@Shit Snacks -How do you find your consumption in relation to the ESV? I use the ESV in sessions of 2 or 3 packs per session. I don't cram it down, but I do press it down lightly. What your use like on the ESV and how does it compare/contrast with the Zion.
I'm pretty certain the Zion is everything I want the ESV to be and the ESV is already a great tool for me. I'm just really curious to how the 2 compare/contrast.
Totally, aside from size ofcourse Zion is basically doing what I used ESV to do but better and more overall
I mainly used Elevape during the day, often in the car, or in a house with others when stealth was called for (once in a theater too, still plan to try same with Zion). I used it at night some too, dinner parties, situations where I need just a quick strong puff to keep me going, in a bathroom say or quickly outside. I did also session with it as well, back to back hits, like before a movie, during TV, walking the dog etc, but never really back to back bowls. Typically would load fullish bowls with fineish grind for best effects and tastes, doing whole bowl at 305 though I step up to higher levels sometimes, but mostly that one low temp most recently. I've posted a lot about the various ways I've used it in that thread (was probably my most valueable and impressive personal vape overall), and its hard to remember how to describe it all at the moment bc since getting Zion I actually haven't used my Elevape once...
With Zion hits on demand are super tasty and strong as well, not quite as instant I suppose but certainly on demand, especially higher on the dial. It also works better sessioned than ESV, which I would stir every hit pretty much so kind of annoying to session, Zion you can finish without stirring if you want more easily. Just a better session experience overall, and sessioning means less preheat time even at lower voltages. Ive done the quick hit in a crowded house thing too though super stealthily with Zion at the beach. Also easier to cash and load, so better for back to back sessions, or just adding green on top toward end of a session is really great.
Zions more versatile in how you can use it and more even extraction in one hit than with ESV, with narrow bowl vs wide bowl, Zion only start to see hotspots when you're at higher temp and not stirring enough, like most pure convection. Much more temp control here as well, the dial is so so so much more intuitive than Elevape's guessing game based on draw speed and settings. Also Zions airflow is always open, where ESV is far more prone to clogs that can restrict airflow and cause combustion potentially. More screens and cleaning more often with ESV, more stirring, no replaceable batteries (and battery life better in Zion, more bowls, though I never had issues with the Elevape battery for my use, even when I relied on it more, since I really needed it when dealing with several failed/faulty Indicas and Solos).
Both have the kind of cloud density and hit in you in the face effects, used both often in my car before the gym where I'd session several low to mid temp hits, where the sun shines right in my windshield on the black interior and makes vapor is extremely visible, every wisp. Both produce the kind of ridiculous huge flowy clouds you'd expect from pure convection with this power, like sometimes shockingly so after a supersmooth low temp on demand hit, its just such a delight, a perfect vaping experience imo.
Another similar comparison for me is Firefly bc before Zion I was using ESV as I described above, and FF more chilling at home and when with others (Elevape did this too back when I first got it, a while before getting ff). Both are replaced by Zion easily, advancing on them quite a bit as well, yeah its bigger but it still almost completely covers off everything those two vapes did for me, in all the situations listed above pretty much (and true stealth will be where Jr comes in), its a tight portable package alltogether imo. I don't plan on selling ESV/FF bc i think they'd still be fun/useful every now and then, but I really don't need them at all anymore now and totally could sell both.
I began with Thermovape T1 for a while, before quiting combustion and finding VAS with the Solo (got kinda spoiled for session conduction by all the instant convection later on), Zion is exactly like T1 meets Solo for me, plenty portable in my experience so far and simple natural beauty and design of a log with the full power of an LSV, yet more easily tameable and versatile as well... Essentially my coverall vape
Does that paint a picture at least? lol