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‘Delco Pooper’ caught, charged after video of incident goes viral [Updated]
“It was a clean poop, I didn’t even have to wipe,” she allegedly told police.
www.delcotimes.com
florduh
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China suggests Covid-19 originated in US in response to Trump allegation
China said the Wuhan lab leak virus theory was ‘extremely unlikely’
Anybody else find it a little weird that America was in the throes of "vape induced lung injury" hysteria in 2019 that mysteriously disappeared around Spring of 2020, never to be heard of again
Also, the "Spanish Flu" of 1919 began in AMERICAN slaughterhouses. Did America ever pay reparations for that
Police find raccoon with meth pipe in driver’s seat during traffic stop
The raccoon is safe and will not be charged.
florduh
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UnitedHealth CEO steps down for ‘personal reasons’
UnitedHealth Group CEO Andrew Witty is stepping down immediately from his role for 'personal reasons,' the company announced Tuesday.
By the way, that UHC CEO who got shot was no angel
UnitedHealth Group under criminal investigation over possible fraud
It was announced Wednesday night that the Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into UnitedHealth Group over possible criminal Medicare fraud
www.themirror.com
Brain-Dead Georgia Woman's Body Now A Fetus Incubator. This Is GRIM.
Adriana Smith is being kept on life support until the fetus is developed enough to survive on its own.
www.wonkette.com
Rodney
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I am furious after watching this. How can this happen????
www.thescottishsun.co.uk
Moment cops pepper-spray and Taser amputee, 92, who died 3 weeks after 'assault'
THIS is the moment two cops pepper-sprayed and Tasered a 92-year-old amputee who died three weeks later in hospital, a court heard. PC Stephen Smith and PC Rachel Comotto are accused of assaulting …
www.thescottishsun.co.uk
florduh
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@mods legally you need to tell me if FC is a CIA front 
www.techspot.com
The CIA used a Star Wars fan site to secretly communicate with spies
This bizarre piece of intel comes courtesy of Ciro Santilli, an independent researcher with a knack for rooting around the dusty corners of the web, who spoke...
www.techspot.com
florduh
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FBI deputy Dan Bongino Tells Fox he 'gave up everything' for Trump
In a shocking confession on television, the Donald Trump-appointed FBI Deputy Director admitted that he's lost everything, including his wife, to serve the Trump administration
Fucking Dan BONGINO is the #2 guy at the FBI?????
florduh
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Lifelong con artist Elon Musk did so many drugs his bladder exploded
www.rollingstone.com
Elon Used So Much Ketamine He Couldn't Pee Right: Report
Elon Musk's frequent use of ketamine during the 2024 campaign caused him to experience bladder problems, according to The New York Times.
www.rollingstone.com
General Disaster
Schrödinger's rat!
Er, no? And the 68 who died may also agree if they could.Anybody else find it a little weird that America was in the throes of "vape induced lung injury" hysteria in 2019 that mysteriously disappeared around Spring of 2020, never to be heard of again
The E-cigarette or Vaping Product Use–Associated Lung Injury Epidemic: Pathogenesis, Management, and Future Directions: An Official American Thoracic Society Workshop Report - PMC
E-cigarette or vaping product use–associated lung injury (EVALI) is a severe pulmonary illness associated with the use of e-cigarettes or vaping products that was officially identified and named in 2019. This American Thoracic Society workshop was ...
florduh
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Er, no? And the 68 who died may also agree if they could.
The E-cigarette or Vaping Product Use–Associated Lung Injury Epidemic: Pathogenesis, Management, and Future Directions: An Official American Thoracic Society Workshop Report - PMC
E-cigarette or vaping product use–associated lung injury (EVALI) is a severe pulmonary illness associated with the use of e-cigarettes or vaping products that was officially identified and named in 2019. This American Thoracic Society workshop was ...pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
You don't find it a little weird there was a novel respiratory disease discovered in 2019 AND 2020? Back to back years? Nearly identical symptoms? The 2019 respiratory disease "disappeared" like 2 weeks before the United States started recording cases from the 2020 novel respiratory disease (COVID)? Come on, man. This smells like malarkey!
And thank you for posting that study. I forgot that 1 in 5 "Vape Disease" patients never used cannabis vapes. Only nicotine e-cigs. Ok, well there goes the "Vitamin A Acetate" theory! No one was putting Vitamin A in e-cigs.
Differentiating EVALI from COVID-19 on Imaging Proves Challenging
Uncover insights on diagnosing EVALI, its symptoms, imaging findings, and key clinical considerations in this comprehensive RSNA article.
Yeah, it sure seems weird that "Vape Lung Disease" and COVID-19 have almost identical symptoms and are impossible to differentiate using diagnostics! What a weird coincidence!
Just a little food for thought. Given that the previous major global pandemic, the Spanish Flu, began in Kansas.... maybe Americans should be cautious before laying blame for COVID at China's feet
General Disaster
Schrödinger's rat!
Not clear what you're saying - "a novel respiratory disease" - that sounds like you're talking about one condition although unnamed (I presume you refer to the health issues related to the addition of vitamin e acetate for which a strong correlation between that and serious respiratory illness in heavy vape users is well established - yes?). Are you saying there's two different conditions? Or that vitamin e acetate is not the cause? If so can you say what they are rather than being so non-specific? It leaves nothing to discuss really, unless you want only to announce it and not discuss it's provenance? (please say as I won't waste time discussing if you've no desire to examine it and are just putting it out there with no explanation).
Did you actually read that paper I linked to? Being a fact-checked peer reviewed scientific paper from one of the more trusted sources, are you saying it's wrong? If so, in what way(s)? And what's the evidence you're using to make that argument - a link would be great?
Or are you just saying your gut feels suspicious so there's a case for, what? some sort of conspiracy? Again you're not being very clear and precise about this.
If you read up you'll also find it absolutely didn't just 'disappear'! What's the mystery? Don't see it at all.
Personally, I think the really weird thing is how there are many real and damaging conspiracies out there, and yet most people only want to look for the unreal one's with no empirical evidence.
florduh
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Not clear what you're saying - "a novel respiratory disease" - that sounds like you're talking about one condition although unnamed (I presume you refer to the health issues related to the addition of vitamin e acetate for which a strong correlation between that and serious respiratory illness in heavy vape users is well established - yes?). Are you saying there's two different conditions? Or that vitamin e acetate is not the cause? If so can you say what they are rather than being so non-specific? It leaves nothing to discuss really, unless you want only to announce it and not discuss it's provenance? (please say as I won't waste time discussing if you've no desire to examine it and are just putting it out there with no explanation).
Did you actually read that paper I linked to? Being a fact-checked peer reviewed scientific paper from one of the more trusted sources, are you saying it's wrong? If so, in what way(s)? And what's the evidence you're using to make that argument - a link would be great?
Or are you just saying your gut feels suspicious so there's a case for, what? some sort of conspiracy? Again you're not being very clear and precise about this.
If you read up you'll also find it absolutely didn't just 'disappear'! What's the mystery? Don't see it at all.
Personally, I think the really weird thing is how there are many real and damaging conspiracies out there, and yet most people only want to look for the unreal one's with no empirical evidence.
Well let me make it very clear: I'm saying COVID 19 was probably in America prior to 2020. That’s it.
Vitamin Acetate was never a plausible explanation for EVALI because, like the study you posted stated, in at least 1 in 5 “vape injury” cases, the patient never used cannabis oil vapes. No nicotine e-juice maker was spiking their shit with Vitamin A. No economic reason to.
Flotsam
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if i am correct, weren't the impacts due to these being "black market" carts that were tainted or maybe heavy handed with the Vitamin E? or did i misstate that?Not clear what you're saying - "a novel respiratory disease" - that sounds like you're talking about one condition although unnamed (I presume you refer to the health issues related to the addition of vitamin e acetate for which a strong correlation between that and serious respiratory illness in heavy vape users is well established - yes?). Are you saying there's two different conditions? Or that vitamin e acetate is not the cause? If so can you say what they are rather than being so non-specific? It leaves nothing to discuss really, unless you want only to announce it and not discuss it's provenance? (please say as I won't waste time discussing if you've no desire to examine it and are just putting it out there with no explanation).
Did you actually read that paper I linked to? Being a fact-checked peer reviewed scientific paper from one of the more trusted sources, are you saying it's wrong? If so, in what way(s)? And what's the evidence you're using to make that argument - a link would be great?
Or are you just saying your gut feels suspicious so there's a case for, what? some sort of conspiracy? Again you're not being very clear and precise about this.
If you read up you'll also find it absolutely didn't just 'disappear'! What's the mystery? Don't see it at all.
Personally, I think the really weird thing is how there are many real and damaging conspiracies out there, and yet most people only want to look for the unreal one's with no empirical evidence.
Of course to the general public , vaping is VAPING so there is NO distinction in the public's mind about tobacco vaping, e-cigs, cannabis cartridges or cannabis itself (what we should exclusively be calling DHV. In a number of cases the product can be somewhat easy to adulterate.
I don't know that there is a long term health study on cannabis DHV.
I thought that point was quite clear that there was a strong linkage to the 1918 "Spanish flu". So its like this has existed in some variant. Maybe existed within other animal species only to make the jump to a human host at some point.
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The most obvious thing going on here is that there are people who political point about this and claim that COVID-19 was SOLELY a product of Chinese labs. They will try and use this as a reason to claim some other point they want to make.
florduh
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That makes sense to me.
A lot of Right Wingers were banging the war drum, saying we need to hold China accountable for inflicting COVID upon the world. Well. I don't think we have enough evidence yet to definitively say where COVID originated.
I brought up the Spanish Flu because it didn't originate in Spain. It originated in disgusting Kansas slaughterhouses. Should've been called "the American Flu of 1918". Maybe Americans should be a little more cautious about pointing fingers when it comes to global pandemics.
General Disaster
Schrödinger's rat!
So what you're really saying is for some weird reason that doesn't seem to have any point, some people with covid were deliberately diagnosed with something that didn't exist, which of course would have had to have started planning long before covid ever was reported, and little was known about it, including it's dangers, but someone somewhere who had something to do with it being artificially inserted into the population and was covering it up? You're not yet stating outright what you're trying to say, is that what you mean? I hope not because it sounds ridiculous that a) anyone would go to such extremes with a plan that was pretty much impossible to implement and even harder to hide. Or do you mean something else?
A whole 1 in 5! Wow! So what, ignore the other 80%? Also, without a study to examine the actual contents of non-cannabis vapes, again the comments have little value. You imply vit e acetate is never used in non-cannabis vapes - what's the source for this? If you ain't got one, then how do you know this?
Show some data for your claims. Either you've got this from somewhere that pushes plain BS, or you've invented it yourself, or there's material somewhere you're sourcing this from that could have some basis and may not. Link to the material and then I'll be able to tell what the real game is. Avoid that and any explanation, and then I'll know what your game is!
Fairy stories are 10 a penny. Facts need evidence. If you have some, show it, if you don't, well then you're just talking.
Exactly, but @florduh seems to feel it's some conspiracy and that vit e acetate has nothing to do with it but seems reluctant to share detail of even how this could be done (the mechanics are mind boggling on how many people would have to be involved and what would have to be done, not to mention the nature of those people).
If it were me weaponising viruses (which ain't a conspiracy theory, this goes on all the time all over the world) and I had a little leak of them so to speak, I'd just murder the whole team and anyone connected directly - job done, no-one would blab. But trying to invent an illness and publish it in a globally peer reviewed medical journal is just ridiculous - it would generate so much suspicion at the very least it'd be most unlikely to work.
florduh
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I simply mean that it's very possible most EVALI cases were misdiagnosed COVID. No grand conspiracy. Not sure why you're so bent out of shape.
Again, the symptoms of EVALI are nearly identical to COVID.
The radiology results from EVALI cases look nearly identical to COVID.
Sure seems like an odd coincidence!
Well a theory that only applies 80% of the time is pretty shitty, no? Like, a flu virus causes 100% of confirmed flu cases.
Because Vitamin E acetate was a thickener used to trick cannabis vape buyers into believing the THC% of the cartridge was higher. There is no reason for a nicotine e-juice maker to cut their juice with Vitamin E. Propylene Glycol and Glycerin (standard E-juice bases) are cheaper and better tasting.
In short, no e-juice maker used Vitamin E as an additive because there's no reason to. And many reasons NOT to.
LOL. Now this is insane conspiracy talk. I simply suggested doctors misdiagnosed diseases with identical symptoms and lab work.
At the very least, it looks like EVALI and COVID overlapped by several months. I'm simply wondering if maybe that overlap was longer.
Study shows that COVID-19 was present in five U.S. states in December 2019, even before the first reported case in China
In a recent study, a group of researchers aimed to identify exactly how early SARS-CoV-2 was circulating throughout the United States.
It would be nice to get to the bottom of this. The EVALI panic caused permanent damage to the vape industry. Especially in the Nicotine vape space.
Rodney
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RESULT and I TOLD YOU GUYS!!!
www.theguardian.com
www.thetimes.com
www.forbes.com
Elon Musk allegedly took large amounts of drugs including ketamine while advising Trump – report
Doge head was at times dosing himself daily, along with ecstasy and psychedelic mushroom use, according to NYT
www.theguardian.com
Elon Musk ‘took so much ketamine campaigning it damaged his bladder’
The billionaire is also alleged to have used ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms — and sources suggest it could have affected his work at Doge
Musk Reportedly Used Ketamine, Ecstasy And Travelled With Pills As He Became Close To Trump
Musk announced Wednesday he was exiting his role in the Trump administration.
www.forbes.com
General Disaster
Schrödinger's rat!
Because you've been making obscure unexplained conspiracy theory type statements about health care issues that effect the lives of many people, so not a joke to my view and playing games with ambiguous statements while failing to provide sources for fact checking even when questioned is irresponsible imho.
So nothing much y'know? You carry on.
florduh
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Guess I wasn't the first person to notice this.
The original article I posted was about Americans suing the Chinese Government for damages over COVID. Not sure why China would be liable if COVID was already in America before the first recorded case in China. And if some of these "vaping disease" patients were actually misdiagnosed COVID, long before.
Is SARS-CoV-2 the causative agent of EVALI cases prior to the Covid-19 pandemic?
The original article I posted was about Americans suing the Chinese Government for damages over COVID. Not sure why China would be liable if COVID was already in America before the first recorded case in China. And if some of these "vaping disease" patients were actually misdiagnosed COVID, long before.
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General Disaster
Schrödinger's rat!
Ok, I have your measure now. You can't even stick with your own messages up here!
You carry on with your childish games, you obviously think your amusement is more important than much more serious stuff like the effect on peoples real lives. Have fun playing with yourself!
You carry on with your childish games, you obviously think your amusement is more important than much more serious stuff like the effect on peoples real lives. Have fun playing with yourself!
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vapviking
Old & In the Way
Dude, have you seen the mess over on the TicTac? I think you've got your work cut out for you...
More than half of top 100 mental health TikToks contain misinformation, study finds
Guardian investigation reveals promotion of dubious advice, questionable supplements and quick-fix healing methods
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