Weed vs hash vs bho for coconut oil capsules

hellbent

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So I want to start making coconut oil infusions again. I used to make them with weed and was wondering if I would get better potency by using hash or oil. I think it would end up costing about the same, as it seems that prices are generally relative to THC content, at least where I am.

Does one give a better result than the other? I am thinking that flowers might contain a bigger selection of cannabinoid and terpenes. Can I make a much more potent oil using shatter?


I haven't tried calculating THC dosage before but I am shooting for 250mg thc that I can fit into a gel cap.
 
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sickmanfraud

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What you want is described in depth in a Thread over at GrassCity. https://forum.grasscity.com/threads/another-tincture-thread-try-it-youll-like-it.1102315/

Read the first 5-10 pages to understand the basic technique then the most recent 5-10 pages so you don't ask questions from 2 days ago. Then find something in the index that interests you.

You can ask questions and get real answers not speculation. For example, Psychedelicsam the OP from the thread tested and retested and determined that 240F for 40 Minutes is optimum decarb.

There are tincture recipes GD, Green/gold dragon and sam has a recipe for something he calls dragon oil which is a more bioavailable form of RSO. The Dragon oil is at a strength of 1 gram of cannabis to 1 ml of coconut oil.
 
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So I want to start making coconut oil infusions again. I used to make them with weed and was wondering if I would get better potency by using hash or oil. I think it would end up costing about the same, as it seems that prices are generally relative to THC content, at least where I am.

Does one give a better result than the other? I am thinking that flowers might contain a bigger selection of cannabinoid and terpenes. Can I make a much more potent oil using shatter?


I haven't tried calculating THC dosage before but I am shooting for 250mg thc that I can fit into a gel cap.

We used to make herb infused coconut oil, but now only make rso diffused in coconut oil with lecithin added. (I may switch to using rosin though). The main reason we switched was due to widely differing results with the infused oil. Using rso, hash oil, bho and so on makes measuring much more presice and predictable.

Some concentrates may need to be decarboliized, so take that into consideration.

Adding lecithin makes the concentrate much more available. It's a emulsifier, and so it makes large sticky molecules of concentrate into smaller pieces easier to pass through intestinal walls for a more efficent uptake. We like organic powdered soy lecithin that we get off amazon. It really does make a noticeable difference.

I use a glass measuring cup on a coffee warmer and use gentle heat to combine the mix. When the lecithin melts and the hash oil is completely suspended and blended in solution, it's ready to fill caps with.

We use (give or take) 1.5-3 grams rso to one fluid ounce of coconut oil, and one half tsp of powered lecithin. This will obviously differ by the concentrate and what the maker wants. This will make roughly 30-33 size 00 gell caps. You can estimate the dose by the % of cannabinoids ( if known) divided by the number of caps. For me, more important is to have a base line you can come back to rather than relying on estimated numbers.

Before we cap all the capsules we sample single caps to see if adjustments are nessasary. And we fill caps with pipettes by hand.

We use a 50/50 mix of high cdb/ high thc concentrates. Using this mix allows us to use higher amounts of thc for a maximum medical affect and slightly less of a recreational type high. Although you definately get high. But 3 grams of high thc oil in 1 fluid oz of coconut, and 1/2 tsp of lecithin is a very high dose for most users or patients. But it's more manageable with the cbd included. Plus of course it's more complete medically speaking.

I have several patients using these with reported success. And it's great to know how well this herb helps people. In our case my wife and I take a cap nightly, because it also helps with getting a good nights sleep. But we also make it for epilepsy, ulcerative colitis, breast cancer and chronic pain.

Along these lines, we make a similar concoction for our elderly dogs. We use 1 gram of a 50/50 mix, in 1 fluid oz hemp oil and 1/2 tsp lecithin. We keep it in an eye dropper bottle and each small dog gets about 3 drops at meal time.

And I make a hemp oil infusion of just high thc oil and lecithin and use an eye dropper for under the tongue or on food. Hope all this helps......
 
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Bouldorado

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If you can buy it premade, BHO will be the easiest and most consistent method for making capsules.

BHO is typically 70-80%, so for a capsule w/ 250mg THC you would need roughly 1/3 of a gram of BHO.

I'd say it's practically impossible to reach that same concentration with flower.
 

sickmanfraud

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If you can buy it premade, BHO will be the easiest and most consistent method for making capsules.

BHO is typically 70-80%, so for a capsule w/ 250mg THC you would need roughly 1/3 of a gram of BHO.

I'd say it's practically impossible to reach that same concentration with flower.

Something here is not computing in my head. If the goal is 30 caps at 250 mg THC according to your figures that would require 10 grams of BHO??

250mg of THC represents 1 gram of cannabis with 25% THC. Of course no one can extract 100% of the THC so you would need cannabis with 30% THC content or more to net 250 mg from 1 gram of flowers.
 
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Something here is not computing in my head. If the goal is 30 caps at 250 mg THC according to your figures that would require 10 grams of BHO??

250mg of THC represents 1 gram of cannabis with 25% THC. Of course no one can extract 100% of the THC so you would need cannabis with 30% THC content or more to net 250 mg from 1 gram of flowers.

30*250mg = 7500 mg THC. So yeah ~10g is correct. 250mg capsules are crazy strong though.

From your example, 75% BHO is 3x as potent as flower so you only need 1/3 of the material. 1g of BHO has 750mg of THC.
 
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shredder

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30*250mg = 7500 mg THC. So yeah ~10g is correct. 250mg capsules are crazy strong though.

From your example, 75% BHO is 3x as potent as flower so you only need 1/3 of the material. 1g of BHO has 750mg of THC.

I agree, way too strong. By at least a factor of three.

Our strongest caps have 1/10 of a gram of rso, and that is only 80-85% total cannabinoids. And these caps are much too strong for an average user.
 
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