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JBone65

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I remember getting the best happy weed from Mexico, back in the seventies. That stoped with the paraquat spraying, thanks to Nixon for that stupid action. And now, they are finding that paraquat may cause Parkinson’s disease. Back to the Mexican weed. Everyone started using Columbian Indica strains. They were not like the Mexican dancing strains.

I can still taste my all-time favorite 2-3 strains, and I remember countless "lids" of Mexican weed, which seemed to get better over time. 48 years ago I scored a 1/3 lb of sweet Oaxcan Gold for $42. Brain damage no doubt resulted. I think the main reason I've been blending strains, for several years, is to try to reproduce the flavors and especially the level of satisfaction I felt back in the dark ages.
 

bulllee

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I can still taste my all-time favorite 2-3 strains, and I remember countless "lids" of Mexican weed, which seemed to get better over time. 48 years ago I scored a 1/3 lb of sweet Oaxcan Gold for $42. Brain damage no doubt resulted. I think the main reason I've been blending strains, for several years, is to try to reproduce the flavors and especially the level of satisfaction I felt back in the dark ages.
I remember when Oaxcan weed first showed up in Arizona in the 70's. One of my favorite strains . Great high. My brother was into dealing and could not keep enough of this weed on hand, it sold like wild fire at the time 🔥. Big colas, soaring highs, almost psychedelic , very tasty stuff . I've been searching for some ever since then.
 

666Honeybadger

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Used FC for inspiration while seedshopping earlier this year. One of the strains that piqued my interest was Blue Dream.
It's actually still drying but i found a nug for a preliminary tastesession...
In the TM2 paired with a (homemade) ginger-tumeric shot!

Eyes wide open!!!
:haw:

 

CANtalk

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Amazing homemade rosin there @LesPlenty. And so awesome @666Honeybadger, great to hear the strain oracle of FC helps ✨. I'm a big fan of Blue Dream & try to recommend it regularly here. Hope it delivers for you big time. Let us know what you think & enjoy.
bow down all hail GIF by The Academy Awards




Lots of great shares again from everyone 👍. I'm sharing again because I recently picked up three new batches of cannabis, and the first new stuff in a year.
Happy Birthday Yes GIF


And currently in the vape is this fresh new batch of Super Lemon Haze :love:🔥
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Yes, count me impressed ❤️. ~1.5 gram nugs, a little sticky when handling / preparing & easy to crush. Big strong sativa f/x & fun, very uplifting & euphoric. Highly recommended, probably my #1 favorite strain the last three or so years. And it's my third batch trying Super Lemon Haze.

Back with new stuff after a year! It's great & I'm happy that I can share new pics finally again. Check out the sativa thread in the Vaporizables forum for more talk on what strains I picked up, the odd preview & lots of excellent sativa discussion.

Strong stuff :science: :science:
(sorry for any spelling / grammar awkwardness)


Have a great weekend.

:peace: :leaf:
 
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Spy Car

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It's a good question. I looked at several articles and they all point the same direction. No one knows how it got there, one article suggested Arab & Indian traders probably brought cannabis as early as 1500 AD. The Dutch East India Company traded it ~1640. However it got there it's a unique psychoactive landrace from outside the town of Durban today. Some photos on Reddit show long skinny fan leaves so it might have sativa morphology.

I should mention that I've purchased a lot of mediocre Durban Poison over the years. It's not all great, just lucky this batch turned out above average. I would prefer Oaxcan Gold or some other original sativa, but that doesn't seem to exist anymore. The only modern hybrid with the flavor most like an old Mexican sativa that I am aware of is called crackerjack. Bought one ounce several years ago, tried to get more a few days later but it was gone. I guess I'll have to grow it myself....


You have a greater fondness for the memory of Oaxaca Gold than I do.

While Oaxacan was far superior to the Columbian and other low grade pot of the era (of the sort that was widely available), I
would rate it way below the CA Sinsemilia, Maui Wowie, Thai and similar sativa strains that my circle was smoking in the mid-to-late 70s.

Very different tiers IMO.

The Durban Poison I've had thus far, from 3 growers, has all been about the same. Too dry. Not really fully mature (as in, not dripping with resin). Basic commercial flower. But not bad otherwise. The effects are inline with what works for my brain chemistry. Do I wish the cultivation practices lifted the product to what I know it could be? You bet!!!

There is nothing like fully mature sativa flowers. Few have the time and patience to grow optimally, unfortunately.

Bill
 
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2tiki

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Used FC for inspiration while seedshopping earlier this year. One of the strains that piqued my interest was Blue Dream.
It's actually still drying but i found a nug for a preliminary tastesession...
In the TM2 paired with a (homemade) ginger-tumeric shot!

Eyes wide open!!!
:haw:

Blue Dream is one of my all time favorites!
 

JBone65

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You have a greater fondness for the memory of Oaxaca Gold than I do.

While Oaxacan was far superior to the Columbian and other low grade pot of the era (of the sort that was widely available), I
would rate it way below the CA Sinsemilia, Maui Wowie, Thai and similar sativa strains that my circle was smoking in the mid-to-late 70s.

Very different tiers IMO.

The Durban Poison I've had thus far, from 3 growers, has all been about the same. Too dry. Not really fully mature (as in, not dripping with resin). Basic commercial flower. But not bad otherwise. The effects are inline with what works for my brain chemistry. Do I wish the cultivation practices lifted the product to what I know it could be? You bet!!!

There is nothing like fully mature sativa flowers. Few have the time and patience to grow optimally, unfortunately.

Bill
I'm from a really plain little (hick) town out on the great plains. The weed supply was spotty in the best of times. Went off to school in January 1975. Immediately invested a high fraction of my food money In 1/3 lb of Oaxacan after meeting the two Venezuelans that lived next door. Over the next 4-5 years I had a steady supply of premium seeded weed at amazing prices. I didn't get my first taste of bright green/gold sinsemilla until late 1976 or early 1977, and didn't purchase any before the mid 80's. It was expensive in Texas throughout the 80's. I agree that the sinsemilla I saw in 1976 was better than what I see today. I chalk it up to modern breeding, growing and storing techniques, none of which are focused on optimum flavor.
 
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Photonic

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I chalk it up to modern breeding, growing and storing techniques, none of which are focused on optimum flavor.
Umm...?

I didn't smoke in the 70s (started in the 80s) and can believe there are long flowering strains, with unique effects, that are no longer around, but I'm not at all sure that modern growers don't know how to get good flavor. :hmm:

In fact, the range of flavors are amazing nowadays.
 

JBone65

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Umm...?

I didn't smoke in the 70s (started in the 80s) and can believe there are long flowering strains, with unique effects, that are no longer around, but I'm not at all sure that modern growers don't know how to get good flavor. :hmm:

In fact, the range of flavors are amazing nowadays.
I agree that the range of flavors is huge. No one, to my knowledge, has produced or reproduced any of the classic American sativa flavors. There were at least 8-10 distinct, unmistakable flavors. I don't have anything against fruit or diesel or other flavors, and I admit that my memory is probably distorted. Anyone, I would love to hear that I'm wrong. :myday::leaf::horse:
 

Photonic

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I admit that I love the older flavors too, but some of that is likely nostalgia. There are preservation efforts and folks messing with old genetics, but you won't find them in a dispensary since they aren't commercially viable (at least not right now). Their flowering time, yield and relatively difficult cultivation keeps most breeders away.

Another issue is the age of these decades old seeds and getting them to germinate. There are newer techniques that can help here though... They are also rare due to prohibition and the need to stay hidden. If you're willing to try growing older genetics, you can find preservation projects and breeders specializing in 70s/80s sativas. I have a couple packs of Double Jam, which are a combination of 70s Jamaican Lambsbread x 80s Jamaican Blue Mountain. They can take up to 18 weeks to flower so it may be awhile before I get a chance to pop them. :ugh:
 

JBone65

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I admit that I love the older flavors too, but some of that is likely nostalgia. There are preservation efforts and folks messing with old genetics, but you won't find them in a dispensary since they aren't commercially viable (at least not right now). Their flowering time, yield and relatively difficult cultivation keeps most breeders away.

Another issue is the age of these decades old seeds and getting them to germinate. There are newer techniques that can help here though... They are also rare due to prohibition and the need to stay hidden. If you're willing to try growing older genetics, you can find preservation projects and breeders specializing in 70s/80s sativas. I have a couple packs of Double Jam, which are a combination of 70s Jamaican Lambsbread x 80s Jamaican Blue Mountain. They can take up to 18 weeks to flower so it may be awhile before I get a chance to pop them. :ugh:
I think there around 10000 ads for ounces of weed for sale in relatively small Oklahoma. Some of it is excellent, most of it probably isn't. IMO none of it has the finer flavor of any of the original sativas that people of my age (old and older people) enjoyed. Most of the modern strains don't work for me, and remind me of Swisher Sweet cigars compared to Havana cigars. Don't get me wrong, life is better today, I can get by just fine, but I would take those strains in a heartbeat over any of the modern strains. Even the dirt weed was occasionally excellent, with seeds. Efforts have been made to find and revive specialty strains but no luck that I'm aware of. I'm guessing they're doing it for marketing purposes. It's also getting harder to find the early hybrids around here. The two growers that made the effort but failed within the past year. Apparently there is strong economic pressure on growers to do everything possible to maximize profit, just to survive. That includes picking easy high-yield strains and taking short cuts that impact quality. I blend carefully picked dispensary strains in order to get a more full flavor and effect. Will try again with the autoflower on the back porch this coming spring. Home grown is usually better from my experience, I'm thinking I can get there with minimal effort and with autoflower. We'll see.
 
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Radwin Bodnic

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Will try again with the autoflower on the back porch this coming spring. Home grown is usually better from my experience, I'm thinking I can get there with minimal effort and with autoflower. We'll see.
Auto flower means there's, at least, 30% of the genetic pool of the seed that is from Cannabis Ruderalis.

If you want to get close to...
the finer flavor of any of the original sativas that people of my age (old and older people) enjoyed.
... then you should avoid autoflowering seeds.
 
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2tiki

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I think there around 10000 ads for ounces of weed for sale in relatively small Oklahoma. Some of it is excellent, most of it probably isn't. IMO none of it has the finer flavor of any of the original sativas that people of my age (old and older people) enjoyed. Most of the modern strains don't work for me, and remind me of Swisher Sweet cigars compared to Havana cigars. Don't get me wrong, life is better today, I can get by just fine, but I would take those strains in a heartbeat over any of the modern strains. Even the dirt weed was occasionally excellent, with seeds. Efforts have been made to find and revive specialty strains but no luck that I'm aware of. I'm guessing they're doing it for marketing purposes. It's also getting harder to find the early hybrids around here. The two growers that made the effort but failed within the past year. Apparently there is strong economic pressure on growers to do everything possible to maximize profit, just to survive. That includes picking easy high-yield strains and taking short cuts that impact quality. I blend carefully picked dispensary strains in order to get a more full flavor and effect. Will try again with the autoflower on the back porch this coming spring. Home grown is usually better from my experience, I'm thinking I can get there with minimal effort and with autoflower. We'll see.
Have you tried any from California? I've been "sampling" California herb for over 30 years. Depending on how much I'm willing to spend, I can get stuff that is some of the worst I've ever had, or some of the best. I have also grown my own and 1 of the plants was up there with the best I've ever had. The other one was "better than good enough" but not outstanding.

I used to know a guy who sold MJ in the 60's. He told me that since he moved to California, almost everything he's had has been better than what he had back in the day. That said, he would usually by more expensive stuff than I did.
 
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JBone65

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Have you tried any from California? I've been "sampling" California herb for over 30 years. Depending on how much I'm willing to spend, I can get stuff that is some of the worst I've ever had, or some of the best. I have also grown my own and 1 of the plants was up there with the best I've ever had. The other one was "better than good enough" but not outstanding.

I used to know a guy who sold MJ in the 60's. He told me that since he moved to California, almost everything he's had has been better than what he had back in the day. That said, he would usually by more expensive stuff than I did.
Not lately. Last I heard they grow mostly the same strains out there as they do here. Lots of good weed, probably better if closer to the source and further from the dispensary. I haven't heard about anyone growing the original sativa flavors out there.
 
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Photonic

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It can definitely be about money to some degree, but it's also about feasibility. It isn't always as simple as no one likes older strains or they feel modern hybrids are so much better in taste/effects, but until the federal laws for cannabis change we'll have to buy flower grown in our own state. Most places in the U.S. can't grow strains that originate closer to the equator. Cold, wet weather often arrives well before many older sativa strains are done flowering, and even if you could get them to finish we can't expect them to have the same phenotypical expression as they would in their native environment. Growing them indoors is often not feasible, since even if you flip clones right after planting they might still grow 10ft tall by the time they've finished their long flowering period.

To grow old school sativas, you probably want to be in a different climate. It may not still be commercially viable, but something a home grower could do much more easily (i.e., throw some seeds in the garden and wait 7+ months).

Home grow laws are most important when it comes to keeping the cannabis market in check. Grow your own if at all possible and pick whichever flavor you like best!
 
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pop22

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Auto flower means there's, at least, 30% of the genetic pool of the seed that is from Cannabis Ruderalis.

If you want to get close to...

... then you should avoid autoflowering seeds.
No, good autoflowers have most of the Ruderalis bred out of them if it's from a reliable breeder.Done right, there should be less than 10% Ruderalis in the cross. And yes, like all other canna seeds, there IS a lot of crap out there!
 
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2tiki

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Not lately. Last I heard they grow mostly the same strains out there as they do here. Lots of good weed, probably better if closer to the source and further from the dispensary. I haven't heard about anyone growing the original sativa flavors out there.
When you write, "original sativa flavors", you are referring to ones from the 60's or 70's, right? It's been around for thousands of years, so I don't think of the original strains being ones as recent as last century.

Does Jack Herer count? I recently got some of that, and, while I like the strain almost anywhere I get it, this grow from the brand "Loopy Sanchez" was especially fragrant and had very strong f/x, was perfectly cured, wasn't dry at all, etc. I will be keeping the 1/8 jar to sniff from time to time until the smell fades because I like the scent of the terps that much on this. I think it's only sold by the dispensary by the same name, and I believe they grown it inside a building connected to it, but I'm not sure. I'm definitely getting an oz the next time they have it. With the "40% off the first 3 visits discount", I think it was only $100 including tax for 28g. So it punches way above it's weight for the price (with the discount) compared to other options in Southern California. Tax here is INSANE. Some places charge up to 38% just for taxes.

I have seen a couple places sell some 1/8ths for as much as $95 + another $35 or so in tax. 😲🤮💩
At those prices I'd end up spending almost as much on MJ as I do on the outrageously over priced rent I have to pay to live here.

Anyway, I hope you are eventually able to find or grow what you are looking for!
 
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JBone65

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Does Jack Herer count?
Jack Herer is nice. Don't see it very often these days but it was very good in it's own way. I'm not knocking the good things about today's weed market. Just lamenting the fact that so many folks will never know the flavors that evolved over long periods of time, semi-naturally in various regions to the south. Each was unique and sweet in it's own way. If I had to live with one strain today it would probably be something like blue dream but, I'm more likely to add blue dream into a mix
 
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