Which portable vaporizers can be used with Hash

Hello Everybody,

I have been searching on the forums for a while, I just bought the Magic Flight vape and is amazing!!! best toy ever.

But I am moving out of the country and going to live in China. I been there before and weed sucks, but hash is amazing and you find it anywhere.

Anyway, i read that i cant use hash on Magic Flight, which is disapointing because that vaporizer is perfect.

I'm looking for a portable hash vaporizer, so when in China i'll be stoned every day without getting caught. ;)

any suggestions??
 
mexican_player2,

Nycdeisel

Well-Known Member
I hear the penalties in China are disgustingly terrible.

anyway, the Essential Vaaapp is your best bet for any concentrates, and its portable! all you need is a decent torch
 
Nycdeisel,
You will effectively disable your MFLB in a matter of days using gooey concentrates with it. A week, tops.

I too would weigh the consequences versus the advantages. I guess as long as you have enough cash to bribe their absurdly, criminally corrupt police force, you'll be okay.

Some excellent portable vapes for concentrates are: the Lotus, VG Classic/handcarved/Glass, VapeOrSmoke, Eclipse vapes, maybe the Supreme, Glass vapobowl, and probably some others.
 
charliedontsurf,

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
For hash I would definitely recommed the Eclipse / Vaaapp

Don't mess up your LB with hash unless you jerryrig an inner screen to put on the trench. I've seen this done, but it takes just the right screen to fit in the trench.

Good luck.
 
Stu,

WatTyler

Revolting Peasant
I give my full recommendation to the Vapbong.

Hash is the only good use for this glass vape IMO, and with it it works great. All glass and heated with a torch, you can get the temps as high as you want, but as the load is seperate from the layer of glas being heated you ca get the temps quite high as needed for hash/concentrates but with less potential for burning/scorching. It can be fully cleaned spotlessly with ISO and broken down into pieces that in no way resemble a vape. It's overpriced for what it is, like many vapes, but fully functional as a hash vape. A little fragile, so you need to take care with it, but it does come with a stealthy marker pen case (although it says vapbong vape on it, which isn't so stealthy)

I also have the Eclipse. It's a good vape for hash and oils, but vials are an issue (esp. if travelling, and in Europe I can't find the US threads) and a bitch to clean. It's also easier to scorch the load if you're using a torch, as it's just a thin layer of the glass vial to your hash inside. The whole pipe can be soaked in iso and cleaned though. Also more expensive than the vapbong, and less stealthy for travelling IMO.

If I get a chance I'm hoping to make a vid/pics of the vapbong vaping hash, as I do think that it's something folk should know more about.
 
WatTyler,
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FLskwat

VAPOLITICS!
Eclipse Vaaap (H20 & Pipe)/Vape or Smoke/ MF with MOD SS gauze basket (shit just did that one it works awesome!)/Vapbong (yeah Spanish guys know about hash,LOL...) ... list is quite long in fact!
 
FLskwat,

luchiano

Well-Known Member
I haven't tried this yet with the MFLB but wouldn't putting the hash on some ultra thin rolling papers inside the mflb bowl be good enough to prevent problems because the hash would melt into the rolling papers fibers and being that they are thin and have very little taste like RAW or DLX all you would taste is the hash instead of the papers or burned/overly toasted bud which some use as a layer for hash. You would just have to make sure you put only a little hash and spread it out because it will melt and expand if you have good hash.

Also, like NYCdiesel stated getting caught in china is aBIG problem from what I've read but I saw Dame Dash and DJ Wordy smoking weed like it was nothing so who knows but I wouldn't take that chance at least out in the open. Go to 3:43

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRZmzMG7NtY
Damon Dash A Day
 
luchiano,

luchiano

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FLskwat, I read somewhere that using other screens may short circuit the mflb and it may void the warranty. I may be wrong but I thought I read it somewhere.

I think if you want a quick hit smoking is the best because it gets everything hot enough to boil away but if you want hits in small amounts and releasing certain chemicals such as just taste mostly, then high depending on temperature used, vaporizers are the best.
 
luchiano,
Wow, everyone thank you for the replies, it was insightful.

I think I will go for the Eclipse and buy around 24 vialis. Do they break easily or what?
I want to use it so I can be stoned all day everyday, so it needs to be stealthy and to not make odor.

Maybe will take vapbong instead, sounds good.

I wish I had my MF 2 years ago when in college!, to many times in public when a good toke would eliminate my boredom and avoid trouble... I once got caught by the federales for smoking in my car while inside college and could almost got expelled in my last semester before graduation.... good times.

by the way I'm stoned ;)

You hear many things about China, but it is different when you are there. I lived in Shanghai for 1 year and it was very easy to get hash, it was home delivery 24/7 and excellent prices...
Just be smart and you won't get caught ever.
 
mexican_player2,

Raf007

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@ Luchiano
Hi there,
AFAIK you are almost right when you say that "other screens may short circuit the mflb" BUT from what I have come to understand, it is using aluminium that could change the calibration of the box (I tried and it did decalibrated my box). I don't know about other screens though, but from what I saw at Flswkat his LB seems to work properly with the screen.

I am sure he will confirm or infirm this with more time.

As for rolling papers, I also tried, it doesn't work...nor does it work good in the supreme vaporizer.

Oh, and I confirm, for Hash, the Vape or Smoke works perfectly...it's actually loaded in my right pocket....with the LB in my left one of course. ;)

2en edit: And the V&S is way more durable and stealth than the Eclipse.
 
Raf007,

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
Raf007 said:
@ Luchiano
Hi there,
AFAIK you are almost right when you say that "other screens may short circuit the mflb" BUT from what I have come to understand, it is using aluminium that could change the calibration of the box (I tried and it did decalibrated my box). I don't know about other screens though, but from what I saw at Flswkat his LB seems to work properly with the screen.

[...snip]

Could you elaborate on this de-calibration? What happened, and could you correct it?
 
pakalolo,

luchiano

Well-Known Member
Raf007 said:
@ Luchiano

As for rolling papers, I also tried, it doesn't work...nor does it work good in the supreme vaporizer.

Did you use more paper than hash and made sure the hash was as small as you can get it because if it's too big a vaporizer doesn't have enough heat to get it going, you need to have the hash in as much small pieces as you can get?. I like to break it up with my fingers if it's like putty and use something sharp to break it up. If a little harder just use a razor to break it up, put it in the freezer along with your grinder for about 15 minutes to get real cold and grind the broken pieces while it is still cold so it won't melt onto the grinder.

I previously forgot to mention that you should tear the paper into small pieces also so air can flow through the paper and then spread out the small pieces of hash and let it melt onto the paper screen. In other words use the hash like kief and puff when the hash is in it's powdered, trichome like natural state because if you don't you need WAY more heat to get it going unless it's really soft hash and even then all of it will take a while to vape unless your using a really high temperature. You are essentially recreating nature in a different, more potent form because when using leaf or bud as a screen it is too thick and has too many other substances in it while using ultra thin rolling papers takes all this away and leave just the cellulose. Plus you are adding a little more trichomes than the plant can have and if you pressed it right changed the make up of the trichomes a little. If your vaporizing at different temperatures in a session you are also getting more substances than if you smoked it quick/add high heat which you will need to do if you used chunks or sizes bigger than sand.

Remember hash is nothing more than trichomes that are on the bud just in a more concentrated form and pressed together for transportation and some say changes the character of the trichomes. When it is on the plant it is surrounded by plant fibers and there is very little of the trichomes(around 95% plant fibers and 5% trichome), so when vaporizing air can circulate and boil the small trichomes but if you're using large chunks of hash or too much powder at once which melts onto itself and congeals, at least compared to small amounts of kief powder or trichomes in there natural state, you will need excess amount of heat and this will burn a lot of the lower oils fast which means tar. This is why people who smoke a lot of hash especially dry and not in a water pipe get that funny cough like someone who smokes a lot of cigarettes or they look like they smoke a lot due to their skin getting that dried out look and wrinkling. You know the cough where it sound like there is mucus in the throat. This is why I state break up the hash as small as possible until it is like sand and spread it out so you will see more of the paer than hash pieces. You won't need a lot of heat to get it going and you won't burn a lot of the oils which means more pure taste and not burned hash taste mixed with some pure taste. That is good sometimes but I wouldn't want to do it all the time especially since I know ingesting burned oils consistently isn't a good thing.

Even for smoking small pieces/powder is best. The two people who is known to have the best hash in the world, Sam Skunkman and Bubbleman don't press their hash and only smoke the trichomes in their powdered state because they realized you get more out of it than if you puffed it pressed or in large chunks.

If you have a bowl that isn't long like the mflb or you use a lot say for a party you want to add the pieces of paper first on top of the screen, add the small pieces/powdered hash on to the screen, add more paper on top of the hash, and keep doing this until the screen is half full. This keeps the air flowing in a bowl that goes upward and prevent the hash from congealing and blocking airflow.
Anyway, enjoy it.
 
luchiano,
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