What's with this SWIM stuff?

[lwien]

If someone is that fucking paranoid about being in the internet that they have to make up a name and use it third party in every post they post up, throw the fucking 'puter out the window. Man, if that were me, it just wouldn't be worth the mind fuck.

 

[kaleimud]

Yeah lwien, I came to that same realization quite some time ago also. A pseudonym is sufficient for a law abiding forum like this, I think.

If someone is doing something that could drastically change their lifestyle or hurt their family, they need to be using real security, not trifling with SWIM.

It was funny once, more than a decade ago. Now it is a bagel from last week that fell down behind the box and you didn't notice it until just now. It is old and dry and it has no place in my vocabulary.

 

[Howie Feltersnatch]

I do not use drugs and never will, I learned everything i needed to know from Ernie Lindquist now that I know everything I do not need him anymore, he lives at 126 Main street and hides his stash in the shower curtain rod -slight paraphrase Childs Garden of Grass

Thanks for that reminder. That book was my most prized possession next to Stranger In A Strange Land. Wish I knew where it ended up. Many enjoyable hours trying out shit from that book.

 

[lwien]

Grok.

 

[kaleimud]

I groked as a kid, but I fnorded more.

 

[Mark]

and dont forget guys when dealing with someone you dont know always ask if they are with the police because the police can never lie and if they do lie thats entrapment and they go to jail not you

http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/juvenile_law/police_lie_questioning.htm

I'm half-way certain you're jokingly passing on this myth, but just in case someone reads it and doesn't get it I want to make sure they know the truth.

In Canada, a cop must be in uniform, or at least, they cannot try to trick you by dressing as a pot head, or a dealer, or even a prostitute. Entrapment is very illegal in Canada.

 

[Raf007]

Huuu, what's swim ?

I tought you were talking about swimmers, obviously not ...

 

[SmogTown]

Entrapment in canada is getting someone to do something they wouldn't normally do. Its a very grey area. And for the record if you ask a cop if they're a cop they do not have to reveal themselves as cops. I swear to god it must be LEO's that spread that rumor makes their job a whole lot easier .

 

[Lo]

SWIM = Annoying!

Looks like an acronym for: See what I mean

So what, I'm mean??

 

[DevoTheStrange]

and dont forget guys when dealing with someone you dont know always ask if they are with the police because the police can never lie and if they do lie thats entrapment and they go to jail not you

http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/juvenile_law/police_lie_questioning.htm

I'm half-way certain you're jokingly passing on this myth, but just in case someone reads it and doesn't get it I want to make sure they know the truth.

In Canada, a cop must be in uniform, or at least, they cannot try to trick you by dressing as a pot head, or a dealer, or even a prostitute. Entrapment is very illegal in Canada.

Yeah I know a good deal of cops, and I know they will lie to you to get you to say the wrong thing. The second you say the right words or phrase you get popped. I almost got arrested for blowing a cops cover. But since I didn't really do anything wrong I didn't get arrested, just ended up pissing off a cop.
or as one of my cop friends says "There is a nice grey area that allows me to not identify myself as an officer in order to make a suspected drug bust"

 

[PerseusStoned]

In Canada, a cop must be in uniform, or at least, they cannot try to trick you by dressing as a pot head, or a dealer, or even a prostitute. Entrapment is very illegal in Canada.

Forgive my ethnocentrism, of course I was talking from an American's point of view. Unfortunately I have no experience with that of any other countries.

or someone guessed your password and posted things under your account. I don't really think that posting on the internet will be that admissible in court. Even if you posted your full name, you could still claim it was someone else. if they can trace it back to an IP you can say someone got on your PC while you were out, or your wifi was unsecured.

i think internet paranoia is usually well beyond what it should be

As far as I know claiming "someone else" posted something rarely works as a legal defense; there is a fine line between "reasonable doubt" and "can't 100% prove it". Lots of people have gotten busted for blog posts on the internet even with incredulous claims. I'm mostly only familiar with cases from a business perspective (i.e. trader secrets or posting things about the office, getting fired, then suing claiming it wasn't you), but I'd be pretty surprised if the laws acted differently for drug posts.

 

[steiner666]

I could see someone revealing things online and the feds or someone reading it and then using that information to help them find some sort of substantial evidence.

Like if i lived in north carolina and I posted a comment where i said that I drive down to south carolina every other friday to buy a QP and bring it back home and sell it, I don't think I would get busted for saying that, but I'd say I greatly increased the odds of getting busted during a future deal/transport.

i'm not a lawyer, but that's just how i see it. i think they'd want to get you with something more likely to stick.

 

[Raf007]

SWIM = Annoying!

Looks like an acronym for: See what I mean

So what, I'm mean??

oh ok, thx. That's nice swim.
But then what the link with entrapment ?* lol
anyway, I remember clearly from my law class (americain law class that is) that entrapment is clearly legal in your country.

 

[Howie Feltersnatch]

oh ok, thx. That's nice swim.
But then what the link with entrapment ?* lol
anyway, I remember clearly from my law class (americain law class that is) that entrapment is clearly legal in your country.

Actually, entrapment is not legal. However, a very strict interpretation of the term by the DA means that they can get EXTREMELY close without breaking it (according to them).

I personally believe that if a LEO solicits someone to do something illegal that they were not already in the act of doing, they should be guilty of a crime too.