What to do with pile of herbs

[Tstat]

This stuff was old mother plants that flowered for a while, but in no way went long enough or made good buds. They did get very crystaly with tons of trichs. Basically, I cut them early and let them dry together with just small leaves. All fan leaves were removed. I have maybe 2-3 ounces.

I have tons of leaf material that I use for bubble bag extraction, but I think I should do something different with this pile as it is better than regular trim.

I don't want to cook with it ( I can't do edibles). I have tried BHO in the past extraction and got nothing out of it. I have used ISO to clean my glass parts and reclaim a bunch of oil. Should I do QWISO on the pile? Anyone have a really good technique or ideas?

TIA!

 

[momofthegoons]

I would think a batch of green dragon might be a good idea. I know you don't like edibles, but the tincture might have merit for you? Rather than using iso, I would opt for some 151 or Everclear.

 

[herbgirl]

^yeah, what mom said!^

 

[Tstat]

Yea, I don't know, tincture seems scarier than butter! I had a couple of really bad experiences with edibles. I need to have control over the dosage through vaporization. I also promised my wife I would not try edibles again, hehe.

 

[momofthegoons]

I've had a few bad experiences with edibles myself. The trick is to take baby steps. That's hard when it's something tasty like brownies. But believe me, you wont have the problem of "evening out the edges" in the brownie pan with tincture. It tastes awful. But a little dab will do ya. It can be mixed into another beverage or medium of some sort. You can also use it to make candy. My experiences with candy have been milder than with cannabutter or oil products. And again, you start with small amounts instead of a big ole fat brownie.

If the alcohol is a turn off, herbgirl has a glycerin option here:

http://fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?pid=124876#p124876

 

[lepstadder]

how did you mess up BHO?

Very strange

You can use ISO

but dont let it soak for to long or it will get dark in color and taste green

Put the iso in the freezer first then soak the herb for no more that 20 seconds

 

[OO]

just vape it! you're not burning it so it just makes more sense to vape it.

i've vaped trim before, works great as long as it's close trim.

 

[AGBeer]

QWISO gets my vote.

Just be sure to freeze your trim/buds and alcohol a few hours before you do the wash. Combine and agitate for NO LONGER than 30 seconds (max) and strain/evap.

You should be able to do at least 2 runs and get some nice oil.

Also - you CAN use denatured alcohol as well as it contains NO water and should evap faster. Just make sure its fully evapped before you scrape/smoke it.

 

[thevapedcrusader]

gday all! If you have bubble bags or a pollinator id do a dry screening first before you do your alcho-wash.. I find trich dust(keif?) is heaps easier to handle and vape than solid or liquid extractions plus gettin to play with piles of powder reminds me of the good old bad old days! Peace and enjoy. J

 

[crawdad]

agree on vaping it, i vape everything...using parts that have less "good material" means i just increase plant material or do another bowl to make up for it.

best of luck, enjoy your pile.

 

[thevapedcrusader]

take a couple of handfuls and git some random acts of kindness goin! One man's trash is another man's treasure!

 

[lepstadder]

No reason to freeze the material for solvent hash

 

[Nuphile]

BHO should get something out of any part of the cannabis plant. It should merely collect the trichomes and leave everything else.

I think BHO is ultimately the best solution for so-so cannabis. QWISO is OK, but you are always going to get more unnecessary plant material in the mix. BHO should contain almost no plant material. I cannot think of a stronger type of hash.

 

[Nycdeisel]

I would do with it whatever you do with your AVB, qwiso sounds like a good idea. As others already warned, dont let it soak for too long, 30 seconds is good enough, and do two separate runs, you will seriously be surprised by how much more you get, and the quality differences.

 

[Tstat]

Yea, I have not done anything with AVB. I just keep collecting it. I do have a ton of oil from soaking glass. I plan to get an Essential Vape H20 next week, so I think oil is the what I want.

I don't know why my BHO experiment didn't work. I used good bud for it, too. The butane costs a lot (compared to ISO), and I didn't even get enough to smoke. Then I bought more butane, but I think it was the wrong kind (cooking?). It smelled really bad, and I threw out whatever I extracted. I guess ISO is the way to go. Are there any dangers that ISO doesn't evaporate all the way? The oil I made from soaking seems to have no oder of ISO at all...

Thanks for all the suggestions!

 

[Nycdeisel]

I have made qwiso at least a few times, once or twice ffrom my grinder, and from my dbv wand, as well as from AVB, results DO vary, but its def not a waste. if you dont let it soak too long, and you strain it well, it will come out pretty good. just try not to start scraping it up until its fully dry, and you're good to go.

 

[AGBeer]

No reason to freeze the material for solvent hash

Ive read that one of the reasons for freezing the ISO as well as the trim is because it helps keep some of the other undesirables (i.e. chlorophyll) in the plant material. This in conjunction with the short wash time.

Good luck bud!

 

[Tstat]

Well I picked up some 91% at Walgreens (2 for $2 this week). I froze my pile, and used less than half for 2 runs of QWISO. The stuff is sitting in bowls right now with a fan on it. I will let this evaporate for several days, just so there is no trace of ISO left behind. I used this method:

http://forum.grasscity.com/harvesti...des-homemade-hash-{step-step-pictorials}.html

I think my Vape H20 should be here today, so I also bought a Ronson torch at Job Lot for $15. If it does arrive today I am going to try some QWISO I made from soaking glass, as well as some bubble. I will let you all know how it works out

 

[rabblerouser]

whoa, do not use shifty butane.
spend the couple minutes to find good butane brands, I use vector, colibri is another popular one.

BHO is not rocket science and I consider much preferable to qwiso.

Can just stick to your bubble to, it'll probably just yield better than crappier trim.

 

[Tstat]

Yea, I am not even going to attempt BHO. I really thought it was a waste, and seemed kinda yucky or something. I don't know. Anyway- I took less than half of the pile and ran it twice as QWISO. I'll see how that goes before I decide what to do with the rest...

 

[OO]

I don't believe you are able to use solvents effectively, and i'm fearful for your safety and the safety of those around you.

BHO isn't a complicated process, and if you're not doing it correctly you're a danger.

but the same technique applies to all solvent extractions, so i'm fearful that you may be putting people in danger.

please exercise the utmost caution if you're going to be using solvents.

 

[AGBeer]

Also keep in mind that acetone or denatured alcohol can be used for your solvent extractions as well.

The only reason I mention this is because they both can be bought in bulk at your local hardware store (and are BOTH commonly used by alot of high volume shatter makers)

 

[OO]

Also keep in mind that acetone or denatured alcohol can be used for your solvent extractions as well.

The only reason I mention this is because they both can be bought in bulk at your local hardware store (and are BOTH commonly used by alot of high volume shatter makers)

don't forget naptha, which is a nonpolar solvent also available in the same area of the same stores.

naptha is similar to butane in that you don't get as much polar material in the extract.

but all of these solvents share some of the same risks, i.e. flammability.

 

[lepstadder]

The reason it is not necessary to freeze the trim before solvent extraction is that due to temperature differential condensation forms and allows water into the mixture

 

[Tstat]

Uh, ok... I am not using butane. I am using 91% ISO. I know how to use ISO. I am not going to use butane. I said from the very beginning that I don't like BHO, and was not going to use it.