, or surprisingly similar depending on the situation. This is all rough estimates btw, it could very well be more some days (weekend who the hell knows
) or even less perhaps.Finally as for other vapes, absolutely Triihouse! So glad I got a Daisy to go with my Lily now, needs some breaking in, it is more involved than Zion but technically quicker from cold, it wouldn't so good for TV watching use having to look down at the flame (especially bc I have to take off my glasses), but I've done it with my buddy and I've used my Lily that way dry and through water, even amidst Zioning sometimes
I'm also having a curvy exotic HIbrid glass core Heat Island being made by @Alan right now, so that should offer a very unqiue experience from Zion as well, another excellent handcrafted wooden vape from a real purist!
VapCap is another new one that offers a unique signature that can compliment Zion at a very low price, ofcourse it is not as much of a heavy hitter in my experience, but it is also very versatile and I've only used a beta TiWoody so far. Hope to try the new woody, TiGlassy, GonGs, and plain glass soon too
Other great options (albeit less used by me now) include the Elevape and Firefly, kind of the fancy tech convection counter part, neat to experience and very effective but not quite as mind blowing as the more raw manual vapes in my experience. They both have phenomenal flavor though, ESV is super stealth and smooth, FF is pure class and fun. Zion has them mostly inactive for me now though
In my testing I've also found the upcoming MistVape to be a pretty nice counterpart a atually with its own unique strong signature, like a little wooden desktop that has a battery pack, works kinda like a log but pretty different. Like temp controlled sessions with Underdog stems in a Firefly bowl in use essentially.
Also probably have to mention the Cloud Evo though I just sold mine bc it was seeing next to no use with Zion around, super simple reliable tasty milk through glass though, another unique experience for sure... As would be an Herbalizer I imagine (maaaaaybe Volcano if you like bags for some reason, but Herbie can do em too)
Oh and Grasshopper must be mentioned as well, I have a stainless steel and a blue Ti coming soon too, talk about super stealth and super simple, seemingly very effective and efficient despite its various issues. (Also upcoming Indica i2 and o2?...Firefly2?!)
Ultimately the Zion is my flagship though, daily driver, go to, default, whatever you want to call it for me it is my ideal right now and sees by far the most use though I don't plan to sell all of these others either (but some I have)
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thekarmawhore
Well-Known Member
1. 6, but 4 would totally suffice (lone user)
2. 6-10
3. Vapcap has been my favorite Zion companion so far.
fluffhead
Recovering Idealist
I have two many extra batts as a beta bonus, so I'll skip that one for now (I had just two pairs originally with one Zion, and that is plenty, you're almost never down and out even with fairly heavy useage)
Bowls depends on the day, if I'm doing daytime medicating probably 2 bowls, maybe 1 or maybe 3 though, then at night 3 or 4 maybe depending on when I fall asleep, maybe more actually... Counting is hard and I take hits pretty leisurely while watching TV, not necessarily back to back so sessions are dragged out when alone. With someone else it can different, or surprisingly similar depending on the situation. This is all rough estimates btw, it could very well be more some days (weekend who the hell knows
Finally as for other vapes, absolutely Triihouse! So glad I got a Daisy to go with my Lily now, needs some breaking in, it is more involved than Zion but technically quicker from cold, it wouldn't so good for TV watching use having to look down at the flame (especially bc I have to take off my glasses), but I've done it with my buddy and I've used my Lily that way dry and through water, even amidst Zioning sometimes
I'm also having a curvy exotic HIbrid glass core Heat Island being made by @Alan right now, so that should offer a very unqiue experience from Zion as well, another excellent handcrafted wooden vape from a real purist!
VapCap is another new one that offers a unique signature that can compliment Zion at a very low price, ofcourse it is not as much of a heavy hitter in my experience, but it is also very versatile and I've only used a beta TiWoody so far. Hope to try the new woody, TiGlassy, GonGs, and plain glass soon too
Other great options (albeit less used by me now) include the Elevape and Firefly, kind of the fancy tech convection counter part, neat to experience and very effective but not quite as mind blowing as the more raw manual vapes in my experience. They both have phenomenal flavor though, ESV is super stealth and smooth, FF is pure class and fun. Zion has them mostly inactive for me now though
In my testing I've also found the upcoming MistVape to be a pretty nice counterpart a atually with its own unique strong signature, like a little wooden desktop that has a battery pack, works kinda like a log but pretty different.
Also probably have to mention the Cloud Evo though I just sold mine bc it was seeing next to no use with Zion around, super simple reliable tasty milk through glass though, another unique experience for sure... As would be an Herbalizer I imagine (maaaaaybe Volcano if you like bags for some reason, but Herbie can do em too)
Oh and Grasshopper must be mentioned as well, I have a stainless steel and a blue Ti coming soon too, talk about super stealth and super simple, seemingly very effective and efficient despite its various issues. (Also upcoming Indica i2 and o2?...)
Ultimately the Zion is my flagship though, daily driver, go to, default, whatever you want to call it for me it is my ideal right now and sees by far the most use though I don't plan to sell all of these others either (but some I have)
Thanks for the replies. Holy @Shit Snacks!
That's a great and thorough answer. There were even a few things that I didn't ask that you answered for me which will help me. 
For example, it is good to know which vapes "lose" to the Zion in your experience. It is interesting that you both said the vapcap. That isn't one that I had been interested in, but I will read the thread a bit and check it out.
Shannock
Well-Known Member
I have two many extra batts as a beta bonus, so I'll skip that one for now (I had just two pairs originally with one Zion, and that is plenty, you're almost never down and out even with fairly heavy useage)
Bowls depends on the day, if I'm doing daytime medicating probably 2 bowls, maybe 1 or maybe 3 though, then at night 3 or 4 maybe depending on when I fall asleep, maybe more actually... Counting is hard and I take hits pretty leisurely while watching TV, not necessarily back to back so sessions are dragged out when alone. With someone else it can different, or surprisingly similar depending on the situation. This is all rough estimates btw, it could very well be more some days (weekend who the hell knows
Finally as for other vapes, absolutely Triihouse! So glad I got a Daisy to go with my Lily now, needs some breaking in, it is more involved than Zion but technically quicker from cold, it wouldn't so good for TV watching use having to look down at the flame (especially bc I have to take off my glasses), but I've done it with my buddy and I've used my Lily that way dry and through water, even amidst Zioning sometimes
I'm also having a curvy exotic HIbrid glass core Heat Island being made by @Alan right now, so that should offer a very unqiue experience from Zion as well, another excellent handcrafted wooden vape from a real purist!
VapCap is another new one that offers a unique signature that can compliment Zion at a very low price, ofcourse it is not as much of a heavy hitter in my experience, but it is also very versatile and I've only used a beta TiWoody so far. Hope to try the new woody, TiGlassy, GonGs, and plain glass soon too
Other great options (albeit less used by me now) include the Elevape and Firefly, kind of the fancy tech convection counter part, neat to experience and very effective but not quite as mind blowing as the more raw manual vapes in my experience. They both have phenomenal flavor though, ESV is super stealth and smooth, FF is pure class and fun. Zion has them mostly inactive for me now though
In my testing I've also found the upcoming MistVape to be a pretty nice counterpart a atually with its own unique strong signature, like a little wooden desktop that has a battery pack, works kinda like a log but pretty different.
Also probably have to mention the Cloud Evo though I just sold mine bc it was seeing next to no use with Zion around, super simple reliable tasty milk through glass though, another unique experience for sure... As would be an Herbalizer I imagine (maaaaaybe Volcano if you like bags for some reason, but Herbie can do em too)
Oh and Grasshopper must be mentioned as well, I have a stainless steel and a blue Ti coming soon too, talk about super stealth and super simple, seemingly very effective and efficient despite its various issues. (Also upcoming Indica i2 and o2?...)
Ultimately the Zion is my flagship though, daily driver, go to, default, whatever you want to call it for me it is my ideal right now and sees by far the most use though I don't plan to sell all of these others either (but some I have)
Wow and Wow again! Is there anything that you've always wanted to try but never have?
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Wow and Wow again! Is there anything that you've always wanted to try but never have?
Aside from those upcoming ones I mentioned, definitely Lotus and VapMan (i don't think I'd be very good at that style of torch heating though, but I do have a custom 18mm gn0me coming in a trade, more excited to use it Daisy style)
Plus the aforementioned Herbalizer, and similarly halogen the Venus, but I'll likely end up trying his upcoming Apollo and/or Helios.
Also E-Nano and steel core HI... HerbalAire a bit, and the new Vapolution3... Just to cover convection bases maaaybe Firewood and oh yeah MiniVap... Perhaps VersaInfinity as well?!
Mighty too (maybe Prima and MiVape too) just out of sheer curiousity though session style vapes that constantly cook the herb are of little interest to me anymore, regardless of power, in these on demand pure convection days...
Oooooh and the Thermovape Cera too!!! As their T1 one was my first vape of course
HD Springer
Well-Known Member
The level of depravity is breathtaking at times. I would say shits is just an above average vaporizer user here in this FC forum. I'm at the other spectrum of this madness. I'm only using the Zion right now. Don't see that changing anytime soon. It literally checks all my boxes of need now type issues with vaping. As a matter of fact I gave my Grandma friend my lsv to play with for a while.
Shannock
Well-Known Member
I love this place! I started to think I had too many vapes when I got to 4 and sold my air to a friend - From your unused list I have the Vapman and can't say anything that hasn't already been said on this site - if you can use Lily & Daisy and can count to 5 you won't have any problems with the torch!
Wrong side of the pond to get a Zion but have sweaty palms just thinking about a single battery preorder!
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
I have 4 batteries so far, 2 in Venus and 2 in the charger or storage box after charging. When my production unit arrives I will probably get 1 or 2 more sets. I recently upgraded to the D4 in anticipation of this...
I usually run between 4 and 8 bowls a day.
For the first 6 months or so I used nothing other than my Zion. Then I began to need/want some variety and started using the Lotus occasionally. Then my VapCap came and I started adding that to the mix, but mostly using it when away. And when I have had people visiting sometimes the HerbalAire comes out as it is great for groups.
But 80% of my use is still the Zion because it is so easy to use and hits so hard...
MrPeanut
Zion, stealing faces since 2015
I have 5 sets. I would think 2 sets is more than enough. I generally do too many sessions a day 10ish lately and never need to switch out more than once and they second set is always charged by the time the first one is discharged. I use the first pairs that RBT gave me over a year ago the most. I have the spares in case of extended power outages ( I live in the mountains and am a crazy prepper). Can you imagine a week without a Zion? Screw that! The only other vape in my collection is a RBT 18650 single battery beta (be jealous).
Shannock
Well-Known Member
Very jealous! Ha - seriously though I can't get Zion and I'm properly Jonesing for some RBT goodness, is the Single gonna manage the VAS?
thekarmawhore
Well-Known Member
There's a few 'real' customers now, you'll certainly enjoy reading their early reports. I won't spoil it for you.
as someone with fresh ligament damage this thing can't come fast enough. Also went in to get a tooth fixed that was chipped found out three were messed up. Goes to show always get yourself checked after a car accident. No root canals necessary thank god. Hopefully will recover fine.
When it is finally our time for shipping do we confirm the address? Because if its over 2 months then I will need to update my address when the time comes.
@RastaBuddhaTao Keep them tweets coming! Every tweet I see feels like progress till one is in my hands. Eases my patience
When it is finally our time for shipping do we confirm the address? Because if its over 2 months then I will need to update my address when the time comes.
@RastaBuddhaTao Keep them tweets coming! Every tweet I see feels like progress till one is in my hands. Eases my patience
I love this place! I started to think I had too many vapes when I got to 4 and sold my air to a friend - From your unused list I have the Vapman and can't say anything that hasn't already been said on this site - if you can use Lily & Daisy and can count to 5 you won't have any problems with the torch!
Wrong side of the pond to get a Zion but have sweaty palms just thinking about a single battery preorder!
Go ooooonnnnn! Dooooo eeeit!
Just spreading the love from the USB thread @Copacetic
encouraged me to jump on the list (to be fair not much arm twisting was required). My VAS has definitely receded knowing im not gonna miss out on some RBT tech I was getting really jumpy!Thanks for the info @thekarmawhore
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Man I can't believe the hate that got projected towards @RastaBuddhaTao ... Dang I'm sorry man. You keep doing the best you can. While I am VERY impatiently awaiting zion and sister vapes, take ALL the time that you need, RBT. Please just keep releasing what you can when you can is all I ask.
Poo happens. But I still believe.
I'm REALLY waiting on the next projects.
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I know this is little late, but...
Come on every buddy...
This wait is nothing compared to the wait on new custom HI toasty top I've been waiting around a year an half for...
There aren't any excuses for all the hate, there's a freaking REFUND! Take it if you can't wait. Not like any one didn't fully warn you (multiple times) it's going to be a wait AND there will PROBABLY be a few bumps/complications along the way.
WHAT is there to be so dang mad about???? It's even slowly shipping! Ain't no bs nor out lies going on here.
Don't have another vape to use RIGHT now? Buy one of the plentiful descent cheeper ones on the market or hit up the classifieds and help a fellow member out, while helping your self.
To be fair, I do have too meny vapes, and don't even vape hardly at all any more (if at all)... BUT Y'all are so spoiled now days you don't even know....
I remeber when portable ment you could unplug it and easily carry it to your friends house and how AMAZING the VB/easy vape type big things were when they FIRST came out.
Now you got nothing BUT options. Bunch of cheep China vapes that can hang with the conduction big boys and even a vap cap for $30 new!
For real.... Teh heck ish disss?
I see no reason to be butt hurt at all... Let alone going full on blind rage and pushing it any one you can.
Though as an aside... It could have ben a bit less "culty", it's not actually supposed to be a cult... I think that "air" might have caused a good lil' bit of the friction... Not that I think any one went full on zelleot (sp?)... But I think that a few cases cult atmosphere might have been a contributing cause...
My two pennies, that no one cares about.
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End rant.
Have a good one, y'all. Vape (and/or much) on.
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Man I can't believe the hate that got projected towards @RastaBuddhaTao ... Dang I'm sorry man. You keep doing the best you can. While I am VERY impatiently awaiting zion and sister vapes, take ALL the time that you need, RBT. Please just keep releasing what you can when you can is all I ask.
Poo happens. But I still believe.
I'm REALLY waiting on the next projects.
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I know this is little late, but...
Come on every buddy...
This wait is nothing compared to the wait on new custom HI toasty top I've been waiting around a year an half for...
There aren't any excuses for all the hate, there's a freaking REFUND! Take it if you can't wait. Not like any one didn't fully warn you (multiple times) it's going to be a wait AND there will PROBABLY be a few bumps/complications along the way.
WHAT is there to be so dang mad about???? It's even slowly shipping! Ain't no bs nor out lies going on here.
Don't have another vape to use RIGHT now? Buy one of the plentiful descent cheeper ones on the market or hit up the classifieds and help a fellow member out, while helping your self.
To be fair, I do have too meny vapes, and don't even vape hardly at all any more (if at all)... BUT Y'all are so spoiled now days you don't even know....
I remeber when portable ment you could unplug it and easily carry it to your friends house and how AMAZING the VB/easy vape type big things were when they FIRST came out.
Now you got nothing BUT options. Bunch of cheep China vapes that can hang with the conduction big boys and even a vap cap for $30 new!
For real.... Teh heck ish disss?
I see no reason to be butt hurt at all... Let alone going full on blind rage and pushing it any one you can.
Though as an aside... It could have ben a bit less "culty", it's not actually supposed to be a cult... I think that "air" might have caused a good lil' bit of the friction... Not that I think any one went full on zelleot (sp?)... But I think that a few cases cult atmosphere might have been a contributing cause...
My two pennies, that no one cares about.
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End rant.
Have a good one, y'all. Vape (and/or much) on.
Copacetic
Somewhere North of The Wall
WORK HIM ROBBO! (I reckon @Shannock might be even easier to swing than you!
He's already admitted to sweaty palms).
Less of a cult, more of an infection.
The Zion virus spreads from post to post, thread to thread, forum to forum, like a zombie plague!
........ JOIN US .......
(love that smiley)