Zeal, Ω, and Epitome

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Well shit. Hope the CC Zeal bowls are available soon. 😄
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sadeinmytapedek

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Zirconia Zeal is settled to 369 with coffee dark roast as the output, the SS on the same coil/DC PID was doing that at 420.
369 using the zirc zeal is awesome. I finally got my CH glass bowl yesterday and 425 seemed to give me instant clouds. I had to set to 470 using the qaroma shop multipurpose bowl that has higher walls. Im going to attempt to work my way further down temp wise today. This is all using fancier brand PIDs. I dont really see any benefit in using a higher priced PID when i can find these for half off. These have been pretty honest temp wise also.
 
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Where would I find a CH ecosystem? Any other suggestions for getting the zeal going while we're still waiting for the bundles?
If you want to CH route, you can buy the PID, 20mm coil, and "standard" bowl from them (Cannabis Hardware).

Another option is get the coil and PID from Disorderly Conduction.

Lots of good options beyond that but that's pretty easy. Also there are good recommendations in this thread.
 

iDRINKBLEACH

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Well shit. Hope the CC Zeal bowls are available soon. 😄
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I do have bowls in, I got quite a bit of stuff that needs to get listed but honestly this last month was the busiest CC has been since the start and wanted to get grounded again before getting going again. I haven’t been publicly active lately and hope things are starting to calm down a bit more. We’re hoping to list vertex and new ash catchers this weekend.
Things I have now that are new.
22mm tall coils x 20mm ID
PID
Glass Bowls
2 new prototypes for glass that are being tested

Things I’m working on

New batch of SS and Zirc zeal are being worked on. New handle/head stand design. Machined Zenith cores. We have also started working on our metal bowl design.
 

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I do have bowls in, I got quite a bit of stuff that needs to get listed but honestly this last month was the busiest CC has been since the start and wanted to get grounded again before getting going again. I haven’t been publicly active lately and hope things are starting to calm down a bit more. We’re hoping to list vertex and new ash catchers this weekend.
Things I have now that are new.
22mm tall coils x 20mm ID
PID
Glass Bowls
2 new prototypes for glass that are being tested

Things I’m working on

New batch of SS and Zirc zeal are being worked on. New handle/head stand design. Machined Zenith cores. We have also started working on our metal bowl design.
Yeah, I mean so much cool shit going on but I am sure you are swamped!

I will definitely grab a new bowl and a Vertex-compatible DD. Probably two bowls just in case lol.
 

sadeinmytapedek

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Rotary dial temp changes, those little arrow buttons are a pain.:2c:
I have pretty big fingers and i have no issues with those buttons. While rotary dial is without a doubt easier to adjust temps, i dont think its worth an additional $80. Not when you can find deals like this (see link) on discount enail that include coils. I spend enough on vape heads, ruby's, glass and material. The coil and PID are probably the most overpriced items out of all in my opinion. If im going to cut costs anywhere, it would be in this department. This is especially true for those of you just getting into the ball vape scene.

 

Madtater

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I have pretty big fingers and i have no issues with those buttons. While rotary dial is without a doubt easier to adjust temps, i dont think its worth an additional $80. Not when you can find deals like this (see link) on discount enail that include coils. I spend enough on vape heads, ruby's, glass and material. The coil and PID are probably the most overpriced items out of all in my opinion. If im going to cut costs anywhere, it would be in this department. This is especially true for those of you just getting into the ball vape scene.

Buy once, cry once.

Been burned before trying to save money on electronics. Never again.
 

sadeinmytapedek

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Buy once, cry once.

Been burned before trying to save money on electronics. Never again.
While i do usually agree regarding more complex electronics, I cant say i do about PID's and coils. These aren't complex devices and the cost to produce is extremely cheap. To be honest, most people offering plug and play kits are sourcing from China anyway. So unless you're using a company that has production in the states or somewhere else, what are you really paying extra for? A screen printed logo on top of the same exact device? All those features like auto shut off on some of the "fancy" PID's can be replicated using a smart plug with the exception of rotary dial.

This is just my opinion. I hope this advice can help anyone on this forum thats new to the ball vape scene. I wish i wouldve found this forum before i started making my first purchases. I would've saved so much money. With all that said, special thanks to IDB for making it affordable for us all. Before you sir, prices were just outrageous for ball vape heads, to rubies and everything in between.
 

sadeinmytapedek

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After pulling apart a couple cheapies to repair, I would say the cheapest versions are soldered up by poorly trained monkeys, I leave my PID on for extended periods (o/night when I forget).:2c:
That said, I do like my Menovo Cheapie PID, rotary temp, remote control, 20mm coil (with TI banger that will never get used) for about 100 when I got mine.
The cheap link is out of stock, but still here, should be available elsewhere too,
what a great find. I might have to jump on this for my travel PID. Hard to beat rotory dial and remote. Does the BCC listing come with the case/coil also. Hard to tell from the listing even thought its all shown in first pic. Does anyone know the pin out mapping for Menovo?
 
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iDRINKBLEACH

knowing is half the power - Gi-JOE
Accessory Maker
Going to have a VERY limited amounts of some SS zeal with ruby, pid, coil going up on the store soon. Currently awaiting more parts to add more to the kit with a bit of increase for other items that will be added and awaiting more housings. Also will have some glass products being put up. Hoping in the next few hours we will be ready to post it all on the webstore.
 
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jkeyes98

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Going to have a VERY limited amounts of some SS zeal with ruby, pid, coil going up on the store soon. Currently awaiting more parts to add more to the kit with a bit of increase for other items that will be added and awaiting more housings. Also will have some glass products being put it. Hoping in the next few hours we will be ready to post it all on the webstore.
Looks like they are live! Just scooped one of them. Thanks IDB!
 
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