What’s everyone’s THCA online vendor?

[General Disaster]

TLR - such a load of bollocks, ya gotta laugh!
(and you can decide whether I mean my post or the hemp laws! )

The difference is not between hemp and cannabis. The difference is between hemp and marijuana. Both are cannabis, but legally the two are different because of how they are defined in the 2018 Farm Bill (mentioned previously) based solely on the THC content. The intent was to allow farmers to grow hemp without the same restrictions as marijuana.

Yes, it doesn't make logical sense but that's because the bill sponsors didn't understand basic cannabis science.

I believe the naming makes no difference (just to split hairs! ). Cannabis is the correct name for the plant, marijuana was a 'nickname' made popular when cannabis laws were first being introduced in the US (I believe) during the 'reefer madness' years (and hence embedded in US culture), but it has no scientific meaning or use, just a nickname. Likewise hemp, although in it's case it comes from the use of cannabis as a resource for cordage and cloth (not to mention oil and other products). In fact hemp has been a critical factor in the advance of civilisation, for instance providing huge military advantage for bowmen who could fire further and faster than those still using strips of bamboo for their bow strings (one of the reasons China was so successful at maintaining and expanding borders in the past).

Anyway, digressing aside, the names simply are used to categorise the legal definitions, the definitions came first and it's the definitions that the names come from rather than visa versa. Why does that matter? It's that the names existed prior but the meanings have been altered by the laws introduced.

What I find even stranger than the perfectly typical incompetence of not understanding the simple pharmacology/chemistry (and presumably being too arrogant to ask the experts), is that there are plenty strains of low THC cannabis (sorry, hemp) that can be grown, as it has for thousands of years, with no need to worry about the presence of a carboxylic acid functional group. China, thousands of years back as mentioned, and more recently the British empire, were built on hemp - in fact in England at times there was a law that forced some farmers to grow it, mainly for sailing ships - cordage and sailcloth. Hemp is one of the most useful plants around and provides far more resources without damaging the land than most other plants can or do. Far better than wood for many things, except for one thing - making more money at our planets expense!
Ah, best pack another bowl and sit back to watch the show!

But bottom line, I have to wonder who it was who was lobbying for this law to come into being, because I'll bet you anything (I'm broke, you won't get much if you win!) that those people knew very well what the difference is! This wasn't some bumbling law maker going off half cocked on their own. That's not how politics works most of the time. But I can promise one thing - it wasn't done with your well being in mind!

 

[zeebudz]

But bottom line, I have to wonder who it was who was lobbying for this law to come into being, because I'll bet you anything (I'm broke, you won't get much if you win!) that those people knew very well what the difference is! This wasn't some bumbling law maker going off half cocked on their own. That's not how politics works most of the time. But I can promise one thing - it wasn't done with your well being in mind!

The 2018 Farm Bill was done to allow industrial hemp growing in the US. Nothing more, nothing less. (It was sponsored by a Texas Republican and passed with bipartisan support.)

 

[General Disaster]

If that was the be all and end all, I have difficulty understanding how it could be so dysfunctional. Some countries simply differentiate between THC(a), and CBD(a), and use the name hemp to label the legal difference for trading.
Maybe you're right and that was the only genuine motive, but if so, it's a scary thought that lawmakers can be so overwhelmingly incompetent with no ulterior motive to explain it. I mean, it's not exactly rocket science.
To be fair, the US takes a different methodology of classifying illegal psychoactive substances and maybe there's something of a cultural difference, but I still fail to see any actual rational to that particular law. I'm only curious as it sounds so mad; does this mean in the US industrial hemp is just as psychoactive as most ordinary cannabis? Or at least can be?

 

[Shit Snacks]

if so, it's a scary thought that lawmakers can be so overwhelmingly incompetent with no ulterior motive to explain it

Unfortunately it is reality, also there actually are a lot of ulterior motives that could explain even further, such as financial interests, like that farm bill was likely driven by hemp lobbyists wanting more money

 

[zeebudz]

To be fair, the US takes a different methodology of classifying illegal psychoactive substances and maybe there's something of a cultural difference, but I still fail to see any actual rational to that particular law. I'm only curious as it sounds so mad; does this mean in the US industrial hemp is just as psychoactive as most ordinary cannabis? Or at least can be?

Industrial hemp hasn't been a thing in the US since the Marijuana Tax Act in 1937. It put a stop to all commercial production with a few exceptions (like WWII) and it essentially ceased in 1957. Meanwhile other countries - especially Canada - started growing and exporting hemp products and farmers in the USA wanted in on the action. The 2018 bill allowed hemp to be grown, defining it only by the THC percentage. So now there are many farms catering to rec & med cannabis consumers producing - for example - high THCA "hemp" which is psychoactive like marijuana. Because it is the same plant.

Unfortunately it is reality, also there actually are a lot of ulterior motives that could explain even further, such as financial interests, like that farm bill was likely driven by hemp lobbyists wanting more money

Of course that was the rationale for the farm bill, to allow hemp farmers to freely grow and sell their product by classifying it in a way to legally distinguish it from marijuana. But the comment implied that the lawmakers knew the difference between THC vs THCA and had some ulterior motive in that respect. All indications are that it was just a fuck up.

 

[General Disaster]

Unfortunately it is reality, also there actually are a lot of ulterior motives that could explain even further, such as financial interests, like that farm bill was likely driven by hemp lobbyists wanting more money

Yeah, that was my suspicion, but then I have a suspicious mind!

Industrial hemp hasn't been a thing in the US since the Marijuana Tax Act in 1937.

I recall reading an article about that, basically working on the premis that cannabis (hemp) was seen as a dangerous challenge to the logging industry because it was a far better source of material than tree's for many of the uses tree's are put to. The newpaper, chemical and logging industries got together to lobby for cannabis to be made illegal (all types) to stifle any possible competition. This spawned the reefer madness propaganda which handily also tried in with racism.
Whether true or not, I can see how it would leave the US in a difficult legal position when people later wanted to legally exploit cannabis farming again, but the idea of that level of dysfunctional law making just boggles me. I'm used to this sort of thing when ulterior motives are in play, but just seems unbelievable this wouldn't be spotted early on in drafting the law (obviously the evidence shows it probably is believable! ).

 

[Finessseee]

Anyone purchase from Lucky Elk recently? Thinking about placing an order for their 420 discount. Any strain recs? Also interested in other vendor recs if y’all have any lmk!

 

[mephisto]

Just landed 6 zips for the price of 4 at Arete. Only cracked 2 so far, but this batch blows away WNC, Preston, Fire Farms, all of whom are great vendors.

 

[RoxyTrey]

I’ve had similar experiences with some older dealers where the flower just didn’t sit right. After switching to more lab-tested options like THCA, I felt a big difference in how it affected me. A friend of mine recommended delta 9 edibles and I gave them a shot – loved the consistency and smooth high. It’s nice not worrying about sketchy sources anymore.

 

[General Disaster]

A friend of mine recommended delta 9 edibles

What do you mean by delta 9?
Normally this would simply refer to the normal common or garden derivative of THC found in standard cannabis flower, and the words "delta 9" simply refers to the position of a double bond on one of the six membered rings. It sounds odd to me to call normal weed "delta 9" so I was just curious as to what you actually mean by it - normal weed I presume, or...?

 

[imbudseeker]

I have bought THCA from a few different places, but lately I have been getting it from CropKings and RocketSeeds. Every time, the service is good and the quality is high. Has anyone else had excellent experiences with them?

 

[Bakin4Life]

My preferred vendor is WNC-CBD, out of NC (d'oh ?) Humidity level is good (my packs don't dry out after a week (or, ever, for that matter; I run 62%, but no refrigeration. My home stays between 70-74F all year, so...)

I've learned (at least there) that if you find strains you like, and a restock is announced... grab your quantities soon after, and you'll get some choice buds (bigger than advertised). Not talking colas or anything, just nice mature buds -- the kind you can break apart and fill a grinder with.

Grandaddy Purp got re-dropped yesterday, and I ordered 2 zips (for $135 total after discounts & free ship). If it's as good as the last batch of GDP I got from them, I'll be set for a year with that strain. Did the same with Durban a year ago; I'm still working on zip #2 (yeah, I know it loses potency after a year, but it's still one of my favorites, since it's as close to a 'pure' sativa as you can probably get, these days. (because everything has been cross-bred / hybridized to hell). With the Durban, I ordered 1 oz, saw what I got, and immediately ordered a 2nd, which was just as good as zip #1. This time, I didn't even split the order with the GDP. Just ordered 2, right off the bat. That's how well I've come to trust what I pick from WNC.

The other thing with these strains that I like / mention above, is that they seem to be released cyclically (like, 1x or at most 2x / yr.)

There are those who say 'keep it local' (legal states). But if I did that, there'd be less money for TEDs, since I live in a state that has really high dispo prices. TBH, outside of true top shelf, the 'mids' level of some of the mail order shops (WNC especially) compares very favorably. And there's no way that my state is going to revoke / close down the dispos here -- great revenue generator for the state, bc 90% of their customers don't even know about THCA vendors (my unofficial guess). Hell, I've yet to meet anyone outside of this forum or Reddit who even know what DHV is. You say 'vape', and they're thinking about those damned pens (with 'who knows what' in them).

I still need to get out to MI for a restock; plan is to take the RV trailer out there for a couple of weeks and make the rounds in the various towns while I do a little camping. But I've had other things come up, and besides, I'm fairly well stocked on flower right now (not good w/ a torch, so except for dry diamonds, concentrates aren't really something I get into. So I won't get out there this summer, but not the end of the world.

Note: I don't work for WNC in any capacity; just a customer. But they've been good for me, and this response adheres 100% to the thread title. I've ordered from probably 5-6 different vendors at this point, and I like the WNC product the best, at this point.