Zephyr Ion

Radie

Well-Known Member
CombustionJunction said:
I vape at 4 different temperatures for different reasons. This is the beauty of the ION.

357 - No sedative effects. Heady, not stoney, so it's perfect for when you have to do shit or be around people. Also the most efficient (get more bags out of less), high lasts the longest, and tastes the best IMO.

366 - 1st sedative kicks in. Still an active high, with just a little bit of stone

375 - 2 more sedatives kick in. This will put you on your ass.

440 - Another 2 sedatives. This will put you to sleep. See you in 12 hours!

THANK YOU! This is going to be my Bible!

This is exactly what I needed. I am so new to this scene. But have been smoking daily for about 15 years now. I actually use herb to "balance" out my head. I am normally VERY VERY VERY clutterbrained when fully sober. and I think it is the sedative qualities of the herb that help me to narrow down my train of thought and actually focus on something, So I am going to be aiming at the 366 or 375 area most of the time.

I cant wait, I cant wait... With any any luck.. that 24 hour countdown to when I should have it has already begun (come on USPS, dont screw this one up)
 
Radie,

tinman

Well-Known Member
DUDE :cool:

The best advice all of us here can give you first and foremost, DO NOT forget the bag is fiLLing uP!!! :D

*especially if it is the second...or thereafter ;)

I have not busted one yet, but we have got DAMM cloSe :o

I can assure you bud, as a long time veteran to smOking myself. You will NjoY your new toY!

It is a niCe change... :peace:
 
tinman,

drewper

Well-Known Member
doback said:
Hey guys so I'm a zephyr ion owner and have been for the past 5 months or so now. I can't tell you i love it because I'm always looking for another vape but it does it's job well.

I'd like to say several things about this vape and the company Zephyr. I am thoroughly disgusted by Zephyr company. I have called numerous upon numerous of times to be put through to a voice mail where I leave a message for no one to return it. Same goes for the emails I have sent. Still haven't received that free whip...

So with awful customer service off to the side let me continue onward with the vape itself starting from the base up.

Digital read out with buttons and everything is best on the market, maintains temperature flawlessly and have nice buttons that don't jam and won't die after a year or 4 of wear and tear, unlike some flimsy button companies...

Now for the bowl...oh the bowl how I HATE it with a passion. First off I don't own a soldering iron so uhmm I can't replace the bottom screen on the herb basket oh and how about my oils or concentrates? no pad, not anything. So when my screens it darkened by overall use and smudges on it that can't be cleaned, I just am stuck with a dirty screen? sick thanks.

Don't get me started on the seal, so after two weeks I figured away to get it to have absolutely no leakage but I don't think that the rubber seal was meant to go in that way, so instead of sealing the rubber ring to the outer screen on the lid, I flip it upside down and put it on top of the bowl, creates a great seal and stops the ring from popping off when you need to open the lid during high heat sesh's like around 380 because that rubber ring if applied to the straw, will pop off EVERY TIME, but not anymore with my new style, even though it gets worn at twice the rate.

Now for the lid and straw. I see it in two different ways either the bowl is stationary (like the zephyr) or it isn't (like the volcano). So the Zephyr's teflon stray that leads the vapor into the bag or whip sucks to say the least. With the volcano bowl you can easily have all of the components in your hand and easily clean them off so each hit is as crisp and new as the next. The zephyr because your finger doesn't fit in the tube and I don't own a million alcohol cotton swabs and don't want to have to go buy specialized equipment for my vape, cleaning out the tube sucks. It builds resin and after just two weeks of usage it needs cleaning again. OH annnnnnnd the teflon tube EASILY bends so if you get a little utensil in there to scrap off the resin, you might bend the straw or create a lump.

The bags, they suck too. After awhile the plastic just gets cheap and the spring on the inside or whatever for the mouth opening just gets worn and stops closing all the way.

I have my negative comments about my volcano too so I'm not being biased or anything.

BUT I have managed to find the best of both worlds, use the zephyr heating element and temp. control with the volcano solid or easy valve, because those things (well solid without the blue large ring on the bottom) fit directly on top of the zephyr's ceramic circular heating element.

So with my volcano bowls and zephyr vape it is honestly the best of both worlds, and when I put the whip to the easy valve to the toro, it's all an end game from there.

I will say that the way in which the zephyr heats the herb from ranges going from 320 with a .5g bowl to 374 for a two person hit the zephyr's heating element really hits all the ranges really well and I will say milks volcano bags WAY better than the volcano does hands down.

But I would still really like a whip :)

Also currently stitching a pouch for my percolated ash catcher to sit in while strapped snugly around the neck of the zephyr with a whip attached through it. Stationary water filtration, just like the aromed, without photon technology...

doback...the use of Volcano parts sounds cool. Do you find them to work best on the Zephyr using the Easy or Solid Valves/Filling Chambers?

Any tips or special instructions to get this working that you can offer would be appreciated. I'll probably try this out.
 
drewper,

Radie

Well-Known Member
Okay.. so the mailmen just dropped off my new baby...

I am having an issue though.. My basket doesnt seem to fit. The lid wont close. I am 100% certain that it is laying as flat as can be, it just seems that the white part of the lid keeps hitting it. Any thoughts?

Also.. I had seen some mention of O-Rings being installed in some and not in others? I have 2 O-Rings that came in a separate bag. Are these extras? Can anyone explain the other extras... I got 2 Soft O-Rings, 2 circular "sponges" and 2 things that appear to be replacement tips for the stem.
 
Radie,

herbgirl

cannabis aromatherapist
not sure about the fit issue, but mine makes a better seal when i have removed the oring and screen from the lid and then put the ring back and then the screen.

the 2 o rings are spares. the other extras are two o rings and two air filters that go somewhere under the machine.
 
herbgirl,

tinman

Well-Known Member
Radie on the lid the plastic piece on hinges there should be a silicone ring with the recessed part facing you, it is in place (or should be) to ensure a good leak free seal around the bowl.
 
tinman,

tinman

Well-Known Member
Hammerzeit said:
tinman said:
updated link: http://cgi.ebay.com/GLASS-VAPORIZER...103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bc1086d7

I just ordered one, I will let you guys/gals know more when I know more ;)

I just did the same. :brow:


I SO FuCked up... to much biomass I guess. (mine came in) This whip will not fit the ZephYr

The ZephYr does NOT have an 18mm stem, my bAd. It is like .480 which is like 12.3mm :uhoh:

It is cheap as hell to boot, I guess you get what you pay for.

Sorry guys! :mad:
 
tinman,

Hammerzeit

Well-Known Member
tinman said:
Hammerzeit said:
tinman said:
updated link: http://cgi.ebay.com/GLASS-VAPORIZER...103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bc1086d7

I just ordered one, I will let you guys/gals know more when I know more ;)

I just did the same. :brow:


I SO FuCked up... to much biomass I guess. (mine came in) This whip will not fit the ZephYr

The ZephYr does NOT have an 18mm stem, my bAd. It is like .480 which is like 12.3mm :uhoh:

It is cheap as hell to boot, I guess you get what you pay for.

Sorry guys! :mad:

I'm pretty sure some kind of gasket would work.
 
Hammerzeit,

Hammerzeit

Well-Known Member
Shit. I'm trying to replace a bag and I can't get the latches open. All I'm doing is digging into the plastic. :(
 
Hammerzeit,

Anthony

Anthony
Hammerzeit said:
Shit. I'm trying to replace a bag and I can't get the latches open. All I'm doing is digging into the plastic. :(

Easiest way to do it is to put something flat (Screwdriver, credit card) then turn that item sideways so it forces the top to pop off, it just seemed the easiest way to do it.
 
Anthony,

Bruce@Zephyr

Vapor Fan
Manufacturer
Radie said:
Okay.. so the mailmen just dropped off my new baby...

I am having an issue though.. My basket doesnt seem to fit. The lid wont close. I am 100% certain that it is laying as flat as can be, it just seems that the white part of the lid keeps hitting it. Any thoughts?

Also.. I had seen some mention of O-Rings being installed in some and not in others? I have 2 O-Rings that came in a separate bag. Are these extras? Can anyone explain the other extras... I got 2 Soft O-Rings, 2 circular "sponges" and 2 things that appear to be replacement tips for the stem.

The white part is supposed to hit the basket. The basket + proper position of the o-ring is what creates the seal. You should press down on the lid till it clicks into place, since your ION is brand new it may take 3lbs or pressure or so to get it to click.

The o-rings are extras, the "sponges" are spare air-filters (underside of the machine, probably need replaced once a year depending on your usage and environment) the other two things are in fact replacement tips for the stem. (some folks refer to them as "foreskin")
 
Bruce@Zephyr,

Hammerzeit

Well-Known Member
Well guys, the whip should arrive this week (if I get my mail time right). Luckily I stopped at Home Depot before I saw Harry Potter...

Pipe clamps. They should be the answer to ensuring a seal. I wasn't able to find a grommet of somekind but these should work. :cool:
 
Hammerzeit,

CombustionJunction

What's Your Function?
I got my whip yesterday. Haven't been able to try it yet cause I've been working all weekend on a huge server upgrade. Let me know what works for you.
 
CombustionJunction,

HiC

Well-Known Member
tinman said:
I SO FuCked up... to much biomass I guess. (mine came in) This whip will not fit the ZephYr

The ZephYr does NOT have an 18mm stem, my bAd. It is like .480 which is like 12.3mm :uhoh:

It is cheap as hell to boot, I guess you get what you pay for.

Sorry guys! :mad:

I prematurely jumped on the bandwagon and got one of these too. It's a short, overly-stiff tube with a couple glass pieces that don't fit the tube very well (I can only attach the mouthpiece end, barely). The other glass end doesn't fit the Ion straw either. Oh well, I just hope the official whips come out soon.
 
HiC,

Beezleb

Well-Known Member
Not sure I have confidence in a whip actually getting to owners. From my experience its more efficient to say "F" the whip and get just the tubing.

I use just the tubing and put the end of the tubing into a bong and that is that or just hit it straight via the tube. I have used many glass whips and all fall short compared to using just the whip. With that said, you will use out your "fore skin" type of rubber on the Zephyr end piece much faster using just the whip part.

I look forward to the day of a glass whip or equivalent that will work equally well.
 
Beezleb,

Hammerzeit

Well-Known Member
HiC said:
tinman said:
I SO FuCked up... to much biomass I guess. (mine came in) This whip will not fit the ZephYr

The ZephYr does NOT have an 18mm stem, my bAd. It is like .480 which is like 12.3mm :uhoh:

It is cheap as hell to boot, I guess you get what you pay for.

Sorry guys! :mad:

I prematurely jumped on the bandwagon and got one of these too. It's a short, overly-stiff tube with a couple glass pieces that don't fit the tube very well (I can only attach the mouthpiece end, barely). The other glass end doesn't fit the Ion straw either. Oh well, I just hope the official whips come out soon.

I'm pretty sure the glass end wouldn't fit anyway. Just the tube. :p
 
Hammerzeit,

Radie

Well-Known Member
Bruce@Zephyr said:
Radie said:
Okay.. so the mailmen just dropped off my new baby...

I am having an issue though.. My basket doesnt seem to fit. The lid wont close. I am 100% certain that it is laying as flat as can be, it just seems that the white part of the lid keeps hitting it. Any thoughts?

Also.. I had seen some mention of O-Rings being installed in some and not in others? I have 2 O-Rings that came in a separate bag. Are these extras? Can anyone explain the other extras... I got 2 Soft O-Rings, 2 circular "sponges" and 2 things that appear to be replacement tips for the stem.

The white part is supposed to hit the basket. The basket + proper position of the o-ring is what creates the seal. You should press down on the lid till it clicks into place, since your ION is brand new it may take 3lbs or pressure or so to get it to click.

The o-rings are extras, the "sponges" are spare air-filters (underside of the machine, probably need replaced once a year depending on your usage and environment) the other two things are in fact replacement tips for the stem. (some folks refer to them as "foreskin")

First off, thanks for the invite to call you with my issue... shit just got too hectic around here and I didnt have time to "troubleshoot", but I really appreciated the attempt.

As for the closing of the lid.. yeah it is pretty much exactly as you said... The new (stiff) O Ring was just making me panic about putting too much pressure on it. I had figured out that the O-Ring was what was causing the seal, but it just felt too stiff.. With use (and minor softening of the O-Ring) it has gotten better.. I will note that the hinge seems to lift up when closed.. This creates a small gap around the entire lid, but again, since the bowl is sealed with the ORing, I dont think this is an issue at all.. It seems like it might be stressing the hinge, but then again, the hinge looks different then most hinges I have seen.. almost like it has some allowance for movement, but I am not sure.

A New Thanksgiving tradition: replacing the air filter under the Zephyr.

I have been using this bad boy for the entire weekend and I have A LOT to report... When I have a bit more free time (later or tomorrow morning) I am going to post EXACTLY what I did during a few sessions and I am hoping that the Vapor-Veterens on here can critique what I have done... I really feel like I need some advice on what I am doing right/wrong.


One last thing... I have been a HEAVY daily smoker for MANY years... my initial feeling on the Zephyr is that it will be my main source of inebriation, but I just dont think I will ever give up smoking completely... I like the "cleanness" (for lack of better word) that the vapor gives you... But sometimes I want that "muddled, dopey" feeling that roasting a bowl provides... But even with that said.
 
Radie,

ccroller

Well-Known Member
:(
Those "4" temps dont realy mean much unless using the exact same "biomass" as the writer. What if your biomass is more sativa than indica?

I purchased this product about 4 weeks ago and have been 100% satisfied until this morning when it quit working on me. I only ever used 2 temperatures 360 and 365 depending on the density of the ground biomass. It has worked flawlessely until this morning when I turned it on as normal waited for it to reach 360 degrees at which time i added the bowl closed the lid added the bag hit the button and to my suprise the bag was quickly filled with dense white SMOKE!! I quickly shut the fan off removed the bag and bowl and looked into the bowl seat and the element was glowing red slightly but the screen said only 360 degrees and had only been on for about 5 minutes the entire day. After shutting the unit off and unplugging it to let it completely cool it no longer produces heat and the screen just flashes. Now I am back to smoking unfortunately until i get this resolved. I will check the website for info on what to do about sending it for a warranty repair. Up until today I would totaly recomend this product. It was worth every penny while it was functioning. I was even thinking about getting my dad one for Christmas. Well see how the warranty process goes and that will make my decision for me. I personaly pull my Zphyr vapor through a dephi bottlecap perc water bong and it is AWESOME!! There is NO COMPARISON and I have tried just about every smoking and vaporing method out their. Please fix my Zephyr quick.

Improvements I would like to see in future.

1. Whip for bong attachment.(spare bag assembly and spare gasket included work fine though. use some imagination)
2. Carberation Valve so can pull fresh cool air last 3 seconds or so. To cool the biomass so it doesnt sit and vape on my coffee table in between bowls.
3. A bag that is shaped to fit the nipple of the nozzle. (6" hole in bag and 1/2" nozzle. source of most leakage.)
4. tabs to hold the top screen in place. as time goes on usage domes the screen making it smaller and it drops on basket when done filling.

Other than the sudden breakage this is a great product.

Update: In contact and begining the warranty process. So far so good.
 
ccroller,

Radie

Well-Known Member
Hammerzeit said:
But sometimes I want that "muddled, dopey" feeling that roasting a bowl provides... But even with that said.

What temperatures are you running it at?

Well based on the info given to me earlier, I figured the higher the temp.. the dopier the feeling.. So I been vaping at top temp of 440. I feel like this is the least efficient way of going about this... but it does give the closest to smoking a bowl.
 
Radie,

ccroller

Well-Known Member
Radie said:
Hammerzeit said:
But sometimes I want that "muddled, dopey" feeling that roasting a bowl provides... But even with that said.

What temperatures are you running it at?

Well based on the info given to me earlier, I figured the higher the temp.. the dopier the feeling.. So I been vaping at top temp of 440. I feel like this is the least efficient way of going about this... but it does give the closest to smoking a bowl.

Bro at 440 your smoking it. Turn it down to 360 or 365 if your biomass is not finely ground. That chart several posts back doenst mean anything for you. You have a different biomass than that poster the temperature wont effect the effects that directly. You either get the good vapor or you dont. The qaulity and genetic makeup of the biomass determines the sedative effects on individuals.
 
ccroller,

Hammerzeit

Well-Known Member
Radie said:
Hammerzeit said:
But sometimes I want that "muddled, dopey" feeling that roasting a bowl provides... But even with that said.

What temperatures are you running it at?

Well based on the info given to me earlier, I figured the higher the temp.. the dopier the feeling.. So I been vaping at top temp of 440. I feel like this is the least efficient way of going about this... but it does give the closest to smoking a bowl.


Are you using a particular strain? I suspect you might have a strong sativa.
 
Hammerzeit,

HiC

Well-Known Member
ccroller said:
Bro at 440 your smoking it.

OK, here's something I want to make sure I'm staight on. I've been setting my Ion at max temp because I want ALL the effects possible, not just some of them. I usually go with about .1-.2 grams of biomass, set the temp at 440 and keep it there. I start out with a whip and get very thick hits in the beginning. When the hits thin out some, I remove the basket, stir and get a few more hits out of it. At this point, the biomass is medium brown and definitely not burnt. I remove the basket, stir it again, add a little kief or hash and then cover that with a little more ABV. I then re-vape using bags until there's no more visible vapor (3 bags or so depending on the amount of biomass and how much kief/hash I added). When the biomass is finally spent, it's darkish brown but still in no way burnt. I haven't used any of the dark-brown ABV yet for cooking but I imagine I'll be able to squeeze a bit more out of it that way. What do the FC vaping pros think of my method? Am I getting all I can out of my biomass? The super-thick hits at the beginning are kind of harsh, but I don't really mind much. You're saying I'm actually getting smoke?
 
HiC,

ccroller

Well-Known Member
Combustion occurs around 450 degrees or so I believe. Your not burning it but your dang close. It should never be harsh. Is your bag or whip brown? It shouldnt be. Only the very tip of my nossel and bag have any brown build up and it is a thick honey like substance that when stuck to the back of your tooth and licked provides a great buzz. The rest is a clear to cloudy glass clear buildup in the bag. You want the lease heat possible. Try 365 and fill about 5 bags with .2 grams you wont be disapointed.
 
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