Discontinued Zion vaporizer

[Shit Snacks]

So are ISO joints actually unusable in the Zion? the long gongs that I ordered from DHgate turned out to be ISO instead of US. I know I've heard that if the glass joint is too long that it hits the heater screen. Does it actually prevent an airtight seal from forming? I guess it was a gamble buying these without being able to know what size they are.

Yeah, its a gamble, they're all different, but typically still useable to some degree

 

[darkrom]

Cheers guys, realllly sold me now. 18 stems a charge! Wow! 4 hits a stem sounds like the hammer but I only get around 5-8 from a tank!

I will jump on board asap just got to hear back about international shipping

Another issue being with the conversion rate zion 4 batts and a charger puts me around $500aud and I can pick up an Evo $600 locally new. However $600 + 500 = $1100 when I buy an Evo and still eventually need a zion. Where as I think I just might be able to get a Zion and shelve the Evo idea for a while... Bit to think about!

Can't take an evo with you. FWIW I sold my evo and went back to using log vapes at home, specifically underdog. I found it more enjoyable reliable and of course better value.

 

[thekarmawhore]

I do love my hammer, gives good clouds with relative ease and I do I enjoy the form factor. Looks to me the Zion will do bigger clouds, with more ease and look sexier!!
Okay one last annoying question, anyone with a cloud this is what I can't wrap my head around. With the cloud, am I paying for performance harder hitting then the Zion? Or similar/smaller clouds but all the technical bells and whistles that I don't greatly care for?
Or with the Zion am I paying for amazing performance relative to the size or can I fully expect cloud Evo clouds out of this thing?

Basically cloud vs Zion purely on cloud blowing ability, which wins? All things considered.

With the Zion the only bells and whistles will be between your ears, usually followed by buckling of the knees. Sitting during use is recommended until you learn the boundaries. I can only comment on the Zion as I've never tried a cloud. I'm a vape newb.

I can french inhale and blow vapor rings from lung exhaust (as opposed to mouth/cheeking it) from the same hit. In fact I'll do it right now to show you, hang on....



man o man...the exhale *cough* just keeps on going and going and going *cough**cough* whew.....ding ding ding ding ding ding-a ringgggggggg,



ok, steady as she goes

glad I was sitting for that! LOL!

your pal,
thekarmawhore

 

[cybrguy]

So are ISO joints actually unusable in the Zion?

Some will work ok and some will not. I have one adapter with an ISO that is close enough that it works ok, and 2 others that will not seal well enough to function. I don't have anything that will cut glass safely, but if you did, removing 4mm (then annealing the end) would probably make any ISO joint work. Mike tried that on the first adapters he sent me and they did fit correctly after that, but I wanted to use the dome screens with them and they wouldn't fit in the cut joint (as the inside diameter was ISO sized). They fit fine in a proper US joint which he uses now when asked.

 

[seaofgreens]

Really wish the US didn't use our own measurement system. An international standard, someday, please~

 

[Fission]

Some will work ok and some will not. I have one adapter with an ISO that is close enough that it works ok, and 2 others that will not seal well enough to function. I don't have anything that will cut glass safely, but if you did, removing 4mm (then annealing the end) would probably make any ISO joint work. Mike tried that on the first adapters he sent me and they did fit correctly after that, but I wanted to use the dome screens with them and they wouldn't fit in the cut joint (as the inside diameter was ISO sized). They fit fine in a proper US joint which he uses now when asked.

Ah, so is it actually a 4mm difference in the length between ISO and US? I think it's a definite possibility that the ones I just got will actually work then, as they seem to be only about 2mm longer than the US adaptor that I also have. I suppose I'm just going to need to wait until I get my unit and hopefully at least one or two of them will work properly.

 

[Tommy10]

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/best-butane-vape-for-macgyver-vaping.19046/

Fuck I'm gonna have some bottles, whips, glass, bags and allll sorts of shit hanging off this sucker! Zionfall sounds like it should be a rip snorter.

 

[smokeydabear]

This vape looks very interesting, wood makes me happy(so to speak). I'd be all in on the single battery unit, as I'm looking for something more pocket able. I have a preorder for a grasshopper thats supposedly for December but I might have to jump on this if it releases first.

 

[Tommy10]

Anyone got any info on shipping? Last checked the website and says USA only fill in form for international orders, but don't actually know if international orders will be received noted and shipped with the same first production runs? Because I'll happily wait for international shipping for even for a single bat with international.

 

[vapen00b]

@Tommy10
However regarding international shipping, Zion is actually now limited to US only, while the manual units can be sent internationally... Sorry about that, early on intl orders were taken but they could be a headache to get out so no more for now unfortunately...

 

[Tommy10]

Cheers, the special request bit gave me false hope! Haha. Oh well was kind of more excited for the single bat, I'm hoping zion power but 6-9 stems a charge? Obviously which one I purchase first will be which ever is available for international delivery first.

 

[phattpiggie]

loving this picture of where the Zion was and currently is

 

[VegNVape]

Nice pics VNV! Festival looks like fun too! Since you've obviously been taking her out of the house, how have you found her for portability? Is it pocketable or do you stash her in a bag? One last q, would you mind snapping a pick of her assembled next to a 12oz can when you have time? I think that would be a great comparison.

Ah thank you dude, but my apologies for the delay in getting back to you on this one - it appears 12oz cans aren't actually that common 'round these parts. Let's just say I had to go on a little bit of a mish . . . . .

So with regards to stashing this little monster about your person - I have found that Zion is, for me, certainly coat-pocketable. And even baggy-style shorts or pants pocketable. But he definitely ain't gonna fit in your 501's without causing a scene!

Anyway, surprise surprise! Once again I got carried away with the snaps . . . . (he jus so purrrdy) . . . . but it should at least give you a reasonable idea . . . .

Side view:

Rear view:

Cheeky:

Stem stashed:

LockNLoad:

Aerial shot:

He's my rock:

Zion top:

Er . . . . Birds-eye view?:

Take a bow:

I know I know I know!!!

Enough with the pictures already!

@VegNVapeR u really using this in a restaurant?

I will take my haze to the outdoor seating at a local bar/restaurant but cant imagine indoors.

Hey bro, again, sorry for the delayed response, forgot all about this one
In reply, generally no, but occasionally low low low low low low temps, just for a little flavour profile


OneLove!

 

[srama21]

Rear view:

Baby got back

 

[VegNVape]

Baby got back

Haha! Daaaaaaaamn right!

He is a dude though, but who cares, we'll let that one go!

Johnny's hot to trot no matter what!

 

[hackslasher]

Every vaporizer I imagine being so much bigger when reading about them. Thank you for the can comparison. Puts a great perspective on the size of this beast

 

[cybrguy]

Good pics, as usual VnV, thanks. And a 12oz can is a good relative size comparison for Zion I think. She's a little bigger, but close enough for approximation.

I also find it entertaining that after being a pop drinker most of my life, I can't find 1 12oz can, empty or full, in my place. Things certainly change...

 

[MichaelCompton]

Good pics, as usual VnV, thanks. And a 12oz can is a good relative size comparison for Zion I think. She's a little bigger, but close enough for approximation.

I also find it entertaining that after being a pop drinker most of my life, I can't find 1 12oz can, empty or full, in my place. Things certainly change...

I find it entertaining so many people still drink pop or soda despite how fucking awful it is for you

 

[doubledown]

@VegNVape Once again you come through to hold down my ever increasing VAS! I had perceived the Zion as a little bigger. Putting it into perspective beside a 12oz can really shows off how compact it is for all the potential it has packed in. Is it October yet?

 

[Shit Snacks]

Baby got back

Zion is full bodied in more ways that one!

 

[cybrguy]

I wanted to remind everyone that There Is 1 Week Left to get your order in and still get the Lifetime Warranty and the $199 price. Price will go up to $230 (I think) and warranty to 3 years at the end of the month. This has been extended a couple time so I don't think it will be again. Shipping for the first production units will begin pretty soon, so DON'T BLOW IT if you want one of these.

Truth is you will probably never need the warranty but it IS insurance, after all...

So, place your orders and join one of the happiest groups of Vape owners around.

Order your Zion today!!!

 

[darkrom]

I'm actually getting anxious about this vaporizer. So excited I'm anxious and feel like buds aren't worth it until it arrives, well on the go that is. At home the underdog will be there for me ALWAYS, so the zion is exactly what my collection needs. The mighty just sits in the box now. I use the firefly but it doesn't pack enough ooomph lately. Prob needs new battery.... I've been using more oil than ever between the drought of QUALITY buds around here, and the knowledge that I want to vape with full convection only. I need a zion in my life, then I can wait patiently for the single battery unit, and actually start using buds again.

 

[fyx]

I was going to be happy with just a Grasshopper, but there's no way I'm waiting until Dec (at the earliest). Just placed my order, even happier that I got it for this price AND the insurance of the lifetime warranty.

Question, is this shipping early October? Will I be placed on some backlog and have to wait longer because I just preordered?

I guess it comes down to, when are they going to start shipping and have they made enough to fulfill the preorders?

 

[seaofgreens]

Shipping starts on October 3rd if I recall, and I would assume starts going down the line from there.

edit, I dunno, maybe I am imagining that. The website just says October, so I guess that means anytime from the 1st through 31st of October, these will start shipping out

 

[fyx]

Shipping starts on October 3rd if I recall, and I would assume starts going down the line from there.

A Saturday is a weird day to start shipping orders out lol.. Either way, I'm looking forward to October!